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    Hi Cath

    I am not sure I can place my hand on my heart and say that our Australian / New Zealand Food Safety Standards (http://www.foodstandards.gov.au/) are actually fully based on evidence and supported by evidence, but they are certainly well accepted within the food industry and by the food industry regulators.

    Here is an example from NSW about food safe chemicals, which includes ‘hand sanitisers’… http://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/industry/food-business-issues/chemicals-suitability/

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Hi Michael
    Could you please provide a link of title of those “food safety recommendations” Michael. I’m keen to see what science they are based on.
    Cheers
    Cath

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    Hi Cath

    Food safety recommendations preclude use of non-food safe chemicals in the food processing environment, which precludes use of most alcohol based hand hygiene products and some antiseptic products. I do believe there are some waterless hand hygiene products (not sure if some of these should be considered ‘alcohol’ based, though) that are approved as ‘food safe’, but most of those alcohol based hand hygiene products routinely in use in healthcare have not been approved as ‘food safe’. Thus, the use of alcohol based hand hygiene products within certain parts of food services with healthcare facilities is problematic, which is why I think this is a good question, and I believe the responses have indicated this.

    In regard to mentioning of brand names, yes, we generally try to recommend avoiding use of brand names in discussions where possible, but this creates some work for both myself as the moderator and the list subscribers who are replying. Rather than bog the list down in administrative emails and such, I have preferred to weigh up the issue of posting of actual product names with the benefits of open discussion. For example, in this instance, my belief was it was useful to see which actual products are being used in what aspects of food service delivery (eg ward delivery vs food production), as this was conducive to the conversation. This approach had been supported by previous ACIPC / AICA executives, although like all things, this is open to review with further comments from the membership.

    It is always useful to examine what we are discussing, how we are discussing it, and what benefit and risk these discussions may have, so I thank you for your comments. More discussion is always welcomed!

    Cheers
    Michael Wishart
    Infexion Connexion Administrator

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    Hi Marlize

    I’m curious about the question and the responses. As I understand it there have been no scientific reports or official Australian public policy directives that suggest differentiating between what is available in public areas, in the wards where staff perform hand hygiene before feeding patients and/or in kitchens or food prep areas. I checked the WHO Guidelines from 2009 and they also appear to be silent on the issue.

    Given that one of the basic tenets to improve hand hygiene compliance is standardisation I would think it wise if you introduced or continued to use a neutral liquid soap identical to that used in the settings mentioned above. The key points are making sure kitchen staff understand the importance of HH as part of food hygiene, that they perform it when needed (including when on the ward if potentially exposed) and that their technique and wearing of gloves is performed in such a way that the skin on their hands is maintained. It would be an education rather than a product issue I think.

    As always I am surprised to see brand names mentioned here in the forum given its policies and conditions around promotion etc it would be more ethical to stick to using generic terms but perhaps the moderator can advise. Also my experience would indicate that if you raised the issue of HH for kitchen staff your current supplier of HH product would no doubt be able to provide you with data and information regarding suitability of their product in that setting.

    Good luck and thanks for making me curious 😉
    Cath

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    Dear All,

    We are currently looking for a alcohol based hand sanitiser to use in our Food Service Department. I was wondering what the practices are out there, and what product you are using in your Food Service Departments and on your food delivering trolleys?

    Thank you and regards

    Marlize Senekal
    Infection Prevention and Control Coordinator
    St. Andrew’s War Memorial Hospital
    457 Wickham Terrace, Spring Hill
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    in reply to: Hand sanitiser – Food Services #69654
    Michael Wishart
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    Hi Cath

    Food safety recommendations preclude use of non-food safe chemicals in the food processing environment, which precludes use of most alcohol based hand hygiene products and some antiseptic products. I do believe there are some waterless hand hygiene products (not sure if some of these should be considered ‘alcohol’ based, though) that are approved as ‘food safe’, but most of those alcohol based hand hygiene products routinely in use in healthcare have not been approved as ‘food safe’. Thus, the use of alcohol based hand hygiene products within certain parts of food services with healthcare facilities is problematic, which is why I think this is a good question, and I believe the responses have indicated this.

