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    Hi Glenys

    I’m not sure I’d agree that the current Australian HH audit system is broke and parliamentary records are not necessarily representative of what is really going on ! We should remember what we had before HHA came into existence. In fact the load on infection control services has been minimised by training auditors who are link nurses etc. We now have such a brace of auditors that the main problem is keeping them credentialed. Our audits go across a large number of facilities each time and work pretty well like clockwork. We all have invested a lot of work in getting things to where they are and we have seen measurable gains in terms of SAB reduction etc. I think we should focus not on revolution but rather tinkering with the system.

    A huge issue to me is that we medicos are still largely allowed to operate in a parallel universe, with no real accountability system ensuring that we (in NSW at least) have even completed 5 moments training or shock/horror been competency assessed for HH, PPE or aseptic technique. Aside from the College of Surgeons, it seems that the other colleges are dodging and weaving still and that is where ACIPC and ASID should be pushing +++. For instance our medical advanced trainees still have no explicit expectation put on them by the RACP concerning expectations of inf control practice during exams etc. We allow doctors to get about in all sorts of gear (suits, coats etc) or theatre scrubs and no-one wants to say boo. Why can’t we adopt a bare below elbow standard nationally? Can we hear more about the Cognitive Institute’s recent aust. pilot into Vanderbilt style accountability systems please? Royal Melb Hosp has been part of that pilot.

    Other possible improvements:

    a) At one of our sites, we’ve had the experience of a well credentialed external auditor conducting most of the HH audits for the past two audits. We have seen compliance there fall considerably indicating to me that all locations should adopt an approach to auditing whereby auditors are always drawn from a different ward or hospital (proper independent auditing).

    b) We know also that the initial audit figures from a session are more indicative of actual practice and so, we should not allow for auditing at any site to go on for more than say 30 mins max.

    c) We should ensure that audits occur more frequently than thrice yearly and across all shifts with at least monthly feedback of data to cadres and managers

    d) Integrating HH auditing with AT audits

    e) More careful operational research – what is working , what is not, how valid are results, what effects are improvements in HH having, why are medicos not getting engaged with the system? etc

    Best wishes
    John

    Dr John Ferguson MBBS DTM&H FRACP FRCPA
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    Dear All,

    There was a debate in the UK parliament, Westminster Hall on 15/5/2018 in relation to hand hygiene compliance.

    The parliament was told that actual hand hygiene compliance is only 18% – 44% in the UK and that direct observation is grossly overestimating HH compliance rates (Hawthorn effect).

    https://goo.gl/7D4zTD

    The discussion has implications for direct observation of hand hygiene compliance programs in Australian healthcare settings.

    It is time to review our direct observation HH compliance strategies and the significant infection control resources committed to such programs across Australia.

    Regards

    Glenys

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    in reply to: Blastocystis hominis infection #73618
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    Hi all,

    My colleague Dr Hema Varadhan wrote a nice guest posting the other month on blastocystis – https://aimed.net.au/2016/11/18/blastocystis-commensal-or-culprit-do-i-really-care/

    Certainly no sense in isolation and no inf control issues per se

    It is highly prevalent in children , dependent on what method is used to detect- probably normal flora in fact!

    John

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    Subject: Blastocystis hominis infection

    Dear all,

    Is there any information on management of blastocystis hominis in health care facilities? particularly on isolation.

    any kind of information will be helpful

    Thank you
    Newnit Madan
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    Sir Moses Montefiore Jewish Home
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    in reply to: MRO clearance or de-activation #72592
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    Hi Janet

    Our MRO PCP which you will know is available via the bottom of this page- http://aimed.net.au/infection-control/ – clearance criteria are there for MRSA and VRE – we’ve simplified these to a 6 mth event – excerpts below – those with chronic carriage in wounds (risk factor for chronic carriage) detected by culture of same
    Allen Cheng’s recent VRE carriage paper worth a read http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23039285
    Kluytman review worthwhile
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21366406 Swiss study – similar to older Dutch literature ; however strain specific influence
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24393651 MSSA carriage in UK

    Kind regards
    John

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    Dr John Ferguson MBBS DTM&H FRACP FRCPA
    Microbiologist | Pathology North, NSW Pathology
    Infectious Diseases Physician | Immunology and Infectious Diseases Unit
    John Hunter Hospital, Locked Bag 1, Newcastle Mail Centre, NSW 2310, Australia
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    Hi all

    We are reviewing our management of multi-resistant organisms and in particular the process to determine someone is cleared (organism not expected to return) or de-activated (organism may return, particularly with antibiotic pressure).

