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  • in reply to: Hybrid Operating Theatre #77111
    Michael Wishart
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    Hi Cate

    We are in the middle of building one right now. Happy to discuss, and offer some other experts to contact if you would like. Just contact me off list.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    HI Team
    Looking for advice on developing and commissioning a hybrid operating theatre.
    Does anyone have experience in this and provide me with advice?
    Thanks very much
    Cate Coffey
    Clinical Nurse Manager

    Central Australia Health Service
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    in reply to: COVID fomites #77085
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    Hi Betty

    We don’t allow paper records into Transmission Based Precaution rooms anymore, so generally notes are not considered contaminated.

    If a paper record has to enter a room (eg MMSE which the patient has to write on), we get the paper sheet placed into a plastic sleeve, the plastic sleeve is wiped over with a detergent/disinfectant wipe, sealed with tape on removal from the room, and then placed in the medical record.

    All our paper records are now scanned on discharge, so the scanners will wear gloves to remove from the sleeve, and then scan and place back into the sleeve for storage.

    I think the principles of how we do this should work for you.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Dear All,
    Staff are having issues with handling medical records that have been in covid positive patient rooms, does anyone have advice about the time covid fomites live on paper?
    How are you dealing with paper based medical records?
    Regards,
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    in reply to: modification of surgical masks #77058
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    Hi Elizabeth

    The technique itself looks OK, particularly with that specific brand and type of mask. You would have to test it on other brands and types to see if the same technique could be used.

    BUT… I’m not convinced that using this technique is a good idea or even necessary, for a number of reasons, including:

    1. It assumes that a loose fitting mask is a risk. If you are using a level 2 or 3 surgical mask appropriately to prevent droplet transmission, there is no evidence to suggest the seal at the sides is so important.

    2. You are, in my opinion, fanning the flames for the aerosol route of transmission being important with routine contact, not just droplet spread.

    3. Using a level 2 or 3 surgical mask with a seal is sending a false assurance about spread from aerosols, as these masks are not designed to prevent inhalation of aerosols like a correctly fitted P2/N95 masks.

    I will be quite interested in other members’ view on this.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Hello all: I have seen this video on utube which shows how to modify a surgical mask by folding it to achieve a tighter fit.
    Is there any benefit in modifying the masks in this way?

    Is there any problem with doing this – assuming of course that it’s a fresh mas), and also ensuring that that doffing is as per normal infection control procedure?

    I was considering sharing this with my Managers and incorporating into our procedures (in residential and home aged care).

    Any thoughts?

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    in reply to: Eyelash extensions – False Eyelashes #77055
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    Hi Deb

    I think this is one of those areas with lack of evidence, and we need to rely on first principles rather than assume it’s a problem

    How are false eyelashes going to cause a problem during a procedure? Even if there has been some lab study showing false eyelashes can be colonised with higher levels of bacteria, what is your transmission route? Unless the false eyelashes are a danger of falling into a surgical field, I cannot see a transmission route appropriate hand hygiene would not negate. Support and endorse appropriate hand hygiene, not banning fashion because it is not perceived as OK for HCWs.

    I think this issue should be sent back to the policy table as not being supported by infection control as a risk, and they can come up with what they want to do.

    Too often policy makers look to ‘blame’ infection control for their actions (eg lanyards, shoe and sock colours, tattoos). We need to be clear where the risks are and enforce those, not support cultural or fashion dislikes.

    Cheers
    Michael (who, as you can see, is sick of getting blamed for every policy change!)

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    Dear Brains Trust

    I have become aware of some nurses are wearing eyelash extensions,
    Can anyone point me in the right direction for managing this concern- especially in the theatre environment,

    I suspect it will become a policy issue however I would like to have some form of evidence or advice as to what other hospitals are doing

    Thanks in advance

    Deb

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    Michael Wishart
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    Thanks Terry

    There are a number of guidelines in Australia as well that specify N95 ask as part of PPE for these procedures, but none of them give a rationale.

