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    Hi

    We did a study on this during the Ebola preparedness. We looked at infrared and ear thermometers. It was published in a local NSW journal but I am unable to locate it now.

    The infrared thermometers were up to 1 degree Celsius lower on some subjects. The study subjects had their temperature taken both indoor and outdoors. They were a mixed age group.

    Our recommendation was to not use the infrared thermometers for airport screening as they were unreliable.

    I will try to locate the paper and post it.

    Thank you

    Joe

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    Hi Sue

    We looked at contactless infrared contactless thermometers, but the actual temperature measurements provided were not considered accurate enough by our physicians.

    We use mainly infrared ear thermometers in our adult patients, with a probe cover, and wipe with a detergent wipe between uses.

    One of the advantages of an ear thermometer is that it does not come into contact with mucous membranes, and therefore the question about high level disinfection between patients is avoided.

    But I know there are physicians who will not rely upon infrared ear thermometer readings, although we find they tend to be quite accurate, provided they are taken correctly and the ear used is not inflamed.

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    Michael

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    Hi all,

    Does anyone use contactless infrared thermometers?

    In the current environment it may seem prudent to use them.

    We use Covidien thermometers and go through 100 probe covers a day on one ward.

    It would be good to reduce the level of plastic discarded too.

    Regards,

    Sue

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    Hi Debra,

    We use probe covers or the thermometers dont work anyway. I have always wiped them down with the cleaning wipe supplied to wipe down the rest of the obs machine. Its standard practice to clean between each patient. I would of thought if proper cleaning has been used with wipes rated to kill the microorganism and use of covers sufficient for general use with dedicated equipment wherever possible for people in isolation.

    Regards Angela Carvosso

    RN Warwick Health Services

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    Hi all,

    Has anyone else been asked if oral thermometers should undergo HLD to comply with 4187, as the probe comes in contact with a mucous membrane?
    There is heightened awareness around COVID 19 transmission and it was raised that a probe cover is not considered sufficient protection without HLD for other sites

    If you could please let me know what processes do others use for cleaning of oral thermometer probes between each patient?

    Kind regards,

    Debra Lee
    Clinical Nurse Consultant
    Infection Management and Prevention Service
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    Redcliffe Hospital
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