    In regard to mentioning of brand names, yes, we generally try to recommend avoiding use of brand names in discussions where possible, but this creates some work for both myself as the moderator and the list subscribers who are replying. Rather than bog the list down in administrative emails and such, I have preferred to weigh up the issue of posting of actual product names with the benefits of open discussion. For example, in this instance, my belief was it was useful to see which actual products are being used in what aspects of food service delivery (eg ward delivery vs food production), as this was conducive to the conversation. This approach had been supported by previous ACIPC / AICA executives, although like all things, this is open to review with further comments from the membership.

    It is always useful to examine what we are discussing, how we are discussing it, and what benefit and risk these discussions may have, so I thank you for your comments. More discussion is always welcomed!

    Cheers
    Michael Wishart
    Infexion Connexion Administrator

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    Hi Marlize

    I’m curious about the question and the responses. As I understand it there have been no scientific reports or official Australian public policy directives that suggest differentiating between what is available in public areas, in the wards where staff perform hand hygiene before feeding patients and/or in kitchens or food prep areas. I checked the WHO Guidelines from 2009 and they also appear to be silent on the issue.

    Given that one of the basic tenets to improve hand hygiene compliance is standardisation I would think it wise if you introduced or continued to use a neutral liquid soap identical to that used in the settings mentioned above. The key points are making sure kitchen staff understand the importance of HH as part of food hygiene, that they perform it when needed (including when on the ward if potentially exposed) and that their technique and wearing of gloves is performed in such a way that the skin on their hands is maintained. It would be an education rather than a product issue I think.

    As always I am surprised to see brand names mentioned here in the forum given its policies and conditions around promotion etc it would be more ethical to stick to using generic terms but perhaps the moderator can advise. Also my experience would indicate that if you raised the issue of HH for kitchen staff your current supplier of HH product would no doubt be able to provide you with data and information regarding suitability of their product in that setting.

    Good luck and thanks for making me curious 😉
    Cath

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    Dear All,

    We are currently looking for a alcohol based hand sanitiser to use in our Food Service Department. I was wondering what the practices are out there, and what product you are using in your Food Service Departments and on your food delivering trolleys?

    Thank you and regards

    Marlize Senekal
    Infection Prevention and Control Coordinator
    St. Andrew’s War Memorial Hospital
    457 Wickham Terrace, Spring Hill
    Brisbane
    Ph. 07-3834 4444
    Ext. 4328, Pg. 0328

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    in reply to: VRE Patient Fact Sheet in Cantonese #69637
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    Hi Julie

    I can’t see anything in Cantonese, but this Canadian site has one in Chinese. Not sure if that helps.

    http://vch.eduhealth.ca/PDFs/FG/FG.500.V279.CN.pdf

    The English equivalent is here: http://vch.eduhealth.ca/PDFs/FG/FG.500.V279.pdf

    Cheers
    Michael

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    —–Original Message—–

    Can anyone share or direct me to a site that has VRE Fact Sheets for patients in Cantonese.

    Regards

    Julie

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    in reply to: Preparation for insertion of IDC #69615
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    Hi Helen

    The latest US HICPAC guidance (http://www.cdc.gov/hicpac/pdf/CAUTI/CAUTIguideline2009final.pdf ) has this to say:

    C. In the acute care hospital setting, insert urinary catheters using aseptic technique and sterile equipment. (Category IB)

    Use sterile gloves, drape, sponges, an appropriate antiseptic or sterile solution for periurethral cleaning, and a single-use packet of lubricant jelly for insertion. (Category IB)

    1. Routine use of antiseptic lubricants is not necessary. (Category II) (Key Question 2C)

    1. Further research is needed on the use of antiseptic solutions vs. sterile water or saline for periurethral cleaning prior to catheter insertion. (No recommendation/unresolved issue) (Key Question 2C)

    D. In the non-acute care setting, clean (i.e., non-sterile) technique for intermittent catheterization is an acceptable and more practical alternative to sterile technique for patients requiring chronic intermittent catheterization. (Category IA) (Key Question 2A)

