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    Hi Cate and all
    Interesting topic. Manufacturers claims of antibacterial properties rely on testing under laboratory controlled conditions and these only demonstrate log reduction of specific organisms such as S. aureus, E.coli and E. faecium and not the whole range of other infectious agents e.g. norovirus or newer emerging pathogens of significance such as Carbapenam-resistant acinetobacter.

    A randomised control trial conducted by Ohl , Schweizer, Graham et al. demonstrated that the use of such curtains in an Intensive Care Unit extended the time of first contamination than when a standard curtain was used. However the degree of contamination is dependent on the patients infectious status, environment and healthcare workers. As such our guidelines are:
    The curtains must be dated upon installation and changed when:
    1. visibly soiled
    2. following cleaning of a bedspace in an inpatient ward occupied by a patient with an infectious organism or at discharge/transfer of a patient who is under isolation
    3. during an intensive (outbreak) ward clean
    4. if the surface of the curtain is no longer smooth i.e. frayed
    5. as per manufacturers recommendations if criteria 1-4 do not apply

    Reference
    Ohl M, Schweizer M, Graham M et al. (2012. Hospital privacy curtains are frequently and rapidly contaminated with potentially pathogenic bacteria. American Journal Infection Control Vol 40 (10) Pages 904906

    Regards

    Rosie Lee CICP-E | Coordinator
    Infection Prevention & Management
    Royal Perth Bentley Group
    Level 6, A Block, Wellington Street, Perth, WA, 6008
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Michael Wishart
    Sent: Tuesday, 10 April 2018 7:37 AM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: Disposable curtains

    Hi Kathy

    We change our antimicrobial disposable curtains every 12 months unless stained or torn. We do not change them more frequently for patients with respiratory viruses; however we did not routinely do this after most respiratory viruses (including seasonal influenza) either.

    Verily was correct in her previous message; you should check the claims of the curtain manufacturer against organisms and time. Those manufacturers who provide independently verified data are best, and you should check for both anti-viral and antibacterial claims. Real world testing (ie testing after actual use) is preferred over lab only testing.

    Cheers
    Michael

    Michael Wishart, CICP-E
    Infection Control Coordinator

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Kathy Mcdowell
    Sent: Monday, 9 April 2018 4:47 PM
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    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Disposable curtains

    I also have a question in regards to Influenza.
    None of the curtains claim to be effective against Influenza do you replace curtains for these patients or stay with the schedule??

    Kathy McDowell
    Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention And Control Service (IPACS)
    Blacktown and Mount Druitt hospitals
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Verily Thomas
    Sent: Monday, 9 April 2018 10:39 AM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: Disposable curtains

    Hi All

    We have had our disposable curtains for about 3 years now. The decision we made following an actual trial in high risk MRO areas where the curtains were left for a period of 7months and then tested with no growth (VRE or MRSA or other except an ESBL in ICU:

    1. 6months for high to medium to high risk areas (which would be most of our ED, acute wards and peri-op here.

    2. 12months for low risk areas (outpatient departments and clinics.

    We only came out with this after an actual trial to support claims made by the supplier. I would recommend there are a whole lot of different brands out there so be careful when deciding I have observed some questionable advertising.

    Kind Regards
    Verily Thomas

    Clinical Nurse Consultant, Infection Prevention & Control | Bankstown-Lidcombe Hospital
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Juraja, Marija (Health)
    Sent: Monday, 9 April 2018 9:54 AM
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    Subject: Re: Disposable curtains

    We replace every 12 months.
    The exception being if its a CRO patient, or an outbreak then changed on discharge.