    We would be interested to know what other facilities have in place, particularly paediatrics.

    Do you have any useful references which guide your practice?

    Regards

    Janet

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    in reply to: MRSA colonised healthcare workers #72573
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    Here is our info sheet

    Hi Kirsty

    Our Current MRO/ C difficile protocol is reflected here for http://aimed.net.au/infection-control/ (bottom of page) See section E2.10 Screening of healthcare workers for MROs

    We also have an info sheet for MRSA colonised staff that I just cant put my hands on

    Kind regards
    John

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    Hi all
    On the Central Coast we are currently reviewing our Guidelines and Procedures on the management of healthcare workers with positive MRSA pathology.
    We would really appreciate it anybody had current guidelines and procedures that they are willing to share and send to us for review. Any advice from your ID with regard to what you do if decolonisation programs are unsuccessful and what is the management for HCWs in these situations?
    Thank you in advance for any information you can provide.
    Kind regards

    Kirsty Graham
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    Infection Prevention and Control Unit
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    in reply to: MRSA colonised healthcare workers #72555
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    Hi Kirsty

    Our Current MRO/ C difficile protocol is reflected here for http://aimed.net.au/infection-control/ (bottom of page) See section E2.10 Screening of healthcare workers for MROs

    We also have an info sheet for MRSA colonised staff that I just cant put my hands on

    Kind regards
    John

    Dr John Ferguson MBBS DTM&H FRACP FRCPA
    Microbiologist | Pathology North, NSW Pathology
    Infectious Diseases Physician | Immunology and Infectious Diseases Unit
    John Hunter Hospital, Locked Bag 1, Newcastle Mail Centre, NSW 2310, Australia
    T: 61 2 49214444 | F: 61 2 49214440 | M: +61(0)428 885573 (Speed Dial 67607) | Tw @mdjkf

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    Hi all
    On the Central Coast we are currently reviewing our Guidelines and Procedures on the management of healthcare workers with positive MRSA pathology.
    We would really appreciate it anybody had current guidelines and procedures that they are willing to share and send to us for review. Any advice from your ID with regard to what you do if decolonisation programs are unsuccessful and what is the management for HCWs in these situations?
    Thank you in advance for any information you can provide.
    Kind regards

    Kirsty Graham
    Nurse Manager
    Infection Prevention and Control Unit
    Central Coast Local Health District
    kirsty.graham@health.nsw.gov.au

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    Dear Sony

    It would appear to be an ideal use of the technology – esp high vapour pressure methods.
    Proven safety with electrical gear and will decontaminate everything else it can get to.
    Being such a closed space, the process will be quicker than for a usual room.

    Regards
    John

    Dr John Ferguson MBBS DTM&H FRACP FRCPA
    Director, Infection Prevention Service | Hunter New England Health
    John Hunter Hospital, Locked Bag 1, Newcastle Mail Centre, NSW 2310, Australia
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    Dear All,

    We are exploring the feasibility for using Hydrogen peroxide vapor (HPV) to disinfect aircraft cabin, if traveler is suspected for MERS. And we would like to have your comment.

    Regards,

    Sony SO

    Nursing Officer, Infection Control Branch (Team 2)

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    The Dutch know the most about decolonisation
    Their 2012 evidence review is here- http://www.swab.nl/swab/cms3.nsf/uploads/51DB72E670CAC33BC12579BF00342A95/$FILE/SwabrichtlijnMRSAherziening%2015022012_EN.pdf

    Uncomplicated carriage gets 5days with TDS mup
    Complicated carriage 7 days

    Regards
    John

    Dr John Ferguson MBBS DTM&H FRACP FRCPA
    Director, Infection Prevention Service | Hunter New England Health
    Microbiologist | Hunter Area Pathology, Pathology North, NSW Pathology
    Infectious Diseases Physician | Immunology and Infectious Diseases Unit
    John Hunter Hospital, Locked Bag 1, Newcastle Mail Centre, NSW 2310, Australia
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Michael Wishart
    Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2015 2:08 PM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Fwd: RE: [asid-ozbug] Staph decolonisation: at the coal face

    [Cross-posted from ASID-OzBug with author permission – Moderator. Replies will be forwarded to author]

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    On 20/02/2015 2:54 PM, Meryta May wrote:
    Dear Ozbug,

    Irrespective of what the literature shows, can I ask the following as a quick straw poll:

    In your current favourite staph decolonisation protocol how many days do you usually recommend? If you have time to give a quick reason that would be great too (eg based on cast-iron evidence; based on previous failures; patient acceptance, a whim; etc).

