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  • in reply to: Spray bottles and environmental cleaning #68998
    Glenys Harrington
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    Michael,

    Information below may be of interest/use:

    1. J.W. Medcraft, et al. Potential hazard from spray cleaning of floors in
    hospital wards. Journal of Hospital Infection, Volume 9, Issue 2, March
    1987, Pages 151-157

    Abstract
    The potential hazard from using contaminated spray cleaning fluid to clean
    hospital floors was investigated. Eight of 10 sprays in daily hospital use
    failed the ‘in-use’ test of Kelsey & Maures. Contamination was due to
    Gram-negative bacilli, mainly Pseudomonas spp. An experiment showed that
    freshly diluted cleaning fluid in a new spray container became contaminated
    in 6 days, although the route of contamination of the fluid is not clear.
    Air samples and samples from bedding collected during spray cleaning with
    contaminated fluid showed the presence of Pseudomonas spp. Use of freshly
    diluted cleaning fluid and daily cleaning of spray containers is
    recommended.

    2. Remote Health Branch, Northern Territory Government – Best Practice
    Communique 07 -19

    Extract below:

    “The primary concerns over the use of spray bottles include:

    1. Infection: reported findings of heavy growths of pathogens in spray
    bottles, which are of clinical significance in the hospital setting; the
    inability to totally clean and dry the trigger mechanism (therefore it
    remains damp and promotes bacterial growth); the dispersal of those
    pathogens by the spray mechanism;

    2. OH&S: the potential for the chemical to cause injury as a respiratory
    irritant for staff and visitors.

    3. Anecdotally most refillable bottles would appear to be poorly labelled
    and dated (making it unclear what the product is and when it was mixed)

    Best Practice Group discussions revealed a clear recognition of the
    usefulness of spray bottles in Health Centres. However, given the risks for
    the systems becoming a reservoir for infection, and the strong
    recommendation from DHCS Infection Control representatives, there was
    unanimous agreement to follow RDH’s lead, and remove spray bottles from RHB
    Health Centre use”.

    The document includes this reference but I have not been able to locate it –
    perhaps someone in QLD can assist? – Reference – Abstract – ‘Trigger Happy:
    Hidden dangers of spray bottles’ from the Queensland Infection Control
    Association conference (2001).

    3. B.M. Andersen. Et al. Floor cleaning: effect on bacteria and organic
    materials in hospital rooms Original Research Article. Journal of Hospital
    Infection, Volume 71, Issue 1, January 2009, Pages 57-65

    Summary

    Routine surface cleaning is recommended to control the spread of pathogens
    in hospital environments. In Norway, ordinary cleaning of patient rooms is
    traditionally performed with soap and water. In this study, four
    floor-mopping methods – dry, spray, moist and wet mopping – were compared by
    two systems using adenosine triphosphate (ATP) bioluminescence (Hygiena and
    Biotrace). These systems assess residual organic soil on surfaces. The
    floor-mopping methods were also assessed by microbiological samples from the
    floor and air, before and after cleaning. All methods reduced organic
    material on the floors but wet and moist mopping seemed to be the most
    effective (P < 0.001, P < 0.011, respectively, ATP Hygiena). The two ATP
    methods were easy to use, although each had their own reading scales.
    Cleaning reduced organic material to 5-36% of the level present before
    cleaning, depending upon mopping method. All four mopping methods reduced
    bacteria on the floor from about 60-100 to 30-60 colony-forming units
    (cfu)/20 cm2 floor. Wet, moist and dry mopping seemed to be more effective
    in reducing bacteria on the floor, than the spray mopping (P = 0.007, P 0.002 and P = 0.011, respectively). The burden of bacteria in air increased
    for all methods just after mopping. The overall best cleaning methods seemed
    to be moist and wet mopping.

    Regards

    Glenys

    Glenys Harrington
    Consultant
    Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)

    PO Box 5202
    Middle Park
    Victoria, 3206
    Australia
    H: +61 3 96902216
    M: +61 404 816 434
    infexion@ozemail.com.au
    ABN 47533508426

    —–Original Message—–
    Michael Wishart

    For many years I (and many of my infection control colleagues) have been
    saying that using spray bottles for environmental cleaning is not a good
    thing, due to potential OH&S risks (eg aerosolisation and inhalation of
    chemicals) and the difficulties of keeping spray bottles and nozzles clean,
    among other concerns.

    Have again been asked to justify this position, and again I am having
    difficulty finding actual evidence to support this best practice
    recommendation (see
    http://remotehealthatlas.nt.gov.au/0719_spray_bottle_communique.pdf for
    someone brave enough to put this in writing). Does anyone have any
    convincing studies or well-referenced guidelines to support this
    recommendation?

