[mgoodson mgoodson]

Dear All,
I’m reading the development of the conversation about who could take an
IPC role with interest.
If other health professionals can take over the role of the RN IPC
person, let’s have
an RN running the Haematology department or the Microbiology department.
After all, if skill mix is so transferable, why not allow RN’s to run
pathology departments.
The departments are all automated these days and I’ve heard many
pathology staff
complain it’s so boring pushing a calibration button or an analyse
button and just
waiting for the results to print off. And while we’re at it, RN’s can
take over the role
of podiatrists too. RN’s study anatomy, do a basic surgery rotation,
know well how to
set up and use small instrument trays, so couldn’t someones’ example of
a Podiatrist being an
excellent IPC appointee be argued toward an RN being an excellent
Podiatrist.
The answer is no, the skills are not transferable across health
professional roles.

I know the difference. I trained as an RN, specialised in Intensive
care, then went and studied
my Clinical Laboratory Science degree in the medical sciences and as
both an RN and
Laboratory Scientist, I can say a laboratory scientist is not a suitable
appointee as an
IPC person in a hospial with a role across patient care planning, acuity
understanding,
family interaction, advising on antibiotic stewardship wrt past Hx,
current treatment and
changes of care. The statement already given that IPC positions need to
be opened up to
other health professionals because it cuts out other health care
professionals’ career options
is superficial and invalid when considering the different Allied Health
Care preparation and
skill mix. Wanting to fill a vacant position by changing the role
requirement to open it up
to other allied health persons is not a professional nor safe course of
action.
The conversation promoting the ACIPC to ‘get behind’ the push for
non-RN’s
to be appointed to ICP roles is a huge red flag and I’d think the
Medical Insurance companies,
the ANF, the State nursing unions, all AHPRA registered nurses, RN
members of the ACIPC,
and Nurse Advisors to the Ministers in all States would have a few
things to say about that idea.
I don’t support Allied Health professionals and Laboratory Scientists
taking the ICP lead roles
in Australa health care facilities.

Margaret Goodson
RN(AHPRA), BAppSc(ClinLabSc),MEd,PhD(Ed),GCDRMed(UTS),
Intensive Care Cert(NSWCN), Stomal Therapy Cert (SydH),
CertIVTAE & LLN, MACIPC.
IPC Coordinator
Manly Waters Private Hospital
Manly, Sydney, NSW.

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Hi Sarah,
there are many issues in regards to the IPC lead role mandates, however
my experience has been that the federal government is not willing to
listen or change their stance on this matter.

Kind regards,
Kelly
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Sarah Gaines Hill
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2021 9:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] IPC lead role requirements

Thanks Fiona I am aware of this. The issue is nurses in aged care are
few and far between and therefore recruiting and using their time for IP
work is a huge struggle.
There needs to be a change in IP requirements in general to allow
non-nursing to perform the role as well.
Sarah

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> On Behalf Of Wilson, Fiona L (TIPCU)
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2021 9:44 AM
To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] IPC lead role requirements

Hello Sarah the site on the Australian Government website around IPC
leads in RACF does state that the IPC lead must be a nurse.
See
https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/infection-prevention-and-control-leads

for the specific requirements.

Regards

Fiona Wilson I Nurse Manager TIPCU
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> On Behalf Of Sarah Gaines Hill
Sent: Wednesday, 14 April 2021 1:13 PM
To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] IPC lead role requirements

Good Afternoon fellow Ips!
A few weeks ago there was some discussion in this forum about the
requirements for IPC leads at Aged Care facilities had to be RN/EN.
It was mentioned that there would be recommendations to change this. You
do not need to be an RN/EN to be a great IP. I have worked with many who
had a science degree but not licensed practitioners who were fantastic.
We are really struggling to fill positions that have been left as our
RN/EN pool is very small.
Does anyone remember the discussion or have a response?
Is this something this college would be willing to get behind as a voice
to help aged care facilities with this. I believe this will be an
ongoing struggle if we are tied in this way.

Thanks
Sarah

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[mgoodson mgoodson]

Hello Everyone,
Some false eyelashes/eyelash extensions have stuck-on jewels down the
lash-they make a pretty pattern when
looking down, some people have dandruff on their eyelashes and desqumate
everytime they blink. An easy
fix is to wear a clear wrap-around eye protector/goggle or similar…
just a thought.
Kind regards
Margaret Goodson
IC CNC
Manly Waters Private hospital
Manly, NSW 2095.
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Eyelashes

Hi Michael,

We recently discussed this at Perth Childrens Hospital with our
Theatres Team and approached the situation in a similar manner.

I always appreciate/ enjoy your thoughts/responses on these
controversial IPC topics!

Thank you,

Dallas

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Sent: Friday, 24 July 2020 6:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Eyelash extensions – False
Eyelashes

Hi Deb

I think this is one of those areas with lack of evidence, and we need to
rely on first principles rather than assume its a problem

How are false eyelashes going to cause a problem during a procedure?
Even if there has been some lab study showing false eyelashes can be
colonised with higher levels of bacteria, what is your transmission
route? Unless the false eyelashes are a danger of falling into a
surgical field, I cannot see a transmission route appropriate hand
hygiene would not negate. Support and endorse appropriate hand hygiene,
not banning fashion because it is not perceived as OK for HCWs.

I think this issue should be sent back to the policy table as not being
supported by infection control as a risk, and they can come up with what
they want to do.

Too often policy makers look to blame infection control for their
actions (eg lanyards, shoe and sock colours, tattoos). We need to be
clear where the risks are and enforce those, not support cultural or
fashion dislikes.

Cheers
Michael (who, as you can see, is sick of getting blamed for every policy
change!)

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Dear Brains Trust

I have become aware of some nurses are wearing eyelash extensions,
Can anyone point me in the right direction for managing this concern-
especially in the theatre environment,

I suspect it will become a policy issue however I would like to have
some form of evidence or advice as to what other hospitals are doing

Thanks in advance

Deb

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[mgoodson mgoodson]

Hi Michael,
Yes, POC (point of care) testing is everywhere now, eg, home pregnancy
testing,
drug swab tests in Customs, BGL’s, SaO2 at the bedside etc.
A nice summary is at :https://jcm.asm.org/content/55/8/2313
Newer tech is looking at POC testing for bacterial DNA/viral RNA.
Cheers fromMargaret Goodson
BMedSc,MEd, PhDEd, GCDRMed, TCRN
MACIPC.

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Here we have a possible novel way to determine presence or absence of
some specific infections that can be done at the point of care no need
for a lab!

https://www.medgadget.com/2018/10/glow-in-the-dark-paper-test-rapidly-detects-infectious-diseases.html?utm_sourceThe+Medical+Futurist+Newsletter&utm_campaigncb40a0e7b6-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_10_09&utm_mediumemail&utm_term0_efd6a3cd08-cb40a0e7b6-420564705

Is this the future for infectious disease identification? Will we see
patients ordering these over the internet to do self-diagnosis?

Great for poor resource areas, though, if it can be shown to work
satisfactorily.

Cheers
Michael

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