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    Morning All, Tina muller, CNC, operating theatres & CSD Mackay Base Hospital.
    The Final copy of the 2019 AS/NZS 4187 is available free to down load.
    Scan your incoming emails.

    Regards,
    TIna

    Dear All,
    Does anyone know what is happening with AS/NZS 4187 Draft Amendment 2017 – Water Quality
    * They closed for comment December 2017 and I have not seen the final document released?
    Regards

    Glenys

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    in reply to: infection control in OT #75170
    Tina Muller
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    Morning,
    Here is the link to the QLD health Policy pertaining to Fit Testing / Checking.
    https://www.health.qld.gov.au/clinical-practice/guidelines-procedures/diseases-infection/infection-prevention/transmission-precautions/p2n95-mask

    I hope this helps.

    Regards,
    Tina
    Tina Muller
    CNC, Operating Theatre & CSD
    Mackay Base Hospital
    MHHS.
    Email: tina.muller@health.qld.gov.au
    Ph: 07 4885 5387

    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Chris Pollard
    Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2019 7:52 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: infection control in OT

    Hi All,

    I believe there are quantitative processes for validation of fit testing attached recent Government (May 2018) changes showing this within CS Health circles.

    Kind regards

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of Juraja, Marija (Health)
    Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019 3:59 PM
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    Subject: Re: infection control in OT

    Hi Helen,

    Our clinical worker health do a once off fit test and also competency assessment for donning and doffing of PPE.
    Fit testing is only repeated if the person has had significant weight gain/loss, facial surgery or major dental work.
    These tools might help you as they are similar to what our ICLN undertake.

    Kind Regards

    Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
    Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Helen Roberts
    Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019 11:13 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] infection control in OT

    Morning Marija,
    I am only new to infection control and it is such a big learning curve.
    This looks very interesting. I will have a good read.
    Something that I might be able too implement here.
    Really appreciate everyone valuable input.

    Just wondering do you still fit test all staff, and if so do you have a competencies that you use?

    Kind regards,
    Helen

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of Juraja, Marija (Health)
    Sent: Friday, 15 February 2019 4:08 PM
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    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] infection control in OT

    Hi Helen,

    We follow the SA Health Cleaning Standard and we clean the area with a single step product (detergent/disinfectant solution) and the same in disposable wipes.
    This just removes the guess work out of what to use.

    Kind Regards

    Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
    Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Helen Roberts
    Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2019 9:22 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] infection control in OT

    Morning Brain trust,

    I was looking for some advice in regards to infection control in theater.
    I was wondering in anyone can tell me how they clean the operating theater after MRSA, VRE, ESBL.
    Recently a staff member said that we are over doing the cleaning in regards to what I do and we only need to use soap and water.
    I give them 2 options of how to clean with the products, which I cant mention on here I believe.

    I was just wondering what is a good cleaning regime for all the codes?

    Any information would be helpful,
    Kind regards
    Helen

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    in reply to: CVAD access and flushing #75117
    Tina Muller
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    Hi Claire,
    We use pre-filled syringes.
    Convenience, cost effective.

    Regards,
    Tina

    Tina Muller
    CNC, Theatre & CSD
    Mackay Base Hospital
    MHHS

    Sat
    Dear Claire – the environment for drawing up a syringe for later use i.e. some hours later would need to be the standard used when making pharmaceuticals (a clean room) i.e the same conditions that the prefilled commercially avail syringes come in. As this is not possible in the first scenario you mention, I would not be prefilling. In terms of evidence – a trial to see whether the two are equal in preventing infection would be unethical but I would suggest there would be evidence that this method in an uncontrolled environment allows for the entry to and growth of, bacteria in the syringe. In the delay of some hours and with an uncontrolled temperature, some bacteria may multiply each half hour.

    Regards,

    Margaret Jennings
    Marjen Education Services

    website. http://www.marjenes.com.au
    email. marjenes@optusnet.com.au

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    Hi Clare,

    Yes, I agree with Michael.
    We use the pre-filled syringes too.

    Cheers
    Liz

    Liz Reading

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    Lower Mid North Coast Sector, HNELHD
    C/o Manning Base Hospital, 26 York Street, TAREE, NSW, 2430
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    Hi Clare

    My personal opinion is that this would be an ideal situation for the use of commercial, prefilled saline flush syringes. Would certainly take the uncertainty out of preparing the flush syringes in the home.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Good morning,
    May I address the brains trust to ask – when accessing CVAD’s in the home environment some staff draw up their flushes in the hospital clinic using no touch technique. They then wrap and carry the flushes to the home to flush and then attach IV A/B’s. Sometimes the drawing up is some hours prior to administration.