    Further research is needed on optimal cleaning and storage methods for catheters used for clean intermittent catheterization. (No recommendation/unresolved issue) (Key Question 2C)

    You may find acute vs community insertion, indwelling vs intermittent and HCW vs self-catheterisation guidelines vary.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Hi all,

    Can someone please give me the current guidelines (preferably evidence based) on the correct skin (area) prep prior to insertion of an IDC.
    We’ve received some new competencies and part of this one states washing the area with warm soapy water.
    I’m trying to think how you’d perform this aseptically with warm soapy water…

    A few hospital policies I’ve read from various states say the same, and some say there is no evidence to say cleansing the peri anal area with eg. chlorhex is beneficial.

    I don’t need paragraphs of evidence, just the facts and current guidelines if anyone has them please.

    Thank you,
    Helen.

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    in reply to: Re: Alcohol hand rubs #69613
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    Apologies to list subscribers for the previous message, it was sent in error.

    You’d think I could get this right by now! 🙂

    Cheers
    Michael Wishart
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    Michael Wishart
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    Hi Annette

    ACIPC requires that each message identifies the name, professional designation and organisational / corporate associations for each message.

    Since your message was more of a personal nature to Matthias I have copied to him, and not posted to the list.

    Thank you for your understanding, and support of Infexion Connexion.

    Cheers
    Michael Wishart
    ACIPC Infexion Connexion Administrator

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    Matthias, thank you so much for all the trouble you went to for us, your reply was exceptional. We are most grateful.

    Have a great xmas Matthias and a wonderful New Year!

    Kind regards,

    Annette.

    P.S. Sorry, I meant “choose” and “EN 12791” (instead of 81). Typed too quickly.


    Matthias Maiwald, MD, FRCPA
    Consultant in Microbiology
    Adj. Assoc. Prof., Natl. Univ. Singapore
    Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine
    KK Women’s and Children’s Hospital
    100 Bukit Timah Road
    Singapore 229899
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    Dear Annette,

    I assume you are referring to alcohol hand rub in terms of surgical hand antisepsis (“surgical scrubbing”), not to alcohol hand rub beteen patients, such as in the 5 Moments. Correct?

    There is no requirement for a surgical hand wash between alcohol-based surgical hand antisepsis procedures. The only requirement for a soap/detergent (plus water) based hand wash in terms of surgical hand antisepsis is when the hands are dirty/soiled before alcohol-based surgical hand antisepsis. (See WHO Hand Hygiene Guidelines 2009, pages 54-60). Such a situation may arise, for example, before alcohol hand antisepsis for the first procedure of the day when staff come into OT from outside. In some institutions it is therefore standard practice (in terms of unifying/standardising OT procedures) to do a hand wash (followed by towel drying) — including cleaning under fingernails — before doing alcohol hand antisepsis for the first procedure.

    The film/residue left after alcohol hand rubbing depends very much on the product that is used, and on user preference as to when they feel it gets too sticky for them. Some products leave a lot of sticky residue on hands, and the very good, top products leave very little to no sticky residue (film) and can be used for hand antisepsis consecutively for quite a number of procedures. Because there is no Australian standard for alcohol-based surgical hand antisepsis, and because US standards have not been specifically tailored towards alcohol-based surgical hand rubs, it is probably a good move to hoose a product that fulfills European standard EN 12781 (see also WHO guideline).

    Best regards, Matthias.


    Matthias Maiwald, MD, FRCPA
    Consultant in Microbiology
    Adj. Assoc. Prof., Natl. Univ. Singapore
    Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine
    KK Women’s and Children’s Hospital
    100 Bukit Timah Road
    Singapore 229899
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    Dear all,
    We would like to know if anyone can inform us please, on the recommended number of alcohol hand rubs you can utilise, before another full surgical hand wash is required when working in theatres.

    We have previously been informed for the alcohol rubs to be fully effective, that they cannot be utilised all day as they eventually leave a film on the skin. The intermittent washing of hands with soap and water is therefore deemed necessary to remove the film before continuing with the use of the alcohol hand rub.