    Kind Regards

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Marie Sheehan
    Sent: Friday, 6 April 2018 1:47 PM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Disposable curtains

    Every 6 months

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    Sent: Friday, 6 April 2018 12:01 PM
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    Hi everyone,
    For those of you who use disposable curtains, would you share your curtain change schedule with me?
    cheers

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    Lee, Rosie
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    Dear all
    I agree with Terry in this context. It appears a high proportion of HCWs are very out of touch with the use of gloves in accordance with Standard Precautions and I am constantly being challenged that due to OSH requirements, we have to accept a HCW if they wish to use gloves to protect themselves!
    I constantly stop patient support services staff , ambulance drivers and to a lesser degree nurses from wearing gloves unnecessary. I was dismayed last week when asked to consult on the filming of a procedure to be used for training, I had to stop the anaesthetist wearing gloves before he had contact with a patient and equipment. He informed me that this is standard practice to wear gloves before having any contact with equipment and any patient as he guarantees his hands have tiny minute cuts at any given time! It took a 20 minute conversation before I could get anywhere and he changed his practice for the filming but I wonder if he will revert to it when I am not present!

    So I too welcome the collective thoughts of colleagues to better inform HCW’s on board with appropriate glove use.

    Regards

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    Royal Perth Bentley Group
    Level 6, A Block, Wellington Street, Perth, WA, 6008
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    Hi Everyone,

    I agree. We should be discouraging the routine use of gloves for processes / practices where the use of gloves is unnecessary and promoting aseptic non-touch technique.

    I have come across the circulating nurses wearing gloves to open sterile packs in the Operating Suite. Completely unnecessary in my humble opinion.

    I’m also surprised that there has been discussion promoting the wearing of gloves in the CSSD packing areas. The premise is that it is protecting the instruments from contamination with skin flora and parallels are being drawn to the wearing of gloves in clean rooms operations.

    I’d be interested to hear the thoughts of my colleagues or to be pointed in the direction of some studies that support these practices.

    Kind Regards
    Terry McAuley
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    Hi All,

    I agree with Ruth. If there is no evidence the practice should be discouraged.

    In addition many healthcare workers who wear gloves do so to “protect themselves” and ignore the principles of aseptic no-touch technique when wearing gloves increasing the risk of potential contamination.

    Regards

    Glenys

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    Hi there
    We looked at the occupational hazards of drawing up antibiotics without gloves a number of years ago when The 5 Moments were first introduced. The use of gloves for drawing up ABs is indeed a normal occurrence now and it leads to continuous glove use re. The 5 Moments so non-compliance with Moment 2. With the exception of a few ‘nasty’ ABs there was no evidence we could find for occupational risks associated with drawing up ABs e.g. no increase in sensitization forwards ABs etc. One exception was if you already had a severe sensitivity towards a particular AB. We try and discourage this practice for the above reason.

    Cheers
    Ruth

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    Hi all

    I have been asked if we should have a policy regarding routine use of gloves when preparing and administrating IV antibiotics. My initial reaction is no, we should not be handling IV antibiotic solutions in such a way as to cause skin exposure. But having looked at some of the product information regarding the vesicant nature of some antibiotics (eg vancomycin), and the risk of adverse effects via absorption through the skin (eg gentamicin), I am wondering whether a standard approach to wearing gloves when handling antibiotic solutions should be recommended. And should we also recommend protective eyewear for this?

    What do other facilities advise staff in regard to this? And how much of a risk would you consider this may be to staff?

    Thanks for any opinions and comments.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Lee, Rosie
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    Hi Heather

    We also collect HA-BSI data which commenced in 2012.
    I am very happy to share with you and others performing this surveillance if you want to email me direct.

    Regards

    Rosie Lee CICP-E I Coordinator Infection Prevention & Management I Royal Perth Hospital I
    Royal Perth Bentley Group I EMHS I

    Level 6, South Block, Wellington Street PERTH WA 6000
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    Dear colleagues

    Thank you for your great response to my question regarding the change in definition of SSI’s.
    Another question for you.
    At Canberra Hospital we have been collecting whole of hospital blood stream infection data since 1998.
    Would any IC’s be willing to share what other hospitals in Australia also do whole of hospital blood stream surveillance.

    Kind regards

    Heather

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    in reply to: Re: hand hygiene awards #72925
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    Hi Jayne

    We have had a monthly “Top HH ward performer” for the ward with the best results for the past 5 years.
    We give them a certificate , a perpetual trophy (that they keep for the month) and any ward achieving over 85% also gets a cake.

