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  • in reply to: Fit Testing #78738
    Maree Sommerville
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    Hello Cate,
    A recent survey conducted by VICNISS showed that about 50% of respondents who did the RPP were the Infection Control team and a very small subset of that team were employee health nurses.
    About 20% were occupational health team.
    The rest was made up by external contractors, staff on a return to work program, nurse unit managers or other senior nurses, a dedicated COVID team and allied health.
    Who to use for this role seemed to depend on a variety of factors of which included size and acuity of the health service and capacity of the IPC team.
    Maree

    Maree Sommerville
    Infection Control Consultant,
    VICNISS Coordinating Centre
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    HI everyone
    Could you advise if Respiratory Protection – Fit Testing programs are managed by the Infection Prevention and Control team in your organisation.
    Regards

    Cate Coffey
    RN BaAScN MPH&TM Grad Cert Infection Control Nursing
    Clinical Nurse Manager

    Central Australia Health Service
    Department of Health
    Northern Territory Government

    Infection Prevention and Control Unit
    Alice Springs Hospital
    PO Box 2234, Alice Springs, NT 0871
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    in reply to: Re: no touch infrared thermometers #77042
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    Hello Glenys,
    I have heard there were issues regarding the infrared temperatures.
    They have swung on to the market and are everywhere.
    Ripe for a validation study!

    Two things are possible:

    Infrared thermometers are inconsistent and do not report accurately

    Older people may not always present with a temperature when they have an infection (and in the examples you give, they may not have had one in the NH)

    Safer Care Victoria has produced a tool asking staff to report daily typical and non-typical symptoms. This then triggers a response.
    For your interest the link is below.
    https://www.bettersafercare.vic.gov.au/resources/tools/covid-19-screening-tool-for-residential-aged-care-services#goto-usingthe-covid-19-screening-tool
    Aged care services in Victoria have begun reporting this to SCV via a VICNISS portal this week.

    I am sure there are better articles on aged care and infection but the below link is a simple and quick 2 minute read.
    https://khn.org/news/seniors-with-covid-19-show-unusual-symptoms-doctors-say/

    Maree

    Maree Sommerville
    Infection Control Consultant
    VICNISS Coordinating Centre
    Doherty Institute | Level 2
    792 Elizabeth St Melbourne VIC 3000
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    Email: maree.sommerville@mh.org.au

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Glenys Harrington
    Sent: Tuesday, 21 July 2020 6:10 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] no touch infrared thermometers

    Hi Kelly,

    Thank for responding.

    Are you using the no contact thermometers on you patients or just screening at the entrance to your facility?

    Regards

    Glenys

    Glenys Harrington
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    Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of Kelly Barton
    Sent: Monday, 20 July 2020 8:59 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] no touch infrared thermometers

    Hi all,
    We are currently using the infrared contactless thermometers for several reasons for quite a while we couldnt get the probe covers for the tympanic thermometers as they were in very short supply. We have found them good as long as they are used correctly. They do not work well at the entrance screening points however, as the cold air coming into the building means they have to be constantly recalibrated. They also do not work well on cold skin. The infra net thermometers we are using are TGA approved and have been supplied by DHHS.

    Cheers,
    Kelly
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    Kelly Barton
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Glenys Harrington
    Sent: Saturday, 18 July 2020 10:47 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] no touch infrared thermometers

    Dear all,

    I note previous concerns about the accuracy of no touch infrared thermometers below.

    Has there been any recommendations in relation NOT using these thermometers in clinical areas?

    Think we are missing COVID-19 cases in aged care settings because of the use of such thermometers in this setting.

    Have had 2 recent confirmed COVID-19 residents who were afebrile at the facility but febrile on arrival at the hospital.

    Im looking for any specific directive that may have come out?

    Many thanks in anticipation.

    Glenys

    Glenys Harrington
    Consultant
    Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)
    P.O. Box 6385
    Melbourne
    Australia, 3004
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of Michael Wishart
    Sent: Wednesday, 4 March 2020 10:44 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Oral thermometer question

    Hi Sue

    We looked at contactless infrared contactless thermometers, but the actual temperature measurements provided were not considered accurate enough by our physicians.

    We use mainly infrared ear thermometers in our adult patients, with a probe cover, and wipe with a detergent wipe between uses.

    One of the advantages of an ear thermometer is that it does not come into contact with mucous membranes, and therefore the question about high level disinfection between patients is avoided.