    What route of aerosolization is there for the BCG during these procedures? I cannot recall any recommendations for using N95 masks when doing BCG injections.

    This question has been asked as we wish to rationalize N95 mask use.

    Thanks
    Michael

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    Hi Michael,

    These guidelines are a little old now (2012), however they do reference wearing an N95 mask.

    https://anzuns.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/ANZUNS-Clinical-Guidelines-Intravesical-Instillations-20121.pdf

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    Hi Michael

    I cannot see any reply to your question regarding P2/N95 mask and BCG instillation for bladder cancer. I have not got any reference to your specific question but I have plenty of experience with BCG as a BCG vaccinator and laboratory reception of urine from treated patients.

    Bladder installation might be using a closed system, however, that is not the only risk of exposure. If a cystoscope is used it will be contaminated. The Urine from the BCG infected bladder will be positive for mycobacteria for some time ( laboratory experience) and staff might be handling the urine, if the patient is catheterised, and can get exposed from that source. As a BCG vaccinator, I never used masks of any kind as I found eye protection and protection from needle sticks most important, and in your scenario handling contaminated equipment and BCG colonised urine. Regarding the choice of mask, in my opinion, P2 would suffice as droplet exposure is the most like risk.

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    On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 4:26 PM Michael Wishart <Michael.Wishart@svha.org.au> wrote:

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    Does anyone have any evidence or advise about the need to use P2 N/95 masks for intravesicular instillation of BCG? My understanding is that the current product comes in a closed system for instillation, so in my view an N95 masks need not be worn during the instillation process. Does anyone have any evidence or advice on this?

    Thanks

    Michael

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    in reply to: COVID-19 transmission #76994
    Michael Wishart
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    Hi Elizabeth

    Anyone interested in the ‘droplet vs airborne’ debate about SARS-CoV-2 transmission should read this blog: https://haicontroversies.blogspot.com/2020/07/a-tiresome-spat.html?spreftw&m1&fbclidIwAR38FYt_TVruTnDugyPy_sjlGumOGWdii3aSWsbQ1lhFvX9jfsTMvdy4SNc

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Hello all I’m following the recent developments re-the letter to the world health organisation flagging that COVID-19 may be transmitted by the airborne route. Is anyone else watching this and if so what do you think the implications will be for ICP if COVID-19 does turn out to be airborne as well as droplet and contact? What if anything are you doing to prepare for this possibility? I work in residential and community aged care so would particularly be interested in your feedback if you are also involved in these fields. Thanks very much in advance.

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    in reply to: Surgical masks for renal dialysis #76927
    Michael Wishart
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    Hi Cate

    What is the purpose of the face mask in renal dialysis? Is it to prevent mucous membrane exposure from direct blood splashes to the face?

    If that is the reason, then a Level 2 surgical mask plus a full face face-shield is appropriate protection if Level 3 surgical masks are not available. Obviously, if Level 3 masks become available, they are the preferred level of protection against blood exposures.

    I would, however, caution staff to report failure of face shields to protect against major blood splashes, and where significant blood splash has occurred directly to a Level 2 mask, I would be assessing that exposure risk from a BBV exposure risk perspective, with the understanding that renal dialysis patients may have a higher risk of BBV carriage.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Hi everyone
    We have been notified by a supplier that they are unable to confirm supply level 3 surgical masks from the end of this month. Our dialysis unit staff wear Level 3 mask and faceshield as PPE. We have suggested that staff use level 2 surgical mask with full faceshield for dialysis patients until supply resumes. Can you let me know your thoughts on this?
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    in reply to: pandemic question #76915
    Michael Wishart
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    Hi Jenny

    We considered this, but decided against it, as there are no current QLD or Commonwealth recommendations regarding specific exclusions for those who attended a mass rally, apart from reporting symptoms and getting tested. So we just continue to ask questions about symptoms, travel and exposures. As well as current testing.