    It is very well received by staff.
    Any recognition always goes down well. It has taken 5 years but the rate has only improved consistently to over 80% for the past 6 months! But as we keep saying this is “observed” rate.
    My team agree with Joe’s comments 🙂

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    Thanks Joe Anne,
    Agree with your last comment, it becomes laborious after a while.!!!

    Kind regards
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    Hi Jayne

    We have done various awards eg most improved, best professional group in a department, first ward/department to reach 90%. We do not do it every year

    I think we should have an award for the auditor who consistently performs the auditing!

    Thank you

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    Dear Colleagues,

    Just wondering if anyone has an annual hand hygiene award that is awarded to ward/department, and if so what are your criteria for selecting the winners?
    We are about to award for the first time in our annual awards, but want the selection to be correct as it is not just about improvement but consistency of improvement, we don’t want to put staff off improving on hand hygiene compliance who have had good results but maybe have not been consistent!! Does that make sense???

    Anyway happy to hear your advise:)

    Kind regards
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    in reply to: Re: Use of IV venflon catheter #71947
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    Hi Tim

    Thank you very much for the information and references which are extremely useful. The catheters we use here are not the safety ones.

    Regards
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    Hi Rosie,
    You are correct. The BD Venflon IV cannula has been widely used throughout Europe and the UK (well it was when I was there many years ago). Is it the Pro Safety or the standard ported cannula?
    This style of ported cannula has been around since the early 1980’s, so despite the recent addition of a safety aspect, it is still old technology (in regards to the port aspect).

    A ported cannula has significantly increased infection rates due to the inability to correctly scrub the hub or decontaminate the injection port, as well as port cap failure.

    Here is an Australian publication from NT in 2013 that may help in product purchase changes – Tay, S et al. Functional evaluation and practice survey to guide purchasing of intravenous cannulae, BMC Anesthesiology 2013, 13:49 http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2253/13/49

    There has also been reports from the UK of the ports failing – H. Adler, R. Cunningham, R. Parimkayala Valve failure in an injection port, Irish Journal of Medical Science June 2011, Volume 180, Issue 2, p 615
    http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11845-010-0622-z

    These ported styles of cannula were likely introduced due to the higher number of UK physicians coming to work in WA (possibly due to clinician preference only) and have high infection and poor compliance rates, due to the difficult nature of port location. These are primarily placed in OT only (as you describe) and are not used in the general wards areas as far as I am aware.

    Although this may be a ‘convenient option’ for clinicians, it is not in the best interest of the patient, due to the higher risks associated with these types of cannulae.

    From the BD Europe website; http://www.bd.com/europe/safety/en/products/infusion/bdv_prosafety.asp

    * BD Vialon(tm) – Proven easy insertion and longer in dwell times1-4

    1) Maki D, Ringer M. Risk Factors for Infusion-related Phlebitis with Small Peripheral Venous Catheters. Annals of Internal Medicine. (1991); 114: 845-854.

    2) Gaukroger PB, Roberts JG, Manners TA. Infusion Thrombophlebitis: A Prospective Comparison of 645 Vialon(r) and Teflon(r) Canulae in Anesthetic and Postoperative Use. Anesthesia and Intensive Care.August (1988); 16(3).

    3) Stanley M, Meister E, Fuschuber K. Infiltration During Intravenous Therapy in Neonates: Comparison of Teflon(r) and Vialon(r) Catheters. Southern Medical Journal.September (1992); 85(9); 883-886.

    4) McKee JM, Shell JA, Warren TA, Campbell VP. Complications of Intravenous Therapy: A Randomized Prospective Study–Vialon vs. Teflon. Journal of Infusion Nursing. September (1989); 12: 288-2.

    Considering the ongoing changes in technology and increased focus on device and patient outcomes, these references are very old and dated. I agree with you that this as a huge risk for contamination and a breach of AT principles.

    The BD Nexiva cannula would seem to be a far better alternative (for patient and clinician), and still offering a safety option, various access points and improved securement.