    We look forward to your response and thank you for your time.

    Kind regards,

    Annette Kennedy
    DDON
    Skin & Cancer Foundation Australia Day Care Procedure Centre
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    in reply to: Observational Audit Tools for IV Cannulation #69565
    Michael Wishart
    Participant

    Author:
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    Hi all

    Steve Burke, the Operations Manager for ACIPC, has said he is happy to host files on the ACIPC website if there are no copyright or intellectual property issues.

    Until a better process has been developed, I would suggest that anyone that has files to share should contact Steve directly (opsmanager@acipc.org.au), and then once uploaded to the ACIPC website, can post information to the list regarding where members can access them.

    ACIPC may also be able to provide the broader ACIPC membership with information on what files and tools are available via their regular e-Bulletins.

    Would suggest Rachel still contact ACIPC Board formally to ensure a correct process is established for sharing such tools, but in the interim this may be one option.

    Cheers
    Michael Wishart
    ACIPC Infexion Connexion Administrator

    Michael Wishart
    CNC Infection Control
    Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
    627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Thomson, Rachel EA (DHHS)
    Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2012 9:58 AM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: Observational Audit Tools for IV Cannulation

    Thanks Michael (and Matt),

    I will happily approach ACIPC and bring this idea forward!

    Cheers
    Rachel

    Rachel Thomson

    Nurse Unit Manager
    Infection Prevention & Control Unit
    Royal Hobart Hospital
    Ph: 03 62227882/8658
    E: rachel.thomson@dhhs.tas.gov.au

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Michael Wishart
    Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2012 10:42 AM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: Observational Audit Tools for IV Cannulation

    Hi Rachel

    I really think sharing such tools is a great idea!

    Unfortunately Infexion Connexion does not support attachments, so unless any files are hosted elsewhere, we cannot share them through this list.

    Maybe ACIPC could be approached to develop a portal that resources could be uploaded to, and then links could be posted on the list?

    Cheers
    Michael Wishart
    ACPCI Infexion Connexion Administrator

    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Thomson, Rachel EA (DHHS)
    Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2012 8:31 AM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: Observational Audit Tools for IV Cannulation

    Hi Rhea and others,

    So here is a thingit seems to me that quite a number of people may have a genuine interest in looking at your tool as discussed in a number of forums including the recent IC day in Melbourne. I wonder if you would be willing to post the tool through the Infexion Connexion list? Maybe others might like to do a similar thing so that people can build on their resources, share etc. Just a thought!!

    Cheers for now
    Rachel

    Rachel Thomson

    Nurse Unit Manager
    Infection Prevention & Control Unit
    Royal Hobart Hospital
    Ph: 03 62227882/8658
    E: rachel.thomson@dhhs.tas.gov.au

    [cid:image001.png@01CDC313.CF515020]
    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Helen Scott
    Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2012 8:34 AM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: Observational Audit Tools for IV Cannulation

    Hi, Can I also please have a look,
    Thanks,

    Helen Scott
    Infection Control Co-ordinator |
    Nurse Educator |
    Nepean Private Hospital
    Kingswood, NSW.
    Tel 02 4725 8758 | helen.scott@healthscope.com.au

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    >>> On 14/11/2012 at 5:08 pm, in message <0C876A281769DB4A91C9CFC6E68C65E80B704FCCA2@EMSCM006.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au>, “Moore, Genevieve (Health)” <Genevieve.Moore@HEALTH.SA.GOV.AU> wrote:
    Hi Rhea
    Can you please share these audit tools with me also as I have looking for an audit tool for IV for a while
    Thanks
    Genevieve

    Genevieve Moore

    Diabetes Educator

    Clinical Placement Coordinator

    Infection Control Link Nurse

    Southern Flinders Health – Crystal Brook Campus
    Country Health SA Local Health Network
    Edmund Terrace
    Crystal Brook SA 5523

    Tel: (08) 8636 1164

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of MARTIN, Rhea
    Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012 16:19
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: Observational Audit Tools for IV Cannulation