    But I know there are physicians who will not rely upon infrared ear thermometer readings, although we find they tend to be quite accurate, provided they are taken correctly and the ear used is not inflamed.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of King, Sue
    Sent: Wednesday, 4 March 2020 9:15 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Oral thermometer question

    Hi all,
    Does anyone use contactless infrared thermometers?
    In the current environment it may seem prudent to use them.
    We use Covidien thermometers and go through 100 probe covers a day on one ward.
    It would be good to reduce the level of plastic discarded too.

    Regards,
    Sue

    Sue King
    Nurse Unit Manager/Infection Prevention and control

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of Angela Carvosso
    Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2020 2:59 PM
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    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Oral thermometer question

    Hi Debra,

    We use probe covers or the thermometers dont work anyway. I have always wiped them down with the cleaning wipe supplied to wipe down the rest of the obs machine. Its standard practice to clean between each patient. I would of thought if proper cleaning has been used with wipes rated to kill the microorganism and use of covers sufficient for general use with dedicated equipment wherever possible for people in isolation.

    Regards Angela Carvosso
    RN Warwick Health Services

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    From: Debra Lee
    Sent: Monday, 2 March 2020 9:50 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Oral thermometer question

    Hi all,

    Has anyone else been asked if oral thermometers should undergo HLD to comply with 4187, as the probe comes in contact with a mucous membrane?
    There is heightened awareness around COVID 19 transmission and it was raised that a probe cover is not considered sufficient protection without HLD for other sites

    If you could please let me know what processes do others use for cleaning of oral thermometer probes between each patient?

    Kind regards,

    Debra Lee
    Clinical Nurse Consultant
    Infection Management and Prevention Service
    West Block Ground floor
    Redcliffe Hospital
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    in reply to: Negative Pressure – Operating Theatres #76916
    Maree Sommerville
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    Hello Fiona,
    Below is a summary of my assessment and the sections of relevant documents (see attachments) which led to my view.
    I should add, I did discuss with other health professionals as well.
    Ultimately you/your team will need to decide.
    In my personal experience I have known patients to require surgery who have had an airborne transmissible disease (TB & chickenpox ) and we have not changed air handling in the operating room.
    I would be asking the question that given the low community transmission, is this really necessary?

    1. Building code references

    a. Maintenance standards for critical areas in Victorian health facilities

    i. Describe the pressure gradients for operating rooms between 9-30 pa (p 34)

    b. Australian Health Facility Guidelines- Part D Infection Prevention and Control (p 16)

    i. Combining alternating pressure rooms (either -ve or +ve) is not recommended ( this refers to isolation rooms but the risks remain for any clinical area) There are other documents defining OR as +ve pressure to protect the pt.

    1. the difficulty in the configuration of appropriate airflow for two fundamentally different purposes;

    2. the risk of operator error;

    3. the need for complex engineering; and

    4. the absence of failsafe mechanisms

    ii. My view-air pressures have changed.

    1. Hepa filters for +ve pressure are mounted after the supply air so clean air enters the room. HEPA filters for -ve pressure rooms are located on the return air. Have the filters been altered in anyway or were there HEPA filters already located on the return air?

    2. Have the rooms been checked by an air engineer (or whatever they are called)?

    2. Two papers (these are highly technical articles. One of them says that the benefit may not be for those in the theatre but for those outside, in corridors and adjoining rooms however this is not supported in the document. Refer then to the UK guideline below)

    a. Chow TT, Kwan A, Lin Z, Bai W. Conversion of operating theatre from positive to negative pressure. Journal of Hospital Infection (2006) 64, 371-378

    i. “In principle, a positive pressure operating theatre with adequate air changes could quickly eliminate the virus from the environment, and it has been shown that the risk of cross-contamination from airborne is low if staff are adequately protected with appropriate PPE”.

    b. Park J, Yoo SY, Ko JH, Lee SM, Chung YJ, Lee JH, Peck KR, Min JJ. Infection Prevention Measures for Surgical Procedures during a Middle East Respiratory Syndrome Outbreak in a Tertiary Care Hospital in South Korea. Scientific Reports (2020) 10:325

    i. “Overall the risk of cross-contamination from airborne infection is low if staff are adequately protected with appropriate PPE….”

    3. UK guidelines

    a. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/wuhan-novel-coronavirus-infection-prevention-and-control/reducing-the-risk-of-transmission-of-covid-19-in-the-hospital-setting
    8. Operating theatres (where these continue to be used for surgery)
    It is recommended that ventilation in both laminar flow and conventionally ventilated theatres should remain fully on during surgical procedures where patients may have COVID-19 infection. Air can bypass filtration if a respirator is not fitted perfectly or becomes displaced during use. Those closest to aerosol generation procedures are most at risk. The rapid dilution of these aerosols by operating theatre ventilation will protect operating room staff. Air passing from operating theatres to adjacent areas will be highly diluted and is not considered to be a risk.