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    Hello

    Recently I have been made aware of this practice following implementation of Aseptic Technique Policy. It appears in our theatres the Anaesthetists use the BD Venflon(tm) intravenous catheter with integrated injection port and valve for medication and this stays in the patient. I am told the caps are either being left open in Theatres for quick access by Anaesthetists or they popp off very frequently. In recovery nurses are observed continuing to use this to administer medication. I see this as a huge risk for contamination and a breach of AT principles.

    The BD representative states that this type of catheter is not used in other states of Australia but is common in UK and Europe. Is this correct?

    Have you come across this in your hospitals? If so have you ceased the use or do you advocate using the side extension tubing which has a hub that can be scrubbed?

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    in reply to: 2014 Conference #71664
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    Hi Joe-Anne
    On behalf the Organising Committee and I am sure Glenys will respond when she gets the chance for the Scientific Committee! Thank you very much for the lovely feedback.

    If we only take home a tip each the conference is indeed successful. The networking was fantastic. Thank you again and to all delegates, speakers, participants and trade for supporting this event. There is no conference without you all.
    Look forward to your evaluations which will be valuable for us to continuously improve.

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    On 27 Nov 2014, at 10:28 am, Joe-Anne Bendall <Joe-Anne.Bendall@SESIAHS.HEALTH.NSW.GOV.AU> wrote:

    Hi
    Can I congratulate the organising and scientific committee on the program for the conference. I thought it was an excellent conference and has given me some ideas, reinvigorated me to relook at some of my programs and has made me think of why we do some things!

    I am looking forward to next year

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    I agree entirely. This is not good practice and one we have been continuously promoting to stop. This is obviously not evidence based and will do more harm than good.

    Regards
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    On 22 Oct 2014, at 2:45 pm, Donnellan, Robyn <Robyn.Donnellan@NCAHS.HEALTH.NSW.GOV.AU> wrote:

    Hi Terry
    I am concerned that the CDC has recommended the use of ABHR on gloves. ABHR has skin emollients in the preparation and is classified as a skin antiseptic not a disinfectant. A straight 70% alcohol impregnated wipe (disinfectant ) should be used if an equipment surface wipe is required throughout the doffing procedure. Some staff think the use of ABHR is acceptable, I would be disappointed if this poor practice was promoted.
    Kind regards
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    Hi Michael,
    Given Ebola urgency, uniqueness, and common need of members, can you allow an exception in naming of disinfectant brands and types? The CDC list of EPA registered is very frustrating and not applicable in Australia.
    Linda, CDNA recommends 1,000-5,000ppm hypochlorite for cleaning and spills (dependent on blood presence) it is economical, readily available and effective.
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    Hey all Ebola champions

    just been asked by my boss here what others are considering or have to hand re the new CDC guidelines

    http://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2014/fs1020-ebola-personal-protective-equipment.html

    re this point specifically

    Disinfection of gloved hands using either an EPA-registered disinfectant wipe or alcohol-based hand rub between steps of taking off PPE.

    Will you be considering ABHR or a disinfectant wipeif a wipe what would you use.

    We are just trying to understand what specifically is in the EPA registered disinfectant wipe so we can match it with what we have TGA approved and available in Australia as there are many listed but not available in Australia

    We have a disinfectant wipe here we use for environmental cleaning (I know I cant name products on this forum) here but know there are other products. Can anybody send me what they are using off line and if it comply with the EPA list as recommended by the CDC (I know you are busy so a quick reply with just a name would be great!)

    Hope you are all travelling wellhuge body of work being done by us all trying to have consistency for staff and pt safety and calm another thesis for somebody in the making hey?

    Thank you so much for those of you who have kindly shared so much already you are all such a wonderful group to be able to liaise and work with I love being an ICP when I get to work with such proactive resourceful sharing bunch as we all are!!

    Cheers

    Lindy

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    in reply to: Re: Cupriavidis pauculus #70829
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    Over 15 years ago we experienced persistent Pseudomonas spp in endoscopy
    monitoring. It was identified that the rinse water was the source of the
    contamination. Rinse water from pipework downstream from filters had
    hig counts of the pseudomonas suggesting biofilm within the piping was
    contaminating the rinse water. A disinfection protocol was set up which
    consisted of automated daily superheating of the rinse water delivery
    system and the problem resolved. See publication.