    “There is no current recommendation that people who attended those mass gatherings should do anything different, in fact, do exactly the same thing – which is get tested if they become unwell,” he said.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Hi all – just wondering if anyone has included “attendance at a mass gathering” in their COVID-19 questions when screening patients for admission – and if so what are they doing about a positive answer?
    Thanks
    Jenny

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    in reply to: Waste and MBG bib liners #76879
    Michael Wishart
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    HI Marija

    We don’t have bin liners in clinical waste MGBs, but do have purple bin liners in cytotoxic waste MBGs. The liners are NOT tied off prior to transport, the bins are locked prior to being taken to the holding area for transport.

    Our full clinical waste bins are sent to a processing plant with an automated emptying and cleaning process. No liners involved.

    Cytotoxic waste bins are managed separately, with a partially automated system. The cytotoxic MGB liners are provided by the waste company, and cleaned bins come back to the facility with new liners in them.

    I think you might find that some states have specific legislation about how specific waste is handled that may or may not follow the Australian Standard.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Hi all,

    I am asking a question. AS3816 attached for reference.
    Are your clinical waste bins or medical waste bins (240 liters yellow mobile garbage bins) and cytotoxic bins lined with a bin liner?
    If so what type of bin liner is used, who supplies them and who is responsible for tying off the bag when it 2/3 full?
    Any help would be appreciated.

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    Michael Wishart
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    For those who are looking for the advice from the Commission mentioned here, it is attached.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of Teresa Lewis
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    Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Screening questionnaire for patients for elective surgery or investigations

    Subject: Screening questionnaire for patients for elective surgery or investigations

    Hi team
    Weve all no doubt implemented screening of patients since the beginning of this ride we find ourselves on, and now NSQHS has put out a questionnaire for patients presenting for elective surgery or investigations.

    Can I please ask for some clarity on one of the questions, as we are the ones screening the patient pre-procedure at our facility?

    Have you been told that you had COVID19? Should we not then ask how long ago was that notification and have you had two negative swabs since the initial diagnosis? If they are negative then I see no reason to prevent them from having the procedure/investigation.

    Were you a close contact of a person who is known to have COVID19? Should we then ask, has this person returned a negative swab? Do we need to be concerned how long ago that negative swab was taken? (If only 2 days ago, should we wait at least 14days post this before the patient can then be re-screened again to check if any transmission has taken place)?

    I appreciate your help and guidance with this query.

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    in reply to: Fit testing program – Can you please help? #76752
    Michael Wishart
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    Hi Rachel

    We stopped actual fit testing HCWs some years ago, due to all of the issues you had listed. We now rely solely on every HCW fit checking each mask at each use.

    With the possibility of HCWs having to use various brands and styles of masks over the coming months when we see a surge in COVID-19 cases, the logistics of fit testing would add an enormous strain to an already stressed health system.

    I agree with Terry that there should be a national approach to this issue, to provide reassurance to all HCWs that the masks they are wearing are being used in a safe manner.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Hi all

    We are interested in other states/jurisdictions/facilities approaches to fit-testing, either qualitative or quantitative.

    We had a qualitative fit-testing program within our hospital previously and we made the decision to disband this earlier in the year for a number of reasons.

    We are now getting significant pressure from a particular clinical group to re-establish fit-testing again.

    We had a number of issues with the fit-testing program previously and our rationale for not re-establishing fit-testing currently include the following:

    * Fit-testing has not been proven to provide safer P2 (N95) mask use compared with fit-checking alone
    * Despite the presence of the Australian Standard, fit-testing is not mandatory and ‘fit-checking is accepted to be the minimum standard’
    * There are a number of practical difficulties to be considered with the re-introduction of a fit-testing program;
    * If fit-testing is offered to one craft group, all healthcare workers that require a P2 (N95) mask within their clinical role will expect a similar approach. Equitable approach would need to be considered for all.
    * Some individuals will not have a successful ‘fit-test’ e.g. do not taste the fit-testing solution, do not have a successful fit-test with any of the available masks. Does this equate to that healthcare worker being unsafe with an appropriately fit-checked P2 (N95) mask?
    * Resources required for fit-testing program is not insignificant i.e. human resources and PPE required, with consideration for annual testing thereafter
    * What to do for individuals that have not been fit-tested as yet but they are required to work with the requirement of a P2 (N95) mask?
    * What to do if individuals’ fit-tested mask is not available at the point of care, particularly in the setting of the current PPE stock issues?