    Would also be interested in other views: is this considered best practice by
    the infection control community in Australia?

    Thanks for any discussion on this.

    Cheers
    Michael

    Michael Wishart

    Public Health Nurse,Communicable Disease Control Logan West Moreton PHU Ph
    34131200 Fax 34131221

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    in reply to: ICE MACHINES #68933
    Glenys Harrington
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    Joanne,

    The following is a summary of findings from a literature review of Infection
    Control issues associated with the use of ice machines. There are a number
    of reported outbreaks and clusters of infections that have been associated
    with ice machines. The two main sources of micro-organisms are from
    a)potable water (the water source used to make the ice) and b)organisms from
    hands of staff/patients.

    Common Organsisms

    POTABLE WATER*

    Legionella species, Non-Tuberculous mycobacteria, Pseudomonas species,
    Burkholderia cepacia, Stenotrophomonas species and Flavobacterium.

    HAND TRANSFER*

    Acinetobacter species, Coagulase Negative Staphylococcus, Salmonella and
    Cryptosporidium species.

    *Guidelines for Environmental Infection Control In Health Care Facilities,
    Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 2003.

    It is important to minimise the risk of acquiring micro-organisms from the
    ice machines.

    If an ice machine is purchased for a ward a regular cleaning and maintenance
    schedule is required in accordance with manufacturer instructions.

    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)1 recommend the
    following cleaning and maintenance procedures for ice machines;

    *If using a chest type machine on a weekly basis empty and clean the
    chest with soap and water, rinse with water then a dilute solution of Sodium
    Hypochlorite and allow all surfaces to dry.
    *On a monthly to quarterly basis remove removable parts for cleaning
    and check for breakage.
    *Sanitise the machine by circulating Sodium Hypochlorite solution
    through the ice making and storage system for 2 to 4 hours, then drain and
    flush with fresh tap water.

    In addition all staff should be instructed on appropriate handling of ice
    from the machine including the following;

    *Frequent hand washing
    *Use a scoop to remove ice from the machine not hands
    *Ice machine scoop/s should be smooth, impervious, and be kept on a
    tray when not in use (i.e. dry) and routinely cleaned and disinfected.

    Ice machines that dispense ice directly into a portable container provide a
    more sanitary method to store and obtain ice, however they do not eliminate
    the potable water as a source of contamination.

    If the unit decides to purchase an ice machine (chest type or self
    dispensing) the unit should liaise with Engineering Services and Cleaning
    Services to ensure;

    a) Recommended maintenance procedures are in place

    b) Recommended cleaning procedures are in place

    Regards

    Glenys

    Glenys Harrington

    Consultant

    Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)

    PO Box 5202

    Middle Park

    Victoria, 3206

    Australia

    H: +61 3 96902216

    M: +61 404 816 434

    infexion@ozemail.com.au

    ABN 47533508426

    Joanne Bird

    Hello All,

    I am enquiring if other hospitals use bench top dispensable ice machines in
    ward areas and if you may have Policy/ Guideline that you are willing to
    share?

    Looking forward to some responses,

    Joanne Bird

    Infection Control Nurse

    Katherine and Gove Hospital

    PH:89 739266 Mobile: 0427394492

    Didya wash ya hands ? NO GERMS ON ME!

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    in reply to: Active Ion Device? #68885
    Glenys Harrington
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    Hi Matthias,

    While I have not seen the product in Australia if it is used in Australian
    healthcare settings as a surface disinfectant it will need to be either be
    listed or registered with the TGA as per the TGA “Guidelines for the
    Evaluation of Sterilants and Disinfectants”
    http://www.tga.gov.au/industry/disinfectants-evaluation-guidelines.htm

    Until it is listed or registered it cannot make specific claims for being
    bactericidal, fungicidal, sporicidal, tuberculocidal or virucidal.

    For the Australian infection control community TGA would like to be advised
    of manufacturers/suppliers who are marketing disinfectants that are not
    listed or registered with the TGA via their online reporting form at the
    following link:
    http://www.tga.gov.au/about/form-breach-tgact.htm

    Simply ask the manufacturer or supplier for their TGA ARTG CERTIFICATE.
    Look for the ARTG Identifier. ARTG L = Listed only. ARTG R = Registered.
    Refer to the table in the TGA Guidelines for the Evaluation of Sterilants
    and Disinfectants (pg 62-65) for the claims that can be made for a
    sterilant or a disinfectant that is listed verses being registered.

    In addition in the 2010 “Australian Guidelines for the Prevention and
    Control of Infection in Healthcare” it states the following: “Where
    transmission-based precautions are required, a TGA-registered hospital grade
    disinfectant must be used if a disinfectant is required”.