    Pang et al, 2002, Bacteria-free water for endoscope disinfection
    Gastroendoscopy Intestinal , 56 (3)

    Regards

    Rosie

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    Hi Everyone,

    Thanks for your responses. Cath, thanks for referring this on to Bill –
    I look forward to hearing what he has to contribute.

    None of the patients have been affected by this organism. We are
    culturing it in very low numbers [<100cfu] from the Automated Flexible
    Endoscope Reprocessor [AER] only, however as it is being initially
    reported as a gram negative bacilli or a pseudomonas species, alarm
    bells have rung and we have asked for the organism to be identified so
    we can take appropriate action to protect our patients.

    Unfortunately the GENCA (2010) guidelines do not have a flow chart to
    assist in the response to positive cultures of an AER, so the approach
    we have taken from a risk management perspective is to follow the
    recommendations for a contaminated endoscope and have consulted the
    microbiologists from the various pathology labs.

    My original thoughts were that it could be arising from the filters or
    potentially be contaminating the fluid pathway of the AER, however the
    affected machines are different models [same brand], different
    disinfectant [for one] and the clients are not all using the same brands
    of filters. They are however, located in a similar geographical area.

    My primary question is – given the organism has low pathogenicity, do
    we really need to be concerned if the count is <100cfu?

    Thoughts anyone?

    Regards

    Terry McAuley

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    Hi Terry

    Interesting question and interesting set of responses.

    I have sent it along to Bill Rutala to see his opinion. Will keep you
    posted on any reply.

    Out of interest have you seen any illness among pts that could correlate
    with this org (I note the at risk group you mention)?

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    Hi Everyone,

    I have had a recent spate where a number of my endoscopy procedure
    centre clients have reported culturing of “Pseudomonas species” or Gram
    negative bacilli after the monthly water testing of the Automated
    Endoscope Reprocessors.

    Upon further investigation, the organism has been identified as
    Cupriavidis pauculus. This organism is often associated with ultra
    filtration systems and although it has low pathogenicity it is a risk to
    immunocompromised patients.

    Despite repeated water line disinfections, filter changes, disinfectant
    dumps etc this bug keeps cropping up over and over again. We find that
    we have cleared it in the next test after filter changes etc etc but
    then a month later – we get a positive result again.

    Whilst in low numbers, it is causing some concern regarding potential
    risks to patients. In all cases we are not growing the organism form the
    endoscopes.

    I am wondering if anyone else has been experiencing the same issues?

    If so – what did you do about it both in terms of managing the machines
    and the risks to patients?

    If you have cultured this organism, did you manage to identify the cause
    of the problem?

    Happy to chat offline.

    Regards

    Terry McAuley

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    It was something we came up with and designed with our engineer based on
    infection prevention principles as there was not much out there in
    recommendations when the design was started around 2002. So it has not
    been validated except that we have not had any ARO outbreaks in our unit
    despite having to care for long term patients have very resistant ARO’s.

    Regards

    Rosie

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    Dear all,

    thanks everybody for your replies – very useful!

    I was particularly after the design that does not require switching of
    ventilation

    Thanks to Marija, I’ve located the design which is described in the UK
    document, The link has been updated on the built environment web page.
    The design is called a positive pressure ventilated lobby room. Would be
    very interested to hear from anyone with experience of this design.
    Donna, is this the design you have ? Rosie, your design is different –
    is it specified/validated anywhere?

    http://hicsigwiki.asid.net.au/index.php?titleBuilt_Environment

    kind regards,

    John

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    pressure) room design

    Dear John,

    We’ve got 2 dual-purpose isolation rooms currently in service that were
    probably based on older guidelines (before my time here).

    These rooms have the ability to switch from positive to negative
    pressure by the flick of a key-switch (the ante-room is always positive
    pressured with the exhaust located in the ensuite).

    Current guidelines do not support these designs owing to the huge risk
    they pose if activated incorrectly by staff e.g. sputum positive TB
    cases having positive pressure instead of negative pressure by
    inattentive staff, etc.