    Nasal mupirocin: 5, 7, 10, other?

    Daily washes: 5, 7, 10, 14 , other?

    Many thanks

    Meryta

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    in reply to: Publication of AS/NZS4187:2014 #71733
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    I think congratulations are due to Terry, Sandy Berenger and others who have been doing the hard yards on this revision- thank you!

    I would suggest our College consider brokering sophisticated educational modules for ICPs that explain the important parts of the new Standard, including key concepts etc. All of us will be expected to be au fait with it after all.

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    Good morning everyone,

    AS/NZS4187:2014 is due to be published today!

    Unfortunately a quick check of the SAI Global website this morning revealed that it isn’t currently showing the new edition – however the Committee has been informed that it is due for publication today – so keep on checking and happy reading once you obtain your copy.

    If you have any questions I would be happy to discuss them with you.

    It is hard to believe that I have sat on this committeee representing AICA and now ACIPC since 1999. Where does the time go??

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    Dear All

    A few questions and comments (in advance of the ACIPC SIG starting its work)

    1. Are people promoting the use of WPRO 2004 Infection Control Guidelines? These do not appear to have been updated. Are there more recent WHO- worldwide guidelines that people use? What other materials are you providing? There is a real need for us to standardise what local and national advice we give for these programs.

    2. The WPRO inf control assessment tool is also there – are people using it? I’ve just been up in PNG and really even that tool is a road too far for nearly everywhere

    3. Do any of your hospitals have redundant mechanical beds that still function? Goroka Hospital really needs some. They also need a replacment general ultrasound machine. Perhaps we should be putting these things on Gumtree!! Our healthservice recently sent all its old beds up to Alotau. I can arrange transport with the Air Force etc from Newcastle.

    4. Re TB and DR-TB infection control in PNG , there is finally some semblance of national action with a crisis committee of experts, including key NGos meeting now. MSF have become involved with control efforts in the Port Moresby region. They are focusing on the USAID F-A-S-T control framework . I’ve updated all relevant links from this page – http://hicsigwiki.asid.net.au/index.php?title=Tuberculosis_healthcare_infection_control_in_resource_poor_settings .

    5. I’d encourage all those involved with overseas work to join one of the relevant discussion communities on GHDONLINE.org . ALso encourage your in-country colleagues and NGO partner groups to join. It would be great to think about establishing a specific community on this Harvard resource for Pacific Nation inf control – perhaps this could be then moderated by experts who sit on the ACIPC SIG.

    Lukim yupela!

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    in reply to: VRE Clearance #71462
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    Hi

    HNE will clear VRE (vanA or B) based on whether 2 separate swab sets are negative > 6 mths after the previous positive isolate. Wounds and urine (if catheterised) also cultured. We then re-screen based on targeted generalised adm criteria and ICU adm get screened.

    Regards
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of CAMERON, Donna
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    Hi Ravi & Michael,

    At Austin Health (Melbourne) while we never remove a VRE alert from the patient record we do clear them allowing them to come out of precautions. It is dependent on how long ago their last positive VRE sample was, the ward they are admitted to and if they are being put onto a course of treatment antibiotics. We have an algorithm the bed managers use which I am happy to share if you would like to see it. This is only applicable to the acute care setting as in our non-acute beds patients with VRE are only put into contact precautions if they are incontinent (and it is uncontainable) and uncooperative.

    We also have three levels of contact precautions now (Routine, Enhanced & Intensive) and for VRE it is what we term Routine Contact precautions where staff only wear a plastic apron. Gloves are only used as per standard precautions so the contact precautions are not as onerous as they once used to be.

    Currently, we dont have different screening/clearance protocols for van A or van B.

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    Dear Ozbuggers,

    Could we ask about your practice on VRE clearance and deflagging previously VRE colonized patients?

    What are your inclusion and exclusion criteria for the clearance?
    Is there a differentiation according to the van type van A vs. van B?

    We currently dont have a policy or procedure for clearing VRE flagged patients, but are feeling increasing pressure to do so.