    Hi Craig,
    Would be happy to share audit tool with you. We use two, one audits insertion (use this in ED where there is plenty of action) and the other is a ward based audit tool which looks at management of IVs on the ward
    Rhea

    Rhea Martin
    Manager Infection Control Team
    Austin Health
    Studley Rd., Heidelberg
    Victoria, Australia 3084
    Phone 9496 5801
    Page 2556
    Mobile 0407 806 299

    From: Craig Boutlis [mailto:Craig.Boutlis@SESIAHS.HEALTH.NSW.GOV.AU]
    Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012 16:37
    To: MARTIN, Rhea
    Subject: FW: Observational Audit Tools for IV Cannulation

    Hi Rhea,

    I’m pretty sure that you would be on this email list but I thought I should forward this to you just in case. Would you be happy to share the audit tool that you presented at the recent Melbourne Infection Control education day? If so, would you mind cc’ing me in too?

    The NSW policy is out for review at the moment and I’m going to make sure that I contribute that we should be moving to credentialling statewide along the lines of your program (thanks for making me aware of it).

    Craig

    ________________________________
    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Joe-Anne Bendall
    Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012 4:12 PM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Observational Audit Tools for IV Cannulation
    Hi everyone

    I have a very keen medical officer who wants to be a champion for improving IV cannula insertion. Does anyone have an observational audit tool they would like to share?

    I have an observational audit tool for aseptic technique wound dressing I would be willing to swap for IV cannula insertion!

    Thanks

    Joe

    Joe-anne Bendall
    Infection Prevention and Control CNC
    Sydney Hospital and Sydney Eye Hospital
    8 Macquarie St
    Sydney 2000

    Phone: 93827199
    Mobile: 0418984255
    Fax: 93827510
    Page: 21552

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    in reply to: Observational Audit Tools for IV Cannulation #69555
    Michael Wishart
    Participant

    Author:
    Michael Wishart

    Email:
    Michael.Wishart@hsn.org.au

    Organisation:

    State:

    Hi Rachel

    I really think sharing such tools is a great idea!

    Unfortunately Infexion Connexion does not support attachments, so unless any files are hosted elsewhere, we cannot share them through this list.

    Maybe ACIPC could be approached to develop a portal that resources could be uploaded to, and then links could be posted on the list?

    Cheers
    Michael Wishart
    ACPCI Infexion Connexion Administrator

    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Thomson, Rachel EA (DHHS)
    Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2012 8:31 AM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: Observational Audit Tools for IV Cannulation

    Hi Rhea and others,

    So here is a thingit seems to me that quite a number of people may have a genuine interest in looking at your tool as discussed in a number of forums including the recent IC day in Melbourne. I wonder if you would be willing to post the tool through the Infexion Connexion list? Maybe others might like to do a similar thing so that people can build on their resources, share etc. Just a thought!!

    Cheers for now
    Rachel

    Rachel Thomson

    Nurse Unit Manager
    Infection Prevention & Control Unit
    Royal Hobart Hospital
    Ph: 03 62227882/8658
    E: rachel.thomson@dhhs.tas.gov.au

    [cid:image001.png@01CDC313.CF515020]
    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Helen Scott
    Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2012 8:34 AM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: Observational Audit Tools for IV Cannulation

    Hi, Can I also please have a look,
    Thanks,

    Helen Scott
    Infection Control Co-ordinator |
    Nurse Educator |
    Nepean Private Hospital
    Kingswood, NSW.
    Tel 02 4725 8758 | helen.scott@healthscope.com.au

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    >>> On 14/11/2012 at 5:08 pm, in message , “Moore, Genevieve (Health)” wrote:
    Hi Rhea
    Can you please share these audit tools with me also as I have looking for an audit tool for IV for a while
    Thanks
    Genevieve

    Genevieve Moore

    Diabetes Educator

    Clinical Placement Coordinator

    Infection Control Link Nurse

    Southern Flinders Health – Crystal Brook Campus
    Country Health SA Local Health Network
    Edmund Terrace
    Crystal Brook SA 5523