    As a spray bottle infection control staff would also need to check any
    issues relating to ” topping up” and how the nozzle itself can be cleaned
    and disinfected.

    Regards

    Glenys

    Glenys Harrington
    Consultant
    Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)

    PO Box 5202
    Middle Park
    Victoria, 3206
    Australia
    H: +61 3 96902216
    M: +61 404 816 434
    infexion@ozemail.com.au
    ABN 47533508426

    —–Original Message—–
    Matthias.Maiwald@KKH.COM.SG

    Dear Group,

    Has anyone heard of a device called “Active Ion”? We learned that the
    housekeeping department of our hospital (not infection control or
    microbiology!) has apparently been aproached by a company wanting to sell
    “ActiveIon” spray devices.

    The company has websites promoting the product in several countries,
    including US, UK and Australia:

    http://www.activeion.com/us/Default.aspx

    http://www.activeion.co.uk/

    http://www.activeion.com/us/HowItWorks.aspx

    http://www.activeion.com.au/

    The device is apparently constructed like a spray bottle, and is supposed to
    be filled with tap water. The company’s claim is that when the tap water
    passes through the nozzle, it is “ionised” and filled with “nano-bubbles”,
    and this is supposed to clean surfaces and kill microorganisms. The claim is
    further that the water reverts back to being just water and leaves no toxic
    residue on the surface that it is used on.

    There is a relatively detailed (negative) review by what appears to be a
    scientifically-trained person (“doctor.generosity”) on the Amazon website:

    http://www.amazon.com/Activeion-ionator-Portable-Cleaner-Sanitizer/dp/B0031Q
    PQN6

    However, while searching I have not found anything that appears to be
    scientifically valid and appears to be supporting the company’s claim. In
    particular, there do not appear to be any truly independent microbicidal
    test results available.

    Any further insight? Anyone in hospitals being approached?

    Best regards, Matthias.


    Matthias Maiwald, MD, FRCPA
    Consultant in Microbiology
    Adj. Assoc. Prof., Natl. Univ. Singapore Department of Pathology and
    Laboratory Medicine KK Women’s and Children’s Hospital
    100 Bukit Timah Road
    Singapore 229899
    Tel. +65 6394 8725 (Office)
    Tel. +65 6394 1389 (Laboratory)
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    Glenys Harrington
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    Kevin,

    Perhaps the answer is not to look for a “defined routine sampling technique to determine a minimum standard for environmental contamination” as there will always be problems with interpreting what the results mean given the environment is not meant to be “sterile”.

    It would be more useful to determine what are the minimum, standardised, “reliable and repeatable” environmental decontamination procedure/s (i.e. cleaning and the use of florescent markers/cleaning and the use of microfiber/cleaning and chemical disinfection/cleaning and new technologies [HPV, UV, steam, other]) that can be shown to be linked to a sustainable reduction in infection and/or colonisation in patients in non-outbreak settings.

    Regards

    Glenys

    Glenys Harrington
    Consultant
    Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)

    PO Box 5202
    Middle Park
    Victoria, 3206
    Australia
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    —–Original Message—–

    [Moderator note: this message has been discussed with the original poster of this thread, and agreed that the content is not product specific and is worth consideration as part of this discussion.]

    John

    I read your post with great interest and think its a fantastic topic (and badly needed) for discussion.

    I was going to reply to the list but to be honest I am coming from a slightly biased perspective and really do not want to the list to degenerate into another marketing tool (or for that matter to get into trouble with the people who manage the list.) so here is my (for what its worth) feelings on the topic. Any feedback appreciated and if you feel its not going to be taken or seen incorrectly then I am happy to reply to everyone.

    Unfortunately while opinion is changing (and changing rather quickly) there is still debate in some circles as to the role of the environment in the spread of HCAIs. History tells us that the medical profession takes a while to change its mind (look at Semmelweis or John Snow)!

    The historical belief that pathogens dont survive long in the hospital environment has been proven to be completely wrong with evidence that the many bacteria can survive weeks, months or even years in the environment. The feeling that the patient contaminated the environment but that the a contaminated environment was not a risk to a patient has been reassessed and found to be incorrect in some circumstances. The question is not now whether a contaminated environment makes an important contribution to transmission but how much of a contribution does it make. Related to this, what level of cleaning and disinfection is required? Is cleaning enough? Do we need disinfection? To what level?