    With regards,
    Ravi Dotel (ID registrar Liverpool Hospital)
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    in reply to: Air sampling – Reading the results #71402
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    Dear Fiona

    We also base our approach on Dharan

    I did put together an approach on the WIKI – see http://hicsigwiki.asid.net.au/index.php?titleOperating_theatre_commissioning_-_Microbiological

    It would be useful to agree a national standard for this!

    Kind regards
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    Dear Fiona,

    Here at our institution, we are currently using this reference:

    Dharan S, Pittet D. Environmental controls in operating theatres. J Hosp Infect. 2002 Jun;51(2):79-84.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12090793

    Realising that it is very difficult to set and apply acceptable CFU limits, and there always will be an arbitrary component to this.

    Best regards, Matthias.


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    Dear members,

    I know that air sampling in a new building is a contentious issue but we are currently undergoing it as part of the commissioning process for new operating theatres and one of the difficulties I face is people asking for the acceptable limit of certain organisms. Aside from fungal organisms I have been unable to find any references to guide me on specific organisms counts.

    I would like to hear people’s views on the isolation of skin or environmental flora when doing this sampling – how many CFU would be acceptable per air sample ?

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    in reply to: Skin prep #71032
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    Dear Jenny

    The critical point is that when chlorhex is mixed with alcohol , there is no apparent benefit from exceeding 0.5%.

    The old literature on 2% C and lines related to an aqueous preparation.
    Furthermore, we found an increase in skin reactions to the more concentrated products (went to a poster).

    Matthias M will comment no doubt – he has recently published this piece that is of relevance – Maiwald M, Chan ESY. Pitfalls in evidence assessment: the case of chlorhexidine and alcohol in skin antisepsis (Leading Article). J. Antimicrob. Chemother. (2014) Advance Access.
    http://jac.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2014/04/28/jac.dku121.abstract

    Kind regards
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    Hi Jenny,
    There is lots of supportive evidence for 2%CHG in 70%IPA, particularly for invasive device skin preparation (CVC/PICC/PIVC,ICC/Epidural, etc,etc..)
    Here is a link to Dr William Jarvis discussing the differences of various skin preps.
    http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/761489
    There is both a video of the discussion..
    To cut to the conclusion;
    The findings were very interesting. Of greatest importance, the investigators found that all products (0.5% chlorhexidine with ethanol, 1% chlorhexidine with ethanol, and 2% chlorhexidine with isopropyl alcohol) were equally effective. This will be very helpful information when you are trying to select a product for preparation of the insertion site for intravascular catheters or for a preoperative surgical antiseptic. Chlorhexidine is effective, and different concentrations of chlorhexidine are equally effective, with no statistically significant difference in colony counts. All of these products should be equally beneficial to patients in preventing central line-associated bloodstream infections or surgical site infections.

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    Hi all – not sure if this has already been discussed and apologies if it has – one of the orthopaedic surgeons here is requesting Chlorhexidine 2% with 70% alcohol (tinted red) as opposed to the 0.5% with 70% alcohol for skin prep. Firstly, is there an advantage to using the 2% as opposed to the 0.5% and if so would anyone have any literature to support this

    Thanks
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    in reply to: Norovirus #70642
    John Ferguson
    Participant

    Author:
    John Ferguson

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    Dear All,

    My views would be
    a) Contact precautions – YES – glove and gown, cohort or isolate with ensuite facilities
    b) Add eye safety wear and fluid- repellant filter (surgical) mask as required by Standard Precautions – ie dealing with a vomiting patient , bagging contaminated linen or dealing with vomitus etc

    CDNA and CDC do not see a rationale for particulate filter mask use. Where is the evidence for that?

    http://www.health.gov.au/internet/publications/publishing.nsf/Content/cda-cdna-norovirus.htm-l~cda-cdna-norovirus.htm-l-8

    http://www.cdc.gov/hai/pdfs/norovirus/229110A-NorovirusControlRecomm508A.pdf
    http://www.cdc.gov/hai/pdfs/norovirus/229110-ANoroCaseFactSheet508.pdf

    Best wishes
    John

    Dr John Ferguson
    Director, Infection Prevention & Control, Hunter New England Health
    Tel 61 2 4921 4444 | Fax 61 2 4921 4440 | Mob +61 428 885 573 | john.ferguson@hnehealth.nsw.gov.au | http://www.hicsiganz.org

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