    Tel: (08) 8636 1164

    Fax: (08) 8636 2077
    Email: Genevieve.moore@health.sa.gov.au

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of MARTIN, Rhea
    Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012 16:19
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: Observational Audit Tools for IV Cannulation

    Hi Craig,
    Would be happy to share audit tool with you. We use two, one audits insertion (use this in ED where there is plenty of action) and the other is a ward based audit tool which looks at management of IVs on the ward
    Rhea

    Rhea Martin
    Manager Infection Control Team
    Austin Health
    Studley Rd., Heidelberg
    Victoria, Australia 3084
    Phone 9496 5801
    Page 2556
    Mobile 0407 806 299

    From: Craig Boutlis [mailto:Craig.Boutlis@SESIAHS.HEALTH.NSW.GOV.AU]
    Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012 16:37
    To: MARTIN, Rhea
    Subject: FW: Observational Audit Tools for IV Cannulation

    Hi Rhea,

    I’m pretty sure that you would be on this email list but I thought I should forward this to you just in case. Would you be happy to share the audit tool that you presented at the recent Melbourne Infection Control education day? If so, would you mind cc’ing me in too?

    The NSW policy is out for review at the moment and I’m going to make sure that I contribute that we should be moving to credentialling statewide along the lines of your program (thanks for making me aware of it).

    Craig

    ________________________________
    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Joe-Anne Bendall
    Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012 4:12 PM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Observational Audit Tools for IV Cannulation
    Hi everyone

    I have a very keen medical officer who wants to be a champion for improving IV cannula insertion. Does anyone have an observational audit tool they would like to share?

    I have an observational audit tool for aseptic technique wound dressing I would be willing to swap for IV cannula insertion!

    Thanks

    Joe

    Joe-anne Bendall
    Infection Prevention and Control CNC
    Sydney Hospital and Sydney Eye Hospital
    8 Macquarie St
    Sydney 2000

    Phone: 93827199
    Mobile: 0418984255
    Fax: 93827510
    Page: 21552

    Joe-Anne.Bendall@sesiahs.health.nsw.gov.au

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    Hi Melissa

    A good example of acronyms being used without reference! 🙂

    INS Infusion Nurses Society, and in this case Tim is referring to some guidelines / standards they produce.
    http://www.ins1.org

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    INS 2012 Guidelines recommend;
    Practice Criteria
    III. Primary Intermittent Infusions
    A. Primary intermittent administration sets should be changed every 24 hours. When an intermittent infusion is repeatedly disconnected and reconnected for the infusion, there is increased risk of contamination at the catheter hub, needleless connector, and the male luer end of the administration set, potentially increasing risk for catheter-related bloodstream infection. There is an absence of studies addressing administration set changes for intermittent infusions. In a meta-analysis of 12 randomized, controlled trials that supported increasing the time interval for administration set changes to 96 hours, at least 2 of the studies excluded administration sets used for heparin locked catheters and in sets disconnected for more than 4 hours. In several others, exclusions were not stated.1,5 (V)
    B. A new, sterile, compatible covering device should be aseptically attached to the end of the administration set after each intermittent use. The practice of attaching the exposed end of the administration set to a port on the same set (“looping”) should be avoided.1,5 (V)
    REFERENCES
    1. Hadaway L. Infusion therapy equipment. In: Alexander M, Corrigan A, Gorski L, Hankins J, Perucca R, eds. Infusion Nursing: An Evidence-Based Approach. 3rd ed. St Louis, MO: Saunders/Elsevier; 2010:391-436.
    2. Gillies D, O’Riordan L, Wallen M, Morrison A, Rankin K, Nagy S. Optimal timing for intravenous administration set replacement. Cochrane Database Syst Rev. 2005;(4):CD003588.
    3. Rickard CM, Lipman J, Courtney M, et al. Routine changing of intravenous administration sets does not reduce colonization or infection in central venous catheters. Infect Control Hosp Epidemiol. 2004;25;650-655.
    4. Raad I, Hanna HA, Awas A, et al. Optimal changing of intravenous administration sets: is it safe to prolong use beyond 72 hours? Infect Control Hosp Epidemiol. 2001;22(3):136-139.
    5. Institute for Safe Medication Practices. Failure to cap IV tubing and disconnect IV ports place patients at risk for infections. Medication Safety Alert! Published July 26, 2007. Accessed June 17, 2010.
    Timothy R. Spencer, RN, APN, DipAppSci, Bach.Health, ICCert.
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    Dear all,
    I would be interested in knowing how other organisations manage the issue surrounding the frequency of replacement for IV administration sets when they are used intermittently. The 2011 CDC ‘Guidelines for Prevention of Intravascular Catheter Infections’ mark this as an unresolved issue.
    My experience has been that many organisations discard after 24 hours (ritual or evidence based??).
    Our packaging is marked with [symbol meaning DO NOT REUSE] indicating it is intended to be used on an individual patient during a single procedure and then discarded.
    I would be interested in your views.
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    Hi Sony