    We would be really keen to understand others’ thoughts and experiences and approaches.

    Your urgent advice would be much appreciated. Please feel free to email me off-line or even call me if you can

    Thanks in advance
    Rachel

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    in reply to: Re: COVID-19 theatre case #76742
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    Hi Helen

    For the moist part, most users who would normally wear boots for procedures (eg many general surgeons, orthopods and scrub teams for these specialties) would have their own boots. The boots are cleaned with detergent over the outside between uses. But they can also be put through a machine washing process, as they are rubber, not lined.

    For the COVID-19 theatre, we are recommending that boots are removed as part of the doffing process post procedure, and placed in a tub for cleaning. They will be cleaned by a detergent/disinfectant process, dried, and then reused.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of Helen Roberts
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    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] COVID-19 theatre case

    Hi Michael,

    I was just wondering if each staff member has their own gumboots or do they share between staff?

    And how would they clean them if used in COVID19 theatre?

    Regards,
    Helen

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    We have dedicated a specific theatre for COVID-19 cases. There are gumboots for staff to wear as part of the PPE for this theatre, and they put the gum boots on as part of the PPE and remove them as part of removal of PPE.

    We thought about overshoes for all, but were concerned about staff forgetting they had them on and not removing/changing them. Gumboots are pretty obvious!

    Cheers

    Michael

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    From: Lynette Cribb <Lynette.Cribb@uchealth.com.au>
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    Subject: COVID-19 theatre case
    Importance: High

    Morning,

    Just wanting to find out what hospitals are doing around COVID-19 positive patients and them going to theatre in particular around the theatre staff shoes?

    Any information with regards to this would be greatly appreciated.

    thanks

    With kind regards,

    Lynette CribbInfection Control Coordinator

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    in reply to: Fwd: Western Pacific IPC Network Webinar (WPRO WHO) #76734
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    And here is the attachment

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    Posted on behalf of Peta-Anne Zimmerman – Moderator

    Please see below (and attached) the invitation to the next Western Pacific IPC Network Webinar with links to a registration form, recordings and .ppts from the meeting held on the 15th of April.

    The Western Pacific Infection Prevention and Control Network

    Webinar Series

    The World Health Organization Office of the Western Pacific Region Infection Prevention and Control Team invites you to attend the next Webinar meeting of the Western Pacific Infection Prevention and Control Network.

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    The Western Pacific Infection Prevention and Control Network

    Webinar Series

    The World Health Organization Office of the Western Pacific Region Infection Prevention and Control Team invites you to attend the next Webinar meeting of the Western Pacific Infection Prevention and Control Network.

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    in reply to: Re: COVID-19 theatre case #76720
    Michael Wishart
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    Hi Lalith

    No, not negative pressure. We were unable to balance the air handling systems on any specific theatre without majorly upsetting the surrounding areas (all our theatres are within one suite).

    We felt the risk of a closed theatre disseminating organisms was lower than messing up positive pressure in the rest of the theatre suite. Wherever possible we will be utilising local exhaust ventilation within a procedure to help mitigate the risk even more.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] COVID-19 theatre case

    G’day

    Is that a negative pressure theatre to stop any aerosols getting out to the corridors etc?

    We are looking at converting a positive pressure theatre to a -15Pa negative pressure theatre just for Covid19 patients.

    Our concern is introducing particles from outside to the sterile zone.