    What is exacerbating the problem is the lack of data on the actual level of contamination that exists in hospitals pre and post cleaning. Taking two or three swabs, even on a routine basis just isnt sensitive enough to give us that kind of data. How can sampling 2cm2 out of the entire surface area (even out of the high hand touch surfaces) even give us an indicative result on the level of contamination in a room? There is even some doubt as to the sensitivity of standard swabbing. If you look at a letter in AJIC in 2009, (Otter JA et al. Am J Infect Control
    2009;37:517-8) standard swabbing found 2% of surfaces contaminated with C.diff but moving to the newer pre moistened cellulose sponges swabbing
    1m2 found that 28% of surfaces were contaminated. This goes to show how inaccurate or lacking sensitivity our environmental testing, even when it done routinely.

    We all know that the environment contaminates healthcare workers hands, particularly the near patient environment. There are multiple studies that show this but the one that to me stands out is Hayden et al. Infect Control Hosp Epidemiol 2008;29:149-154 which showed that VRE touching that surface was posed the same risk of contaminating a HCW hands as touching the patient !!!

    The most convincing evidence that contaminated surfaces are important in transmission comes from the fact that there is an increased risk to a patient of acquiring a MDRO if the previous patient in that room had a MDRO:

    Martinez et al. Arch Intern Med 2003; 163: 1905-12 showed if VRE was cultured within the room the risk to the next patient increased by a factor of 2.6, Huang et al. Arch Intern Med 2006; 166: 1945-51 showed that if the prior room occupant had VRE the risk increased by a factor of 1.6 and for MRSA it was 1.3 Drees et al. Clin Infect Dis 2008; 46:
    678-85. demonstrated that if VRE was cultured within the room that the risk increased by a factor of 1.9. prior room occupancy risk increased by a factor of 2.2 and more worryingly even with all the cleaning that if the previous room occupant at any tome in the previous 2 weeks had VRE the risk still increased by a factor of 2.
    Shaughnessy. Infect Control Hosp Epidemiol 2011;32:201-206 showed that if the prior room occupant had C.diff that the risk to the next patient admitted increased by a factor of 2.4.
    Nseir et al. Clin Microbiol Infect 2010 looked at the MDR Gram Negatives and showed that prior room occupancy was also a significant risk factor.
    For Acinetobacter you risk increased by a factor of 3.8 and for Pseudomonas the risk factor increased by 2.1.

    So, having established that the environment contributes to transmission, the question is, what is the best way to reduce the contamination to a safe level?

    We also know that cleaning and disinfection, even with the best technique will not reliably eradicate this environmental contamination.
    As far back as 2004 Garry French French et al. J Hosp Infect
    2004;57:31-37 showed that manual cleaning failed to eradicate environmental contamination from MRSA. Byers et al. Infect Control Hosp Epidemiol 1998;19:261-264 showed that it took an average of 2.8 disinfections to eradicate VRE from a room, Boyce et al. Infect Control Hosp 2008;29:723-729 showed that bleach leaning failed to eradicate C.diff (using the more sensitive Sponge testing 25% of surfaces remained contaminated after bleach cleaning).

    Similarly, Farrin Manian demonstrated at SHEA in 2010 (and since part published Manian et al. Infect Control Hosp Epidemiol
    2011;32(7):667-672) that even with 2 daily bleach cleans and 4 repeat bleach cleans on patient discharge that 26.6% of rooms remained contaminated by MDR Acinetobacter or MRSA !!!!! 4 repeat bleach cleans
    How many hospitals currently or will ever go to that standard ??

    In the same study as above, Farrin Manian showed that Hydrogen Peroxide Vapour (HPV) was more effective than the four rounds of cleaning and bleach disinfection. Furthermore he demonstrated (again in SHEA 2010 but not yet published) that by eradicating this contamination (using Hydrogen Peroxide Vapour) that there was a 54% reduction of patient acquisition rates for MDR Acinetobacter, 42% reduction on C.diff, 50% reduction in VRE and a 24% reduction in MRSA !!

    Two other studies also suggest that eradicating environmental contamination reduces the acquisition of pathogens. John Boyce showed at SHEA in 2006 and since published, Boyce et al. Infect Control Hosp
    2008;29:723-729 that eradicating C.diff from the environment (again using HPV) reduced patient acquisition rates for C. diff by 54%. In another study of HPV decontamination in 2008, Passaretti presented data at SHEA (still to be published and again using HPV) demonstrating that by eradicating environmental contamination from a room where the previous room occupant had a MDRO that the risk of acquisition to the next patient dropped substantially. From VRE there was a 77% reduction, for MRSA a 54% reduction for C.diff a 65% reduction and for Gram negative rods a 38% reduction. Over all the eradication of environmental contamination on patient discharge reduced the risk of acquiring a MDRO by 66%…..