    There are many useful guidelines that cover infection control issues of ice machines, including:

    http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5210a1.htm

    http://www.seslhd.health.nsw.gov.au/Policies_Procedures_Guidelines/Clinical/Infection_Control/Documents/SESLHNPD104-IceForHumanConsumption.pdf

    http://www.newcastle-hospitals.org.uk/downloads/policies/Infection%20Control/Watercoolerspolicy200609.pdf

    The last one from the UK simply suggests some thoughts along the appropriate use of ice machines.

    Hope these help.

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    My hospital is preparing for hospital accreditation, and I would like to have information related to infection control measures for ice machines. If so, would you please send to me for reference.

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    in reply to: Dressing Trolleys in Aged Care Facilities #69501
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    Hi Matt

    My only concern about procedure trolleys would be the management of them between patients. If they do not get cleaned between each patient and are travelling from room to room, that is an issue. As long as there is good evidence that trolleys were being cleaned between patients, it should not be an issue. Maybe including this in a routine audit would satisfy the surveyors.

    In a facility that has trouble cleaning the trolley between patient uses I would also have serious questions about the appropriate cleaning of overways before procedures! That would not be a suitable solution, in my view.

    I do think this question raises questions about accreditation processes in regard to infection control in aged care facilities, though.

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    Hi All,
    It has been suggested to me that dressing trolleys should not be used in aged care facilities as this reduces the homely nature of the facility and can put the facility at risk in relation to their accreditation. Instead the facility wants to use the bedside table or bed to lay out the sterile field. I have a number of concerns about this, both from an OH&S and infection prevention point of view. Has anyone else come across this argument before?
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    in reply to: RE Cleaning Trollies #69497
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    Hi Jenny

    Interesting they actually are asking this! We do have lockable storage sections on the cleaners trolleys for chemicals, but no-one actually locks them (not even sure they would know where the keys are!!). The cleaners all store their trolleys in the locked cleaners rooms at the end of the day. I do see ‘abandoned’ trolleys in the ward corridors at times (ie unattended whilst the cleaner is elsewhere temporarily), so I suppose this could constitute a risk. I cannot imagine the cleaners locking their storage lockers on the trolleys every time they go to the loo, though! Not in the wards, at least, where there are many other staff around; it may be something that should be checked for public access areas without other staff routinely present though.

    Good luck with finding a solution to that one. Maybe you need to seek clarification from your assessors to see exactly what they require.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Hi

    I have a query for the group. Recently in a tier 1 audit with ISO the surveyor queried why we did not have lockable cleaning trolleys .
    The trolleys are used for general ward cleaning and have minimal amount of chemicals on them in very small amounts.
    Although this is more an OH&S issue is does impact on ICC’s who are involved in environmental services.
    I was wondering if anyone else had been asked the same question or have been required to lock chemicals up on the cleaning trolleys.
    Our main chemical storage is locked as are all designated cleaners rooms .
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    Hi Fiona

    My suggestion would be to look at removable drain outlet covers that can be removed and cleaned separately, if possible, if this is the major concern. I am not a big fan of using regular hypochlorite when it is not needed, both from an OH&S perspective and a surface maintenance perspective.

