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  • in reply to: air dryer gun on cannulated instruments #76679
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    Good morning,
    I don’t understand how they are using the air gun post washer/disinfector. I have never seen an air gun in the packing area. Our washers do not totally dry some cannulated instruments however they are placed in the dryer in an upright position for 15 mins then retested to see if they are dry.
    We have decided that for any cases with confirmed Covid-19 the instrument trays will go through the washer/disinfector for thermal disinfection, prior to any other cleaning. The cycle will be manually aborted at the drying stage to enable them to be taken back out in the receive area. Then any brushing, flushing, ultrasonic etc as per manufacturers instructions will be carried out prior to them being put back through an entire cycle.

    Regards Kerrin

    Kerrin Maher RN BN
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    QEll Jubilee Hospital | Metro South Health
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    HI there

    I was asked by CSSD this morning regarding the use of our air dryer gun on cannulated instruments. Staff are still using this to dry cannulated instruments as the new washers drying cycle does not completely dry these instruments.

    I’m just wondering whether there is any advice on the use of this with covid19. They stated they had read one paper that did mention this but now find it.

    Any advice would be appreciated.

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    in reply to: Re: Reusable patient equipment #76608
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    Hi,
    If the manufacturers instructions deems them to be reusable and the instructions are given for the cleaning and reprocessing they can be reprocessed. However, CSD cannot reprocess single use items. Spacers are considered single patient use therefore cannot be reprocessed.
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    Kerrin Maher RN BN
    Nurse Unit Manager | Central Sterilising Department
    QEll Jubilee Hospital | Metro South Health
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of Lesley Alway
    Sent: Saturday, 28 March 2020 1:07 PM
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    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Reusable patient equipment

    Emily send to CSSD for high level disinfection in instrument washers.
    Cheers
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    On 28 Mar 2020, at 11:22 am, Emily Stewart <estewart@fsph.org.au> wrote:
    Hi
    I am a very fresh Infection Control Coordinator. Only 18 months into the role from a Surgical Nursing Background.
    I have had such a huge learning experience in this last two months!!
    I was not sure how to word this question, and am a little shy to post on the ACIPCLIST.
    Our ED NUM has asked if there are any products to disinfect spacers , so they can become shared equipment within our facility.
    As there is such a shortage and people still have asthma attacks.

    I have discussed with our pharmacist, regarding the cleaning process, but alas he only gave me information on how to clean them for continued one person use.
    Your guidance or help in the matter would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you
    Kind Regards

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    in reply to: orthopaedic screw ‘banks’ #76151
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    Hi,
    I am also following this with great interest. This issue has been raised and muted as being a risk however it appears to have lost momentum. This forum has reminded me to raise it again.

    Kind regards
    Kerrin

    Kerrin Maher RN BN
    Nurse Unit Manager | Central Sterilising Department
    QEll Jubilee Hospital | Metro South Health
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    Hi John,

    I read your post with great interest and glad someone is raising this issue!

    In my facility, I tried very hard to mandate individually packaged screws and I gave the companies 18 months to comply.
    I continued to harass the company reps on a weekly basis and constantly requested to know where they were up to with my bid to do away with screw banks.

    There was major resistance to change initially, probably more so from the surgeons than the nursing staff, but with time everyone learns to adjust.
    I am pleased with the progress we have been able to make in a short period of time. Although we are not entirely where we would like to be, we have certainly come along way given the high amount of screw banks we previously had. 3 years on, we still have further progress to make and I won’t stop until we get to where we need to be.

    One issue I probably didn’t address (or think about initially) was the need to have extra storage space when converting from screw banks to individually packaged screws however I have found the major companies are able to provide great storage solutions for these products (mobile towers on wheels).

    I fully understand the concerns you have raised in regards to the reprocessing of screws, traceability issues and matters pertaining to the integrity of the screws and the increased risk of breakages among other risks. These are the exact reasons why I started on my venture to making a change.

    I am aware that other countries have mandated the use of individually packaged screws and struggle to comprehend that Australia has not yet been able to achieve this. As an industry, we need to take a strong stance on this issue, stand up to these companies and demand a better service. I think a national approach on this issue would definitely assist in getting change to happen as we are way behind the rest of the world.

    I would be interested to know how others in the industry feel about making a change.

    Kind regards,

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    Can I learn from others about how you have managed these please? Has anyone got data on screw breakages?

    [ We have a large number of screw banks in use. These get replenished with new screws to replace those used. And so most of these screws go through an undocumented series of sterilisation cycles.

    Clear concerns include:

    1. The new screws have instructions for use that preclude resterilisation
    2. The AS4187 says we should track all reprocessed material like this and not reprocess ad infinitum
    3. That structural integrity of the screw is compromised (might be associated with breakages in patient ) There may be other deleterious changes to the material as well.

    The alternative to banks is dispensing individual screws as required by each case. Other countries have mandated such. More expensive – we are getting resistance to change!