    So, yes, routine cleaning and disinfection of the rooms of patients on MRO precautions should be done but more may need to be done a patient discharge to eradicate pathogens for the safety of the next patient.

    Regarding terminology, I tend to use environmental decontamination to encompass both cleaning and disinfection, but standardisation would be helpful here.

    I think we need to define a routine sampling technique and a minimum standard for environmental contamination that must be achieved before a patient can be admitted to a room or bed-space. (I suspect different standards can be set for different areas depending on risk, for example in Oncology, ICU and Organ transplant the standard may be <1 CFU per CM2 for general medical ward it could be <2CFU per cm2.) There are some proposed guidelines (J Hosp Infect 2004; 56: 10-15 but these have not been adopted widely). We need to find a reliable and repeatable method of achieving this standard and it needs to be implemented and monitored.
    And there needs to be a budget made available for this.

    Regards

    Kevin Griffin
    Director Healthcare Solutions
    Bioquell Asia Pacific Pte Ltd

    T: +65 6592 5145
    F: +65 6227 5878
    M: +65 8511 3733
    E: Kevin.Griffin@bioquell.com
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    Glenys Harrington
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    Terri,

    From an infection control perspective for Droplet Precautions where single rooms are not available and you need to cohort you will need to be able to have a distance of at least 1 metre (3 feet) between each bed space.

    You could also apply this distancing in all of the areas you mention below as a minimum.

    In addition in the US Guidelines for the Design and Construction of Healthcare Facilities (2010) it states the following:

    2.2.2 Nursing Units

    2.2-2.2.2.2 Space requirements

    (2) Clearance

    (a) The dimensions and arrangements of rooms shall be such that there is a minimum clear dimension of 3 feet (91.44 centimetres) between the sides and the foot of the bed and any wall or any other fixed object.

    (b) In multi-bed room, a minimum clear dimension of 4 feet (1.22 meters) shall be available at the foot of each bed to permit the passage of equipment and beds.

    (3) Where renovation work is undertaken, every effort shall be made to meet the above minimum standards. If it is not possible to meet the above standards, authorities that have jurisdiction shall be permitted to grant approval to deviate from this requirement. In such cases, patient rooms shall have a minimum clear floor area of 100 square feet (9.29 square meters) in single-bed rooms and 80 square feet (7.43 square meters) per bed in multi-bed rooms.

    3.7 -3.4 Pre and Post-operative Holding areas

    3.7-3.4.2.2 Post – anaesthesia recovery positions

    (b) Clearance. Each post- anaesthesia recovery area shall provide a minimum clear dimension of 5 feet (1.52 meters) between patient stretchers or beds, 4 feet (1.22 meters) between patient stretchers or beds and adjacent walls (at the stretchers sides and foot), and the foot of the stretcher or bed to the closed cubical curtain.

    3.7-3.4.2.3 Phase II Recovery Areas

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    (i) The design shall provide a minimum clear dimension of 4 feet (1.22meters) between the side of adjacent lounge chairs and nearest obstruction.

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    Hi,

    Just wondering if anyone has a reference for the dimensions that ward beds should be apart from each other in a 2bed or more room. I have looked at the Australasian Health Facility Guideline and cant seem to find it. If it is in there can you tell me where?

    Also, in an ambulatory care setting, how far apart should the patient chairs be? I have a post op day surgery area that is doing away with beds and putting chairs in and they want to have chairs in an area with 1.7m apart (measured centre of chair to centre of chair) and I think that would be too tight for my paediatric patients who come with parents. Any ideas? Any references?

    Thanks,

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    in reply to: Bungs on PICCs #68545
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    Tony,

    The papers and discussion in the articles below may help you work your way through the issues relating to some of these valves (negative- or positive-pressure or displacement mechanical valve needleless connectors). To comment further I would need to know which valve you are using.

    Problems can include the following; stagnant fluid in the bung chamber(not always visible as the chambers are not always transparent), some bungs with concertina valves which fit snugly over the internal channel in the bung chamber are not sealed and this may result in communication between the stagnant fluid in the bung chamber with the fluid in the infusion channel when the hydrostatic pressure in the system is increased, accumulation of fluid(wet) on the bung surface after accessing a bung(after removal of the syringe), risk of user contamination when accessing the bung(some bung surfaces are smooth and the syringe tip can slip off the surface when trying to access), some bungs surfaces cannot be adequately disinfected before accessing and finally poor technique.

    Stagnant fluid in a dead space of any component of an intravascular device is vulnerable to contamination either during manipulation or when accessing the system with a syringe. Best to aseptically change the bungs on a regular basis to reduce the risk of microbial growth as microorganisms can migrate along a stagnant fluid pathway.

