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    marjenes@OPTUSNET.COM.AU Subject: Re: FW: Persistence of coronaviruses on inanimate surfaces and its inactivation with biocidal agents In-Reply-To:

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    Dear Scott,

    When advising eye specialists in their office based practice, I ask them to
    firstly review what items are labelled single use (first surprise) and for
    any reusable items to then check the manufacturers’ instructions for
    reprocessing – that deals with most of my issues but comes as a shock to
    them. I have checked the cost of disposables where available and this is
    minimal and of course no excuse to achieving the required standard. You
    mention other equipment – not only is the required wet contact time ever
    adequate (not to mention no cleaning), there are contraindications to using
    alcohol on various items because of the damage it may cause to contact
    cement etc.

    I’d like to know what standard your clients are following that permits an
    alcohol wipe of a single use item or insufficient device decontamination of
    a reusable piece of equipment? As you point out, where they are making
    contact with the surface of the eye, such contact is not the same as contact
    with intact skin and any reprocessing is to be done to a standard. Corona
    virus and adeno virus aside, we know that many other respiratory viruses e.g
    influenza can access via the eyes/tear ducts.

    I am sure that Terry MacAuley will have more to say on this as it’s a topic
    we have corresponded on regarding the disposables.

    Regards,

    Margaret Jennings
    Marjen Education Services

    website. http://www.marjenes.com.au
    email. marjenes@optusnet.com.au

    mob. 0404 088 754

    Pabst
    inanimate surfaces and its inactivation with biocidal agents

    Hi Glenys and all,

    (I declare my conflict of interest as a medical device disinfectant
    supplier), however, my point is NON COMMERCIAL IN NATURE.

    Re the current Corona Virus situation: I have noticed something concerning
    during my interactions with Public Hospital Ophthalmic and
    Optometry/Orthoptic departments and Private Practices/Optometry sites- and
    that is overwhelming the use of Isopropyl Alcohol Wipes as a supposed
    “disinfectant” for Medical devices contacting the eye or secretions of the
    eye.

    The concern is two fold and point 2 relates to Corona Virus.

    1.Isopropyl Alcohol requires a wet contact time of 5 minutes to be
    Bactericidal, but the alcohol has a flash point/drying time of approx. 40
    Seconds so the bactericidal effect not completed
    2.Isopropyl Alcohol Wipes are NOT VIRUCIDAL, with any length of
    contact time.

    I have had many discussions with Hospitals regarding the selection of a
    disinfectant that is effective against ADENOVIRUS (as this is a leading
    cause of Kerato-Conjunctivitis) and as such requires a disinfectant that is
    at least Viricidal.

    Now though, the reports and evidence are suggesting/confirming that Corona
    Virus is transmissible via the mucosa of the eye as well as via the
    secretions, just as SARS was identified as transmissible in this way during
    that outbreak event. The recommendations are for full PPE including Eye
    protection for carers in the outbreak zone. And whilst this is prudent for
    protection of healthcare workers, it does not address the reprocessing of
    the Ophthalmic Medical Devices which contact the eye during
    Ophthalmic/Orthoptic diagnostic and therapeutic procedures.

    I believe this is currently an entirely overlooked pathway of Virus
    transmission, and it concerns me greatly that two peak organisations here in
    Australia- Optometry Australia and RANZCO (college of Ophthalmology)
    actively promote the use of Isopropyl Alcohol for disinfection, (and
    5,000ppm of Sodium Hyper-Chlorite) in direct conflict with the requirements
    of ASNZ 4187.

    Just by way of reminder, the requirement under the ASNZ 4187 (as a MINIMUM)
    is for HIGH LEVEL DISINFECTION of Medical Devices used in contact with
    broken skin and Mucosal surfaces.

    The product selected MUST be: a TGA approved, INSTRUMENT GRADE, HIGH LEVEL
    DISINFECTANT (Class 2B)- not a listed or registered disinfectant, also known
    as an OTG (other therapeutic good)- products with this level of registration
    are ONLY approved for use as SURFACE disinfectants, not device
    disinfectants.

    I am interested in the opinion of others on this forum as to 1. the risk and
    2. the desire to close that GAP by insisting only High Leve, Instrument
    Grade disinfectants be used in this space (with the required appropriate
    tracking/auditing capability), as required by ASNZ 4187.

    Yours Sincerely

    Scott

    Scott Pabst
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    Tristel Australia

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    > On Behalf Of Glenys Harrington
    inanimate surfaces and its inactivation with biocidal agents

    Dear All,

    This publication (in press yesterday) notes the following in the summary:

    *”The analysis of 22 studies reveals that human coronaviruses such as
    Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) coronavirus, Middle East
    Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) coronavirus or endemic human coronaviruses
    (HCoV) can persist on inanimate surfaces like metal, glass or plastic for up
    to 9 days, but can be efficiently inactivated by surface disinfection
    procedures with 62-71% ethanol, 0.5% hydrogen peroxide or 0.1% sodium
    hypochlorite within 1 minute”.

    Kampf G, et al. Persistence of coronaviruses on inanimate surfaces and its
    inactivation with biocidal agents, Journal of Hospital Infection, https://
    doi.org/10.1016/j.jhin.2020.01.022.

    May be of interest/use.

    Regards

    Glenys

    Glenys Harrington

    Consultant

    Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)

    P.O. Box 6385

    Melbourne

    Australia, 3004

    M: +61 404816434

    E: infexion@ozemail.com.au

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