    Cheers

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    On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 11:26, Michael Wishart <Michael.Wishart@svha.org.au> wrote:
    We have dedicated a specific theatre for COVID-19 cases. There are gumboots for staff to wear as part of the PPE for this theatre, and they put the gum boots on as part of the PPE and remove them as part of removal of PPE.

    We thought about overshoes for all, but were concerned about staff forgetting they had them on and not removing/changing them. Gumboots are pretty obvious!

    Cheers
    Michael

    Michael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E

    St Vincents Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
    T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
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    From: Lynette Cribb <Lynette.Cribb@uchealth.com.au>
    Sent: Wednesday, 15 April 2020 10:56 AM
    To: acipclist@acipc.org.au
    Cc: Katherine Taylor <Katherine.Taylor@uchealth.com.au>; Carien Coleman <Carien.Coleman@uchealth.com.au>; Michael Wishart <Michael.Wishart@svha.org.au>; ‘Scott McDonald’ <Scott.McDonald@healthscope.com.au>
    Subject: COVID-19 theatre case
    Importance: High

    Morning,

    Just wanting to find out what hospitals are doing around COVID-19 positive patients and them going to theatre in particular around the theatre staff shoes?

    Any information with regards to this would be greatly appreciated.

    thanks

    With kind regards,
    Lynette CribbInfection Control Coordinator
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    SAWMH.ICC@uchealth.com.au | standrewshospital.com.au

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    in reply to: Re: air dryer gun on cannulated instruments #76681
    Michael Wishart
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    And here is the picture of the cabinet…

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    Michael

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    Hi Kerrin,

    It is not uncommon for a CSSD to have an air gun in the clean area. With change comes unexpected issues. Air guns were usually in the manual cleaning section of CSSD to enable flushing of cleaned cannulated items and assisted drying of anaesthetic items, even those that came out of washers.

    With the move to segregated areas through the use of pass through washers many facilities have put an air gun in the clean area as close as possible to where instruments are removed from dryers or washers as you are right they are often not well dried.

    There is a small risk of aerosol spray so in SA we have encouraged facilities to have a cabinet of for use of air guns. The air gun is passed through the back of the cabinet and the cabinet has sufficient room to lift the lid to put the RMD inside and handle the RMD and air gun. The short lid gives some user protection. There are commercial lab type cabinets that can be purchased as well although these often take a lot of room and are expensive.

    It is also recommended that a low lint wipe is on the floor of the cabinet to catch any contents flushed out. I haven’t seen staff wearing PPE in the clean area but this could be considered.

    I don’t know if there is an extra risk with Covid-19 but this cabinet protects staff from flushing body fluids in to the environment, although it is hoped that the RMD is cleaned well enough not to have any body fluid remnants, just water.

    If you can use your dryer and it works that is fine but it is not always easy to get droplets of water out of cannulated items.

    I shall try and find out if the Infectious Disease people have an opinion on Covid-19 and use fo air guns.

    Best wishes

    Sylvia

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    Good morning,
    I don’t understand how they are using the air gun post washer/disinfector. I have never seen an air gun in the packing area. Our washers do not totally dry some cannulated instruments however they are placed in the dryer in an upright position for 15 mins then retested to see if they are dry.
    We have decided that for any cases with confirmed Covid-19 the instrument trays will go through the washer/disinfector for thermal disinfection, prior to any other cleaning. The cycle will be manually aborted at the drying stage to enable them to be taken back out in the receive area. Then any brushing, flushing, ultrasonic etc as per manufacturers instructions will be carried out prior to them being put back through an entire cycle.

    Regards Kerrin

    Kerrin Maher RN BN
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    HI there

    I was asked by CSSD this morning regarding the use of our air dryer gun on cannulated instruments. Staff are still using this to dry cannulated instruments as the new washers drying cycle does not completely dry these instruments.

    I’m just wondering whether there is any advice on the use of this with covid19. They stated they had read one paper that did mention this but now find it.

    Any advice would be appreciated.

    Cate Coffey
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