    Others take sterile equipment with them ( dressing pack, sterile syringes needles and gloves) and draw up in the home immediately prior to flushing and attaching…
    I can’t find any evidence to tell me if having the Normal Saline sit in the syringe during transport in a car for some hours prior to administration is unsafe i.e. how long is too long for the flush to sit prior to administration…?

    My gut tells me that drawing up as close as possible to administration is ideal – however no evidence available to change clinical practice.

    Any help gratefully appreciated

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    in reply to: Re: Online Infection Control Learning Packages #75028
    Tina Muller
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    Morning,
    Thank-you for this link.
    Already signed up.

    Regards,
    Tina

    Tina Muller
    Clinical Nurse Consultant / Perioperative & CSD.
    Mackay Hospital and Health Service
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    Thanks everyone for the links to the 10 modules from ACSQHC.

    Can I just express an opinion here? The original message was looking for an online module of ALL STAFF to complete at orientation. Whilst the 10 modules from the ACSQHC are absolutely fantastic, I found they were overkill for most staff, and I only require my Infection Control Link Nurses to do these modules. All other staff do an annual shorter infection control module similar to the ACSQHC module on the HHA website (separate modules for clinical and non-clinical staff).

    Just my opinion, anyway.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Currently all new employees complete written infection control education packages. Does anyone know of any online learning modules (other than the Hand Hygiene Australia module) that I can direct staff to complete that is free for our hospital to utilise and perhaps offers a certificate of completion afterwards as proof of compliance? We are trying to move from paper to online learning where possible.

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    Morning Mandy,

    We have this built into our Service Agreement.
    The steriliser Company conduct the validations ,at no out of packet expense.

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    Hi Mandy
    We use an independent Biomedical service to complete all our annual validations for our reprocessing equipment. Sterilizers, Instrument washers, drying cabinet, ultrasonic washer and heat sealer.
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    Hello brains trust,

    I am seeking information about what different organisations do for the performance qualification (PQ) aspect of the annual validation for the reprocessing of reusable medical devices. The standards mention that this can be performed by “suitably trained in-house personnel or a suitably experienced and qualified external contractor.”

    So the question is do you do this yourself in house? Or do you contract out?

    If you do this in house – would be prepared to share how you report this?

    If you contract out – can you share details of the contractor offline please?

    I am curious about a contracted service, historically this seems to have been part of the service provided by the equipment supplier. I wonder if this is a conflict of interest? I have also noted that the reports generated by the supplier tend to only focus on the equipment supplied and not on the ‘whole of RMD process’ which is going to be the requirement.

    Any assistance is greatly appreciated and information received will be treated confidentially and with respect.

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    Morning,

    Just took a quite skip through google.
    If you Google SHEA – The Society for Healthcare Epidemiology of America.
    Reviewing articles – prevention is the focus

    From:

    * clarify need for IDC
    * length of time the IDC is in situ
    * encourage oral fluids
    * Cranberry juice seems to be beneficial ( used in aged care facilities for non-catheterised patient)
    * encourage mobility / frequent toileting vs IDC / retrain bladder – don’t hold on – go
    * Blueberries / spinach / kale / beans / broccoli / Yogurt / red peppers / cauliflower / garlic
    * lots of water or herbal teas

    I hope this helps.

    Wishing everyone at ACIPC a Wonderful Christmas with their families & a Great New Year!

    Regards,
    TIna

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    > Merry Christmas everyone,

    > I am wondering for some advice in regards of how other hospitals make
    > awareness of catheter acquired UTI for ward nurses (I.e. education, posters, PowerPoints, guidelines etc) Or has anyone done a program/ research to reduce hospital acquired UTI and has it been successful with retaining the evidence based practice with ward staff?

    > I have an interest in reducing
    > hospital acquired UTI and would love to hear what is out there.

    > Kind Regards,

    > Yeng To
    > RN at QEII Hospital Brisbane
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    Afternoon,

    Thank-you for this.
    I can relate to the scenarios identified in the article.
    The non HH hands all over the Ana Med Trolley is one reason we take the trolley out of the MRO OT
    As we have had staff come behind an MRO case and totally decanted all the meds form the trolley into the sharps

    I am trying to find a succinct , guideline that fits all scenarios, while maintaining to focus on the patient.