    Also, the risk of protein material left in the drain being introduced into a clean filled bath should also be checked. How is the drain outlet blocked before filling? Is there a risk from backflow of water / material into the bath from the drain outlet? Enlisting the advice of an engineer of even a plumber may be of use, as there may be other solutions.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Thanks Michael,

    The baths are smooth surface. And the biggest area of concern is the waste outlet and potential proteinaceous contamination of it.

    Kind regards,

    Fiona De Sousa
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    Hi Fiona

    Is there any reason why these baths would not be easy to physically remove proteins with detergent and water after each use? Are they tiled, have below bath plumbing, or any other non-continuous smooth surfaces? Do they have non-removable drain strainers which can retain proteinaceous material which you are concerned about? Are you concerned about the cleaning process between each patient use?

    It would only be for those reasons I would suggest a hypochlorite product would be required in the cleaning process.

    My thoughts, anyway.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    We are currently reviewing our cleaning policy for baths in the labour and delivery suite of maternity. At present bleach is used (in a three step process) in case of blood contamination. This has been questioned with a suggestion that our standard bathroom product is sufficient. I would appreciate hearing from other facilities about the type of products they use to clean / disinfect their baths.

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    in reply to: Cleaning Baths in Maternity Units #69485
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    Oops, let me clarify one point I made. I meant below bath plumbing that returns water to the bath (eg spa jets). I didn’t mean just a normal one-way drain!

    Thanks
    Michael

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    Hi Fiona

    Is there any reason why these baths would not be easy to physically remove proteins with detergent and water after each use? Are they tiled, have below bath plumbing, or any other non-continuous smooth surfaces? Do they have non-removable drain strainers which can retain proteinaceous material which you are concerned about? Are you concerned about the cleaning process between each patient use?

    It would only be for those reasons I would suggest a hypochlorite product would be required in the cleaning process.

    My thoughts, anyway.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Hi List members,

    We are currently reviewing our cleaning policy for baths in the labour and delivery suite of maternity. At present bleach is used (in a three step process) in case of blood contamination. This has been questioned with a suggestion that our standard bathroom product is sufficient. I would appreciate hearing from other facilities about the type of products they use to clean / disinfect their baths.

    Kind regards
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    Sydney Adventist Hospital
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    185 Fox Valley Road, Wahroonga, NSW, 2076

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    in reply to: Cleaning Baths in Maternity Units #69484
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    Hi Fiona

    Is there any reason why these baths would not be easy to physically remove proteins with detergent and water after each use? Are they tiled, have below bath plumbing, or any other non-continuous smooth surfaces? Do they have non-removable drain strainers which can retain proteinaceous material which you are concerned about? Are you concerned about the cleaning process between each patient use?

    It would only be for those reasons I would suggest a hypochlorite product would be required in the cleaning process.

    My thoughts, anyway.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Hi List members,

    We are currently reviewing our cleaning policy for baths in the labour and delivery suite of maternity. At present bleach is used (in a three step process) in case of blood contamination. This has been questioned with a suggestion that our standard bathroom product is sufficient. I would appreciate hearing from other facilities about the type of products they use to clean / disinfect their baths.

    Kind regards
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    in reply to: Portable fans #69470
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    Hi Gerard

    I recall seeing a study years ago, I think UK based so maybe in JHI, that showed MRSA in dust on portable fans. Never have seen anything that linked increase in MRSA or HAI directly to portable fans, though; that would be epidemiologically difficult to show, I think. Too many other variables.

    Doesn’t mean fans are not bad, though. 🙂 Especially when not maintained well. Ask if they cleaned thoroughly (meaning the fan blades) between each patient use. I suspect not!

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Dear all,

    I’m looking for evidence to back us up on not having fans in patient rooms (especially seeing that summer is around the corner).

    I can’t seem to locate any supportive articles on this.

    Has there been any studies done that demonstrate an increased rate of infection/colonisation (MRSA, MSSA, etc.) through fan usage in a healthcare setting?

    Cheers,
    Gerald

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