    Thanks
    John
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    in reply to: Washable keyboards #76089
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    Hi,
    CSD use Clinell easy clean: The keyboard is a wee bit stiffer than normal, however still easy to use. They did a free trial with the hospital and they are now used on theatre, endo CSD etc.

    Regards Kerrin

    Kerrin Maher RN BN
    Nurse Unit Manager | Central Sterilising Department
    QEll Jubilee Hospital | Metro South Health
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    Hi ACIPC Colleagues,

    Our facility has launched electronic documentation and with that the use of computers on wheels. From an infection control point of view I’m recommending either covered or washable keyboards and mice.

    We’ve tried the ‘SteriClick’ keyboard and the feedback from users has been that the keys are so stiff and hard to push that staff are refusing to use them. For those of you using computers on wheels – what washable key boards and mice are you successfully using? or are you using covers and if so do they work? When I raised the possibility of using covers here feedback was that these would be flipped off and not used.

    Anyone have suggestions?

    Kind regards,
    Donna

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    in reply to: Re: Retention of Records in Sterilising Departments #75969
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    Hi,
    As a matter of interest I looked up Queensland retention records as it has been updated. Sterilising services has been omitted and now comes under patient records. Interestingly it states 15years from the last occasion of service!!!!! How do you determine the last occasion of service. Luckily most of our are now recorded electronically so not really an issue.
    Cheers Kerrin

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    Afternoon Joe,

    When I first came on to manage a CSSD in SA government hospital around 2010, I made similar enquiries to our State Records department. This was in part due to a towering pile of physical records in the sub-sub-basement of the building, going back many years and of dubious completion. The requirement in AS4187:2003 at the time was that sterilisation records should be “controlled and retrievable” and I had come upon a situation which was neither.

    The General Disposal Schedule for government health records made no reference to sterilisation and reprocessing, so I worked with a couple of officers in State Records to add something into the next version. AS4187 had already specified the list of documents which shall be kept in the running of a reprocessing facility, so we decided that the entry should read “…as required by Standards” or similar. That way, regulatory changes to the required documentation would just carry over.

    As for the retention period, the advice of State Records was that of a 15 year period.

    Section 3.8.2 of the GDS28 was the final product.

    We then had a wonderful time cataloguing, re-boxing and sending all of the records off for storage. Luckily the hospital where I am involved now has a fully electronic tracking system, so the volume of physical records is not only greatly reduced but we can make more of them electronic themselves.

    Regards,

    Andrew Ellis
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    Good morning everyone

    I have discussed the retention of records in sterilising departments with several people and I get different answers!

    I have checked NSW Records and their retention rules but they are not specific for sterilisation departments. They make blanket statements eg Quality Assurance (7 years), Accreditation (10years), Significant Investigations (State Archive).

    Does anyone have any more definitive information? Will it be different in each State/Territory?

    Thank you
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    in reply to: Retention of Records in Sterilising Departments #75962
    kerrin Maher
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    Good Afternoon,
    My understanding is that for traceability records for sterilising must be kept for 10 yrs.

    Cheers

    Kerrin Maher RN BN
    Nurse Unit Manager | Central Sterilising Department
    QEll Jubilee Hospital | Metro South Health
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    Good morning everyone

    I have discussed the retention of records in sterilising departments with several people and I get different answers!

    I have checked NSW Records and their retention rules but they are not specific for sterilisation departments. They make blanket statements eg Quality Assurance (7 years), Accreditation (10years), Significant Investigations (State Archive).

    Does anyone have any more definitive information? Will it be different in each State/Territory?

    Thank you
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    in reply to: Reprocessing baby feeding bottles #74873
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    Hi Liz,
    Sterilising Standards states you must have manufacturer’s instructions for any reusable medical device (RMD). I doubt you would find a bottle that specifically mentions CSD reprocessing. We no longer reprocess any item that is not classed as a RMD. Ie spoons

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    Hi everyone,

    Does anyone know where I could find governance on this?
    I could find anything from NSW Health nor the national guidelines.
    Is reprocessing of these bottles still acceptable?
    I am aware of the single use bottles, which is what is used in the Maternity Unit, however paediatric would prefer to reprocess theirs.
    I can only assume this would have to be via a low temperature sterilisation process in CSSD.
    Does anyone have any guidance around this?
    Your advice would be greatly appreciated.

    Cheers
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    in reply to: Cleaning Wiping Cloths #74797
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    Good morning,
    In Sterilising department lint free cloths must be used for all surfaces.

    Cheers Kerrin

    Kerrin Maher RN BN
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    Dear All

    I am currently working on a project looking at variations/ uniformity in the type of cloths used to wipe surfaces in healthcare settings. Specifically I am looking for any guidelines (local/ state/ national) that make any recommendations for specific types of cloths by specific tasks or surface type. For example are there different requirements for cloths used in bathrooms vs pt environment vs high-touch objects vs non-clinical areas within a hospital.

    I have access to the REACH study publications (thanks Brett) and other research from the Monash group (thanks Elisabeth Gillespie and team) but wonder if there are other requirements/ practices.

    Thank you for any feedback.

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