    Regards,
    Tina

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Cathryn Murphy
    Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:17 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: Reviewing management of MRO’s in perioperative unit.

    Tina

    By way of Xmas miracle SHEA just released an IC in anaesthesia guideline. It can be freely accessed and may add info for you and others. You can access it here SHEA, in collaboration with anesthesia societies, released an expert guidance with recommendations to improve infection prevention in operating room anesthesia services. The guidance, published in Infection Control & Healthcare Epidemiology, makes recommendations in the areas of hand hygiene, environmental disinfection, and continuous improvement. The full text is available, without a login at https://doi.org/10.1017/ice.2018.303.

    Regards

    Cath
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of Tina Muller
    Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:00
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    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Reviewing management of MRO’s in perioperative unit.

    Morning,

    Thank-you to everyone who responded with sound advice.
    Im sure I will be contacting you again in the near future when fine tuning my policy.

    Regards,
    Tina

    Tina Muller
    Clinical Nurse Consultant / Perioperative & CSD.
    Mackay Hospital and Health Service
    P: 07 4885 5387
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Robinson, Nikki
    Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 8:12 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: Reviewing management of MRO’s in perioperative unit.

    Hi Tina,
    Our approach is to treat all patients the same. We do not screen all patients so would have many unknown colonised patients. By adopting a one approach policy there is no confusion as per Michael & Joanna comments below.
    We recover all patients in recovery. The only time we would recover a patient in theatre would be if they were on droplet precautions (only happened once with a norovirus patient with a # NOF)
    We dont do bronchoscopies so dont have airborne precautions to contend with in theatre / endoscopy unit.
    Thanks
    Nikki

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Michael Wishart
    Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 7:23 AM
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    Hi Tina

    Our approach is similar to that described by Joanna Harris. I did a presentation to some per-operative nurses here about this. The key was investigating current practices between patients and plugging the holes (ie who cleans what make sure everyone knows their role).

    I think you need to work out what will work in your setting, though. I do not believe a one-size-fits-all approach will work.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of The Harrises
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    Hello Tina, and welcome.
    The important thing is to thoroughly look at the risks associated with MROs in theatre balanced with the risks associated with managing patients known to be colonised. Also recognise that you do not probably know the MRO colonisation status in real time for every single patient.
    Here in the Illawarra Shoalhaven in NSW we have adopted a much more horizontal approach to our infection prevention and control policies. Essentially this can be described as doing the right thing for everyone. By doing this we make things simpler for staff, prevent discriminatory practices for those patients with a history of MRO colonisation, and avoid problems such as the ones you have described with wasted theatre time and equipment issues.
    I would be very happy to discuss off line, and share policies etc. if you are interested.

    JoannaHarris
    Nurse Manager, Infection Management and Control Service,
    Illawarra Shoalhaven LHD, NSW.
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    On 7 Dec 2018, at 15:09, Tina Muller <Tina.Muller@HEALTH.QLD.GOV.AU> wrote:
    Afternoon,

    Im a new member, and very excited to be able to network with such a diverse body of knowledge.

    Question?
    We are currently reviewing our management of MROs within the perioperative Unit.
    Specifically focusing on decanting theatres prior to admitting the patient into theatre.
    This includes the anaesthetic drugs trolley which is kept close at hand outside the door.
    Yes, we allocate an outside runner.

    There are two components that we are keen to focus on.

    1. Decanting the Theatre we are discussing the Non-Contact vs Contact Zone
    2. Recovering of patient in the theatre ( VRE / ESBL/CRE ) vs PACU (MRSA)

    These are the core issue that cause grief among the staff.
    Ana Folk- not ready access to emergent equipment if required.
    Loss of theatre time in recovering patient in Theatre.

    As you are aware, this implicates theatre staff and activity time.
    This is addressed with allocating the MRO patients to the end of the elective lists
    If we have a spare theatre – we will take the MRO patients there, so there is minimal lost time in their home theatre( while someone else cleans up or recovers the patient)
    No so easy to negotiate if this is an emerg patient.

    Earlier this year, I emailed across QHealth via SWAPNET, and thank-you to all who responded.
    This has given us much to consider, drawing us to the Contact vs Non-Contact area within the actual theatre.