    A case I followed up in the past was a transplant patient who represented to hospital with Chryseobacterium sepsis. On investigation the patient had a multilumen hickmans catheter insitu. The patient had repeated positive BCs and was noted to spike a fever following flushing or accessing the lines. When I spoke with the patient about how the line was being managed at home it was established that the patient had not received the instruction to change the bungs and they had remained in situ since discharge(3-4 weeks). The patient had also been showering but was covering the Hickman and lines as instructed. All bungs were removed and cultured and all grew Chryseobacterium. Assume the bungs had become contaminated during showering as it is difficult to keep something covered and dry on the chest wall during showering.

    Jarvis et al. Health CareAssociated Bloodstream Infections Associated with Negative- or Positive-Pressure or Displacement Mechanical Valve Needleless Connectors
    Clin Infect Dis. (2009) 49 (12): 1821-1827.
    http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/49/12/1821.abstract

    Menyhay SZ, Maki DG. Disinfection of needleless catheter connectors and access ports with alcohol may not prevent microbial entry: the promise of a novel antiseptic-barrier cap. Infect Control Hosp Epidemiol 2006; 27:238.

    Happy to discuss further off line if needed.

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    [Cross-posted from OzBug with permission on behalf of Tony Allworth – Moderator. I will copy any list replies to him.
    NB I tried posting this a few days ago but it seems not to have been emailed?]

    A question has been raised that I would appreciated consolidated opinion on (I expect total consensus as usual): We have traditionally left the positive displacement valves (“bungs”) on PICCs from the time they go in unless there is obvious blood build-up or other contamination. The basis of this is to maintain a closed system to minimise infection. It has been pointed out that the positive displacement valves according to the manufacturer should be changed either after a certain number of accesses or time frame eg 3 days. When asked for the rationale for this no answer has been forthcoming. I can find no help in the literature. I am concerned that changing them “routinely” will compromise the microbial integrity of the system.
    What do others do, and think we should be advising?
    Cheers,
    Tony Allworth

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    in reply to: Disposable Patient curtains #68355
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    Hi All,

    This posting raises the question why are we looking at antimicrobial patient
    curtains/shower curtains at all?

    I’m not aware of any evidence that such items have been identified as source
    of HAIs or show to reduce HAIs?

    If this is a cost saving initiative (i.e. the cost of disposal is less than
    laundering/dry-cleaning non disposable items) then this is an issue for the
    supply manager.

    Perhaps we as infection control should be asking for the evidence to support
    their use over routine laundering practices?

    Regards

    Glenys

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    Dear All,

    Does anyone use disposable antimicrobial patient curtains or disposable
    shower curtains?

    If so, has the product met expectations?

    Is there any information available re: cost, recycling, infection control
    benefits?

    Regards,

    Angela Conte

    Infection Control

    Balmain Hospital

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    Margaret,

    I have used the following process in conjunction with Pharmacy and Nurse
    Managers(NMs) to minimise and standardise the number of HH products
    throughout the hospital.

    HCWs with skin problems were asked to have their skin problem assessed by
    staff health service or their own GP – we advised staff that this was
    important particularly in the event that the condition worsened/workcover
    issues etc.

    IC reviewed the HCWs HH practices (observation)- I often found staff were
    over washing.

    If HCW HH practices were OK (i.e. not over washing) HCWs were issued with 1
    bottle of an alternative product for sensitive skin (a Triclosan product) to
    try for 1 week.

    If after 1 week their skin condition had improved we arranged for the NM to
    order a personal supply for HCW.

    HCWs were instructed that to: a) use a new dispenser (may need to order
    separately as not always distributed with HH product by
    supplier/manufacturer) with each new bottle and b) ask other staff not to
    used their product to minimise the risk of contamination of the
    pump/dispenser.

    If no improvement after 1 week they were referred via staff clinic to the
    allergy clinic for assessment.

    Regards

    Glenys

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    cause Chlorhexidine

    Triclosan products are generally well tolerated and still has antimicrobial
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    Hello all

    I have had a couple of staff who are apparently sensitive to Chlorhexidine
    products.

    Dermatology review is difficult to access in the NT so my question is what
    do other ICP recommend for hand hygiene in this case. I realise you can’t
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    in reply to: Re: Combined Negative/Positive isolation room #68323
    Glenys Harrington
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    Linda,

    As per the Victorian Department of Health, “Guidelines for the
    classification and design of isolation rooms in health care facilities,
    Victorian Advisory Committee on Infection Control 2007”, rooms with
    reversible airflow mechanisms enabling the room to be either negative or
    positive pressure are not recommended. Problems with such rooms include the
    difficulty of configuring appropriate airflow for two fundamentally
    different purposes, the risk of operator error, complex engineering and fail
    safe mechanisms.