    In summary, if staff comply with the correct PPE no changes need to be made to the operating room pressures.

    Regards
    Maree

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    VICNISS Coordinating Centre
    Doherty Institute | Level 2
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    Hi All,

    In response to COVID, and for future planning I have been asked to consider the creation of a negative pressure operating theatre for use in emergency surgery for a COVID positive case (e.g. C-section, post MVA).

    I am aware that this is against the usual recommendations which are for positive pressure operating theatre to reduce risk of Surgical Site Infection. However it has been raised with me that the risk of unexpected intubation of a COVID positive patient in a positive pressure theatre puts staff at risk.

    I am interested in how other facilities are responding to this issue and balancing risk to staff with risk to patient.

    Kind regards,

    Fiona De Sousa CICP-E| Nurse Manager | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
    Launceston General Hospital, Level 2, Launceston TAS 7250
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    Maree Sommerville
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    Maree Sommerville

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    Hello all (and thanks Denise for the information),

    Out of curiosity I completed the basic infection control course (orientation).
    Over time I will attempt to do all the courses on offer.

    I would be interested to know if others who have completed the course have seen the mistakes I noted.
    I have sent my comments to the ACSQHC for review.

    There are 7 or 8 errors and presentation flaws (from my viewpoint).
    One of which refers to changing a catheter when it should say emptying a catheter bag.
    Others relate to the use of PPE.
    The target audience says it is appropriate for other industries such as beauty therapists and tattooists but I see very little of relevance to this group.

    Recommend you do the course before recommending it to staff just to see if it aligns with your health services processes.
    Of course, I could be way off the mark.
    Look forward to your comments.

    Maree
    PS the link in previous email does not work for me but the one below does.
    https://nhhi.southrock.com/cgi-bin-secure/Home.cgi?msecs=df9af0a89bf1b8b4ce84b34f91383508&amp;

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    Dear Denise

    Thank you for emailing the NSQHS Standards advice line to ask about the IPC module for orientation of HCWs.

    The orientation modules have been unavailable for the past few weeks due to a review. The Commission will be releasing a new Infection Prevention and Control module soon which will replace the previous three modules. They will be suitable for both clinical and non-clinical staff and will be free to register and complete. We anticipate that the new module will go live by the end of February. The module will be available through our infection prevention and control eLearning platform: nhhi.southrock.com

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    in reply to: Education Modules for basic RMD knowledge #76081
    Maree Sommerville
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    Author:
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    Kate,
    Cathryn Murphy discussed an Ultrasound toolkit at an ACIPC conference (Brisbane I think)
    She made it freely available
    https://www.ultrasoundinfectionprevention.org.au/

    I would recommend you get in touch with SRACA http://www.sracavic.org.au/
    Sterilising Research and Advisory Council of Australia (Victoria) Inc.) is the professional body of sterilising technology practitioners.

    Maree Sommerville

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    Dear colleagues,
    I have started in new role as Reusable Medical Devices (RMD) Program Officer at Austin Health. This is a brand new position, and in conjunction with the new RMD manager, we aim to coordinate all activities involving RMD across our whole health service to improve patient safety. As a result I am seeking knowledge on a couple of topics so as to not try and reinvent the wheel!

    Does anyone have a similar type of position(s) at their health service? If yes, would you be able to get I touch and share your learnings?

    Has anyone created an online learning module specifically to instil basic knowledge of RMDs for all staff? If yes, are you able to share your content or an overview of topics covered if not the whole content?

    Has anyone created an online learning module specifically to address ultrasound reprocessing following the ASUM guidelines?

    Has anyone recently installed a tracking system for RMD for the whole health service but specifically with a ward based focus? Are you able to get in touch off line and share the company details and reasons you chose the system you did?

    Thanks in anticipation of being inundated with amazing work going on by our IC community 🙂

    Kind regards

    Kate Ryan

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    in reply to: Babies die from contaminated breast milk #76007
    Maree Sommerville
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    Hi Michael,
    I have some experience with the breast milk bank (BMB) in Victoria.
    The BMB was required to adhere strictly to the Victorian Human Tissue Act and the Victorian Food Act.
    I am sure the requirements for other states will be equally as stringent.
    I am unclear as to how the TGA should be involved in the regulation of a BMB if the state requirements are so stringent.
    Would you please elaborate?

