[Steven Doak]

Michael,

Yes , it is understood that a fresh set per department (even within the same hospital) would be required. This would be our policy
As indicated, we are also exploring the disposable option, or even reusable branded hats, and hospital issued scrubs.

Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gren

Steven Doak

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Hospital Consumables & Accessories

Draeger Australia Pty. Ltd.
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Apologies, Steven, I forgot to ask you to fully identify yourself before I approved this post, although I am sure you are an employee of Draeger…

My response to this idea would be that it would not fit neatly into out scrub uniform policy. We require any person entering the OR suite to change out of clothes that are worn outside the hospital buildings into freshly laundered scrubs. Company reps would need to bring their freshly laundered scrubs with them to change into, and if they visited many hospital in a day this would be problematic.

It is a good idea for identification of company reps, but maybe not with specific scrubs.

Will be interested in further comments, though.

Cheers
Michael

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Afternoon All

We are considering “company scrubs” , branded, to help identify company reps who often work in direct clinical areas where scrubs are worn , especially in the OR.
We would like the group verdict on this proposal.
Issues already considered

Clean and correctly fitted scrubs

Regular laundry , with several sets per rep.

Disposable scrubs? …

Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gren

Steven Doak

Steven.Doak@draeger.com

Hi Marija

Yes, an old chestnut, still causing issues. I have to say upfront, though, that the evidence that scrubs make any difference (in any setting) to reduce infection risk is pretty non-existent. So I consider more an staff aesthetics and protection of clothing issue than an infection n prevention one.

1. Wearing of scrubs in endo and for bronchs is not universal, but staff have the option, when they are done outside the main theatre suite.

2. Bone marrow often biopsied in the ward, and no one has scrubs on. Some are done in Cath lab procedure room, but even then the proceduralists (who is not a cath lab staff member) wears scrubs – they may have a cover gown on rather than scrubs.

3. We have a policy that scrubs are only changed if visibly soiled, or after leaving and re-entering the building (eg walking between hospitals). No cover gowns required when visiting wards, etc, but we try and stop them visiting wards with visibly soiled scrubs!

4. We have designated tea rooms in all procedural areas, so not food outside of these. Staff may have a designated, labelled water bottle (we prefer the non-spill type) within the theatre suite, but not in the actual theatres (difficult to stop our visiting anaesthetists from bringing their drinks in their case and tipping then under their masks during procedures, though… ).

I think because of lack of ‘evidence’ to support any position this will always remain a controversial topic!

Cheers
Michael

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St Vincent’s Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
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Good afternoon all,

This might be the chestnut that keeps giving but I am just wondering what practices are in place at your healthcare facilities with regard to:

1. The wearing of surgical scrubs for endoscopy, bone marrow biopsy, interventional radiology, thoracic procedure areas which may be co-located within general surgical suite/ zone?

2. Staff changing their scrubs when leaving and re-entering the theatre?

3. Staff consumption of food and beverages within the theatre areas including recovery nurses station?

I know it seems common sense and standards are available, but we are constantly informed to provide the evidence. Just wanting to benchmark with other HCF.

Any feedback/comments greatly appreciated.

Kind Regards

Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager -CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
The Royal Adelaide Hospital| Central Adelaide Local Health Network
8E Rm256 Port Road, ADELAIDE 5000
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Afternoon All

We are considering “company scrubs” , branded, to help identify company reps who often work in direct clinical areas where scrubs are worn , especially in the OR.
We would like the group verdict on this proposal.
Issues already considered

Clean and correctly fitted scrubs

Regular laundry , with several sets per rep.

Disposable scrubs? …

Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gren

Steven Doak

Steven.Doak@draeger.com

Hi Marija

Yes, an old chestnut, still causing issues. I have to say upfront, though, that the evidence that scrubs make any difference (in any setting) to reduce infection risk is pretty non-existent. So I consider more an staff aesthetics and protection of clothing issue than an infection n prevention one.

1. Wearing of scrubs in endo and for bronchs is not universal, but staff have the option, when they are done outside the main theatre suite.

2. Bone marrow often biopsied in the ward, and no one has scrubs on. Some are done in Cath lab procedure room, but even then the proceduralists (who is not a cath lab staff member) wears scrubs – they may have a cover gown on rather than scrubs.

3. We have a policy that scrubs are only changed if visibly soiled, or after leaving and re-entering the building (eg walking between hospitals). No cover gowns required when visiting wards, etc, but we try and stop them visiting wards with visibly soiled scrubs!

4. We have designated tea rooms in all procedural areas, so not food outside of these. Staff may have a designated, labelled water bottle (we prefer the non-spill type) within the theatre suite, but not in the actual theatres (difficult to stop our visiting anaesthetists from bringing their drinks in their case and tipping then under their masks during procedures, though… ).

I think because of lack of ‘evidence’ to support any position this will always remain a controversial topic!

Cheers
Michael

Michael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E

St Vincent’s Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
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Good afternoon all,

This might be the chestnut that keeps giving but I am just wondering what practices are in place at your healthcare facilities with regard to:

1. The wearing of surgical scrubs for endoscopy, bone marrow biopsy, interventional radiology, thoracic procedure areas which may be co-located within general surgical suite/ zone?

2. Staff changing their scrubs when leaving and re-entering the theatre?

3. Staff consumption of food and beverages within the theatre areas including recovery nurses station?

I know it seems common sense and standards are available, but we are constantly informed to provide the evidence. Just wanting to benchmark with other HCF.

Any feedback/comments greatly appreciated.

Kind Regards

Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager -CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
The Royal Adelaide Hospital| Central Adelaide Local Health Network
8E Rm256 Port Road, ADELAIDE 5000
The Queen Elizabeth Hospital | Central Adelaide Local Health Network
Level 8 Tower Building | 28 Woodville Road, WOODVILLE SOUTH 5011
t: +61 8 7074 2810 (RAH) 8222 7588 (TQEH)| f: +61 8 7074 6228 (RAH) +61 8 8222 6461 (TQEH) | m: 0466 379 821|DX: 465432 (TQEH) |e:marija.juraja@sa.gov.au |web: IPCU Intranet Site and Resources
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