    It would be preferable, from a risk perspective, that your Type 5
    negative pressured rooms remain as dedicated negative pressured ones…
    these settings are thus pre-configured and your Engineering departments
    then conduct regular servicing and monitors the air pressure exchanges.

    We are currently undergoing a major hospital redevelopment and have
    factored in dedicated Type 5 negative pressured rooms in our planning
    for various wards.

    Airflow for these rooms come via positive pressure from the anteroom and
    from the doorway leading to the ward corridor (if the door is
    temporarily opened)… the air then flows to the negative pressured
    exhausts in the ensuite and the main room.

    The air is exhausted out of the building immediately and does not get
    re-circulated (some older designs filter the exhausted air from these
    rooms or not at all, and re-circulate it… this is not ideal).

    I’m very keen to have a look at the functional design of this novel
    concept isolation room should you manage to find the link, John.

    Kind regards,

    Gerald

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    Dear Brainstrust

    Some time ago, I came across a novel configuration of a single room that
    provides for both protective (positive pressure barrier) and isolation
    (negative pressure) requirements. Extensive testing was described at the
    Hospital Infection Society Conference, Amsterdam 2006. It was specified
    under Building Note 4 by
    HEFMA but the link no longer works and I’ve been unsuccessful with
    chasing down the design. Concept involves an isolation room with a
    positive pressure anteroom and exhaust from the ensuite room which is
    entered from the main room. The design is relatively fail-safe and does
    not need to be manually configured.

    I wondered whether anyone has come across this? Has anyone built
    functioning dual purpose isolation/barrier rooms? We are building a new
    paed ICU and we need both types of room !

    thanks

    John

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    Hi John

    When we renovated our ICU in 2004, we created 4 isolation rooms at
    positive pressure relative to the anteroom and sluice room.

    The anteroom and sluice room is at negative pressure relative to the
    isolation room and corridor. These are used primarily for our Burns
    patients and immunocompromised patients with ARO’s.

    Although in principle you should be able to utilise this for
    immunocompromised patients with airborne infections as the ante room is
    negative to corridor we opted not to take this risk. I cant recall us
    ever having a Burns or immunocompromised patient with airborne
    infections and if we did we would place them in a negative pressure room
    with ante room negative to room and corridor.

    Our Burns unit was built in 2005 with positive pressure rooms, ante
    rooms negative to isolation room but negative to corridor. We have not
    had any ARO outbreaks in this unit

    Regards

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    Dear Brainstrust

    Some time ago, I came across a novel configuration of a single room that
    provides for both protective (positive pressure barrier) and isolation
    (negative pressure) requirements. Extensive testing was described at the
    Hospital Infection Society Conference, Amsterdam 2006. It was specified
    under Building Note 4 by
    HEFMA but the link no longer works and I’ve been unsuccessful with
    chasing down the design. Concept involves an isolation room with a
    positive pressure anteroom and exhaust from the ensuite room which is
    entered from the main room. The design is relatively fail-safe and does
    not need to be manually configured.

    I wondered whether anyone has come across this? Has anyone built
    functioning dual purpose isolation/barrier rooms? We are building a new
    paed ICU and we need both types of room !

    thanks

    John

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    Hi John

    We have an info sheet here and I am happy to provide this if you email
    me directly.

    Regards

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    Hi

    Has anyone developed a specific information sheet for HCW staff who have
    been identified as MRSA infected or colonised?

    Thanks!

    John

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    in reply to: Isolating VRE Patients #69789
    Lee, Rosie
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    Hi Barbara

    As you know out here in the west we have a very stringent program.
    Despite the limited number of single rooms in my facility we still
    continue to isolate patients or cohort under contact precautions. These
    patients are never cleared as there is no evidence that clearance can be
    achieved. When these patients are placed on antibiotics, they often
    revert back to VRE being detected despite many negative screens. One of
    the highest risk factor for an outbreak and spread is diarrhoea so if
    you are pressed for rooms and a decision, I would insist on someone with
    diarrhoea being isolated.