    My reading of the article is that the contamination occurred in the nursery with an accepted practise (within that unit) of hand washing measuring equipment at the cot side rather than in the pasteurisation/bottling & dispensing process from the BMB.
    The take home message for me would be ensure an effective cleaning process is in place that meets food handling requirements.

    What I find worrying in the news item is that the source of pseudomonas is not clearly stated.
    The measuring device is washed by hand so does this imply there is contamination in the tap water or are the devices stored in such a way to facilitate contamination?
    Did they genotype the pseudomonas?
    Would such a long standing seemingly insidious practise of hand washing a measure be missed by our Infection Control teams?
    What other potentially dangerous but small practises are missed?
    Lots of questions with this one!!! I am sure the legal case will sort out these details.

    Meanwhile 3 babies did not make it home.
    It underlines the importance of good Infection Control practises.

    Maree

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    This tragedy in the US will be of interest to those with facilities with neonatal and maternity units.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/11/08/infants-died-after-being-fed-infected-breast-milk-hospital-kept-admitting-babies-anyway-lawsuit-alleges/?fbclidIwAR0TKIMpORcX0ptAQCFIdrTClcuMunqmihHdjjrW8Ay1PDDJG_rAR3cR_fY

    The regulation of breast milk ‘banks’ under the TGA will help to prevent this sort of issue within Australia, hopefully.

    Another reminder that basic cleaning and disinfection of equipment is never to be taken for granted.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    in reply to: Re: Seroma & SSIs #75854
    Maree Sommerville
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    Hello Holly,
    You may register with VICNISS as an external user.
    This will enable you to access the protocols and education components of the surgical site surveillance module (plus more).
    Look forward to hearing from you.
    Maree

    Maree Sommerville
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    Hi Holly,

    Here is the link to the NHSN Procedure-associated Module surgical site infection SSI. The definition for Superficial incisional SSI, Deep incisional SSI and Organ/Space SSI start on page 9
    https://www.cdc.gov/nhsn/PDFs/pscManual/9pscSSIcurrent.pdf

    In Victoria VICNISS collect data on SSI (based on the NHSN surveillance methods). If you contact them I’m sure they will be happy to share a copy of their VICNISS SURVEILLANCE MODULE, Surgical Site Infection (SSI), which includes criteria for defining SSI along with the surveillance methodology. Might be a useful resource for you.
    https://www.vicniss.org.au/

    regards

    Glenys

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    Dear Brains Trust,

    A question has cropped up in relation to seroma and surgical site infections.

    If one develops post-surgery, would it be classified as a complication and if it cultured an organism, then and would you class it as a SSI?

    Does anyone know of any evidence to support this or not?

    Thank you in advance for your wisdom.

    Kind Regards,

    Holly

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    in reply to: Distance to a pan room #75776
    Maree Sommerville
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    Hello Lesley,
    I am not sure if any-one has spelled out this specifically.
    Those pans can be mighty heavy and you have only one hand left to open the dirty utility having negotiated a busy corridor.

    If there is a new build or renovation in progress you may consider a pan flush that is built into the en suite and is plumbed in along with the normal toilet.
    More expensive but worth considering, particularly for rooms used for transmission based precautions.

    The Australian Health Facility Guideline
    Part C: Design for Access, Mobility, Safety and Security: 7.4 & 7.5 discuss Safe Design and Specific Safety considerations
    These may assist you in building your case.
    https://aushfg-prod-com-au.s3.amazonaws.com/Part%20C%2018%20Sept_4.pdf

    Safe Work Australia discuss safe design and ergonomics in the attached link
    https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/safe-design#five-principles-of-safe-design
    The information here may assist you in building a case even if you are investigating OHS risk in an existing structure.

    Let us know if you find something more specific.

    Maree Sommerville
    Infection Control Consultant
    VICNISS Coordinating Centre
    Doherty Institute | Level 2
    792 Elizabeth St Melbourne VIC 3000
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    Email: maree.sommerville@mh.org.au

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Lesley Lewis
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    Is any one aware of any document with specifications determining the maximum distance between the bedside and the nearest panroom? i.e. how far a HCW can be expected to carry a used bedpan or a macerator pan.
    I am based in Victoria but am happy to learn if there are specifications from other states.

    Lesley Lewis, Regional Infection Control Consultant, HRICRCS. Lesley.lewis@nhw.org.au

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