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    Before I totally re-write our Policy reflecting the changes, I would like the opinion of the ACIPC Network.
    I thank-you for your time and consideration in this matter.

    Regards,
    Tina

    Tina Muller
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    Mackay Hospital and Health Service
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    Morning,

    Thank-you to everyone who responded with sound advice.
    Im sure I will be contacting you again in the near future when fine tuning my policy.

    Regards,
    Tina

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Robinson, Nikki
    Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2018 8:12 AM
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    Subject: Re: Reviewing management of MRO’s in perioperative unit.

    Hi Tina,
    Our approach is to treat all patients the same. We do not screen all patients so would have many unknown colonised patients. By adopting a one approach policy there is no confusion as per Michael & Joanna comments below.
    We recover all patients in recovery. The only time we would recover a patient in theatre would be if they were on droplet precautions (only happened once with a norovirus patient with a # NOF)
    We dont do bronchoscopies so dont have airborne precautions to contend with in theatre / endoscopy unit.
    Thanks
    Nikki

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    Hi Tina

    Our approach is similar to that described by Joanna Harris. I did a presentation to some per-operative nurses here about this. The key was investigating current practices between patients and plugging the holes (ie who cleans what make sure everyone knows their role).

    I think you need to work out what will work in your setting, though. I do not believe a one-size-fits-all approach will work.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Hello Tina, and welcome.
    The important thing is to thoroughly look at the risks associated with MROs in theatre balanced with the risks associated with managing patients known to be colonised. Also recognise that you do not probably know the MRO colonisation status in real time for every single patient.
    Here in the Illawarra Shoalhaven in NSW we have adopted a much more horizontal approach to our infection prevention and control policies. Essentially this can be described as doing the right thing for everyone. By doing this we make things simpler for staff, prevent discriminatory practices for those patients with a history of MRO colonisation, and avoid problems such as the ones you have described with wasted theatre time and equipment issues.
    I would be very happy to discuss off line, and share policies etc. if you are interested.

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    On 7 Dec 2018, at 15:09, Tina Muller <Tina.Muller@HEALTH.QLD.GOV.AU> wrote:
    Afternoon,

    Im a new member, and very excited to be able to network with such a diverse body of knowledge.

    Question?
    We are currently reviewing our management of MROs within the perioperative Unit.
    Specifically focusing on decanting theatres prior to admitting the patient into theatre.
    This includes the anaesthetic drugs trolley which is kept close at hand outside the door.
    Yes, we allocate an outside runner.

    There are two components that we are keen to focus on.

    1. Decanting the Theatre we are discussing the Non-Contact vs Contact Zone
    2. Recovering of patient in the theatre ( VRE / ESBL/CRE ) vs PACU (MRSA)

    These are the core issue that cause grief among the staff.
    Ana Folk- not ready access to emergent equipment if required.
    Loss of theatre time in recovering patient in Theatre.

    As you are aware, this implicates theatre staff and activity time.
    This is addressed with allocating the MRO patients to the end of the elective lists
    If we have a spare theatre – we will take the MRO patients there, so there is minimal lost time in their home theatre( while someone else cleans up or recovers the patient)
    No so easy to negotiate if this is an emerg patient.

    Earlier this year, I emailed across QHealth via SWAPNET, and thank-you to all who responded.
    This has given us much to consider, drawing us to the Contact vs Non-Contact area within the actual theatre.

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    Before I totally re-write our Policy reflecting the changes, I would like the opinion of the ACIPC Network.
    I thank-you for your time and consideration in this matter.

    Regards,
    Tina

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    in reply to: IV lines advice please #74940
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    Afternoon,
    Dependant on the scenario, here at Mackay we use a side arm.

    Regards,
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    Hello brains trust

    I am forwarding a question from Colleagues which I am hoping some of our more benevolent vascular access experts on line may be able to better advise / ref me to in being able to adequately respond their query below

    thanks for any advice in advance

    “Can you please advise me what you guys do regarding IV lines – as we are trying to settle a debate here.

    We currently use a single spike IV and then use a piggy back line attached into the side port to infuse drugs.

    The alternative is to use a double spike system to run in fluids and drugs, and save money by not having to use a side line. My personal preference is to stick with the side line as I think it is the safer option. However the pressure to save money is there.

    Can you tell me what you guys do, and provide me with any other contacts you have that I might talk to?”

    Kind regards

    Lindy

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