    Ref 1. Guidelines for the classification and design of isolation
    rooms in health care facilities, Victorian Advisory Committee on Infection
    Control 2007

    http://www.health.vic.gov.au/infectionprevention/publications/design_isolati
    on_rooms.htm

    A busy ED department, staff with no training in air handling and
    ventilation systems for hospitals and a switch that is will be used
    infrequently is probably not a good mix!

    Prior to the above guidelines in Victoria the hospital I worked at had some
    rooms with these switches – outcome – often turned on the wrong way and not
    recognised until some hours later(staff in ED, ICUs etc have other
    priorities when admitting very unwell pts). These human errors result in
    staff and patient exposures and significant increased workload for all
    concerned.

    In addition outside of patients who have had a bone marrow transplant the
    evidence for the use of positive pressure rooms is also limited.

    regards

    Glenys

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    Joanna Harris
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    Hi Lindy and Mary-Rose,

    We are also being asked this question as part of the discussions we are
    involved with for our ED refurbishment. We have had significant concerns and
    a number of incidents (none significant thankfully) over the past two years
    regarding the ‘switchable’ options that were previously authorised and are
    still in place in our facility.
    We’re happy that the latest HSF guidelines are very clear on not permitting
    the use of switchable systems.

    Jo

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    —–Original Message—–
    Lindy Ryan

    Dear mary – Rose,

    check out Australasian health faciltiy guidelines – chapter 20 pg 8 –
    combined alternating pressure isolation rooms (see link below)

    http://www.healthfacilityguidelines.com.au/guidelines.htm

    this document indicates that duel positive/negative pressure is not
    permitted and based on previous experience with this myself (we managed
    to get rid of this duel option that was in place our designated rooms
    from the arc days & perhaps before adam was born I am sure……….) it
    was a nightmare as no one even engineering dept was even sure or knew
    which switch was which way for onor off or standby etc as the writing
    had worn off, and docuemntation long lost and it was all operating via
    chinese whispers of how a negative or positive prssure room was meant to
    work (we had to do the old tissue against the door trick) and
    eventually found that the rooms at times were not fuctioning …gladly
    we got rid of these and moved to just one system of negative pressure
    and a quality manitenence monitoring system which these rooms aircon
    included it being attached to our BMS alarm system and also that
    Infection control get quartely reports of that the checks and
    functionility for allour neg pressure rooms are all working and Ok to
    use (important to have this in place for future)

    we do not currently have any rooms designated as postive pressure
    (except in out OT of course) in the cluster I work in. We have toyed
    with the idea for our oncology autologous transplants we do here but as
    these rooms are multi purporse in the wards when not being used for a
    transplant pt (we dont have the luxury here of closing rooms when beds
    are premium) the concerns that an infection risk pt may end up in the
    room (even though we ask them not too) and / or a transplant pt may also
    run the risk of having an MRO colonisation and inadvertantly positive
    pressure is used (in my previous exerience it didn’t matter what you
    policy or processes were the switiches can get flipped on or off belfore
    you know it if they are there) – so after some disucssion we believed
    the risks outweighed the benfits at this time for including positive
    pressure rooms (we do not do large numbers of transplant and we do not
    manage severe burns pts …perhaps you may get other advice here)

    i am happy to hear others thoughts on the use of positive pressure
    rooms and risk and benefits they may have come across in their
    experience and their frequenecy of use vs cost benefit.

    hope this helps the disucssion

    regards

    Lindy

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    >>> WishartM@ramsayhealth.com.au 25/06/2010 5:57 pm >>>
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    Dear All,
    I have been asked to investigate the possibility of including a room
    that
    can have both negative pressure and then be changed into a positive
    pressure isolation room – (so interchangable) for some upcoming
    renovation in an ICU and ED.
    I haven’t read in the literature or heard of this being a viable
    option,
    however would like to canvass the AICA list to gather some evidence
    around this. Also the efficacy of using positive pressure isolation
    rooms in the first instance.

    Thank you
    Regards
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    in reply to: Water saving devices #68242
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    Melinda,

    Can you clarify – are you talking about mixing valves?

    Glenys

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    I now have a number of building related guidelines (thanks everyone who responded to the last question), but now I am investigating risk associated with inserting flow restricting washers into the water supply for the showers and the handbasins. My concern is that it may promote microbial growth in the fixtures – but I have been unable to find reference to that specific issue.