    Regards

    Rosie

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    Hello,

    My managers have asked me to review our current practices of isolating
    VRE positive patients. This is mainly due to the limited number of
    single rooms within our facility. I am interested to know how you
    manage patients who have a positive VRE screen, whether you isolate or
    not, what risk assessments you undertake to determine as to whether to
    isolate or not and whether you have introduced a yoghurt regime for
    these patients and how you then manage these patients.

    Thanking you in advance,

    Barbara

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    in reply to: Re: Electronic Sensor Taps #69763
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    Hello

    We also had them in our ICU in 2002 (installed without real consultation
    with IC) and have had issues with it. An outbreak of MRPA in our ICU
    identified the source to be these taps following literature search
    indicating the issues as outlined by Sue. This was confirmed by typing.
    We did not publish but presented this at the National Conference. We
    have had to implement monthly thermal heating & disinfection since.
    I don’t support these taps unless there are newer better products which
    addresses the issues and you have a good maintenance program in place.
    However as already mentioned, this is costly and not monitored
    effectively.

    Regards
    Rosie
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    Sue,
    We had them in our old ICU before moving into our bigger, new facility.
    They failed regularly and were a major inconvenience when not working.
    Seriously, consider the normal long handled (elbow-control) taps and
    handles.
    Power failures are also problematic.
    T..
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    Dear All

    Here at the Royal Hobart Hospital we are in the detailed design stage of
    our major redevelopment project, and we are currently investigating the
    pros and cons of the electronic sensor taps for our clinical hand
    basins. I have undertaken a literature search and it appears that some
    facilities that have installed the newer sensor taps, as an infection
    prevention and control improvement activity, are now removing them and
    returning to the more traditional elbow taps.

    The literature suggests that the complexity of the internal workings of
    the electronic tap and the lower dynamic water flow, could contribute to
    the higher level of legionella and other waterborne bacteria found by
    some studies.

    I am very interested to hear from facilities within Australia, regarding
    what type of tap ware has been installed within newly refurbished areas
    or new construction projects.

    Kind Regards

    Sue Draycott

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    in reply to: Observational Audit Tools for IV Cannulation #69559
    Lee, Rosie
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    That’s great. It would be great to see your app, Paul and I share
    Michael’s suggestion for ACIPC to pursue a portal for sharing tools.

    Regards

    Rosie

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    Hi Jo-anne,

    I have developed an iPad based audit tool using iAudit (a free app) for
    observational audit of IV insertion using the ANTT as a framework, happy
    to share. Obviously you’ll need an iPad!

    Regards,

    Paul Simpson, RN, MSc

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    Hi everyone

    I have a very keen medical officer who wants to be a champion for
    improving IV cannula insertion. Does anyone have an observational audit
    tool they would like to share?

    I have an observational audit tool for aseptic technique – wound
    dressing I would be willing to swap for IV cannula insertion!

    Thanks

    Joe

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    in reply to: Portable fans #69473
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    Hi Gerald

    I would agree Michael. It is not possible to have a study proving every
    item does not result in infection. Using infection control principles
    blowing air in a ward environment cannot be a good principle. If a
    patient is heavily colonised with an antibiotic resistant organism (ARO)
    then blowing skin squames will result in contamination. There are many
    studies indicating contamination linked to ARO’s in particular MRSA
    across the ward. Risk assessment may have to be used.

    Regards

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    Hi Gerard

    I recall seeing a study years ago, I think UK based so maybe in JHI,
    that showed MRSA in dust on portable fans. Never have seen anything that
    linked increase in MRSA or HAI directly to portable fans, though; that
    would be epidemiologically difficult to show, I think. Too many other
    variables.

    Doesn’t mean fans are not bad, though. 🙂 Especially when not maintained
    well. Ask if they cleaned thoroughly (meaning the fan blades) between
    each patient use. I suspect not!

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Dear all,

    I’m looking for evidence to back us up on not having fans in patient
    rooms (especially seeing that summer is around the corner).

    I can’t seem to locate any supportive articles on this.

    Has there been any studies done that demonstrate an increased rate of
    infection/colonisation (MRSA, MSSA, etc.) through fan usage in a
    healthcare setting?

    Cheers,

    Gerald

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