    Melinda Grififths
    CNC Infection Control
    Alice Springs Hospital
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    in reply to: Theatre,building and the air #68238
    Glenys Harrington
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    Author:
    Glenys Harrington

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    Melinda,

    I’m assuming that operating theatres are going to remain operational during the renovations that the area being renovated can be completely sealed off from the rest of the complex?

    The purpose of air sampling under these circumstances is to qualitatively detect breaks in environmental infection control measures.

    In terms of air sampling I would do rank order air sampling.

    The objective of rank order air sampling is to monitor the efficacy of dust control measures by measuring and comparing the count of fungi in the area before, during and after the works. This approach determines the rank order of air quality from dirty (i.e. the outdoor air) to clean (i.e. air filtered through high-efficiency filters [90%-95% filtration]) to cleanest (i.e. HEPA-filtered air – the operating theatres).

    As an example rank order microbiological air sampling involves a standard number of samples taken on a routine, regular basis over a specified time in specific areas such as the following:

    Outdoors (dirty).
    An indoor area not under construction and away from construction site(clean).
    The Operating Theatre/Operating Theatre Complex(cleanest).

    The more data you have before works commence (i.e. baseline data) the better.

    You will need to take care in terms of interpreting the air sample results as air sampling can be problematic for the following reasons:
    Lack of standards linking fungal spore levels with infection rates.
    Lack of standards/protocols for testing (sampling intervals, number/location).
    Resource intensive (if you are to undertake this sampling for a long or protracted period the resource implications for an ICP or a team can be significant).
    Substantial laboratory support required.
    Unknown incubation period of Aspergillus infection.
    Variability of sampling circumstances.

    In addition there should be a risk assessment undertaken before works commence and the barriers should be checked on a routine regular basis for breaches. If breaches are identified works should cease until the breaches are rectified along with the theatres being notified that unfiltered air from an adjacent construction site may be entering the theatre complex.

    References
    1. Centres for Disease Control and prevention. Guideline for Environmental Infection Control in Health-Care Facilities: recommendations of CDC and healthcare Infection control Practices Advisory Committee (HICPAC). MMWR 2003; 52(no.RR-10): 1-48
    2. Microbiological Commissioning and Monitoring of Operating Theatre Suites, A report of a working party of the Hospital Infection Society UK, Sept 2005

    Regards

    Glenys

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    My Facility is currently planning to close a part of the Operating Theatre down to do some renovations. The hospital executive have asked me to devise an “air quality” program. Can anyone share their experience or steer me in the right direction.

    Melinda Griffiths
    CNC Infection Control
    Alice Springs Hospital
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    in reply to: Artificial fingernails #68229
    Glenys Harrington
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    Fiona,

    To support your policy/practice change or management strategies around this
    issue some additional evidence relating to nail damage and use of acrylic
    nails may be useful. See 2008 Shemer et al findings below:

    Shemer A et al. Onycomycosis due to artificial nails. J Eur Acad Dermatology
    Venereol. 2008 Aug;22(8):998-1000.
    Summary of Findings:

    68 pts suffering from nail changes and paronychia which appeared after
    removal of artificial nails
    Culture was positive in 67/68 patients (98.5%).
    Candida spp. were the most common pathogen

    Regards

    Glenys

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    RUSSO, Philip

    Short of running a guillotine across the knuckles, I’d suggest they
    would need to be removed from the clinical area until a/nails removed

    Regards
    Phil Russo

    On 22/03/2010, at 3:35, “Wilson, Fiona L (Infection Control)”
    wrote:

    > As per Hand Hygiene Australia and WHO consensus recommendations, we
    > do not recommend that HCW have artificial fingernails while working
    > in the clinical area. I am wondering how you ‘police’ this (for want
    > of a better term) and does anyone have a HR process for HCW’s who
    > refuse to remove artificial fingernails.
    > Regards
    >
    > Fiona Wilson
    > Manager, Infection Control
    > Western Health
    > Phone: 8345 6666 pager 506
    > Fax: 83456973
    > email: fiona.wilson@wh.org.au
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    in reply to: What is encompassed in Standard Precautions? #68225
    Glenys Harrington
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    John,

    I would include mention of aseptic technique or no-touch techniques in
    Standard Precautions guidelines. The terms would need to be defined in the
    context of a non-surgical environment.

    Aseptic technique and no-touch techniques are important aspects of basic
    infection prevention practice.

    Unfortunately aseptic technique and no-touch techniques are rarely mentioned
    in guidelines. Why is this? Is it assumed that such practices are good?
    My experience tells me that this is not the case. Many staff are either not
    trained or have received inadequately training in these areas.

    Unlike hand hygiene there is little or no credentialing or ongoing
    monitoring in place yet these practices are probably of more importance in
    terms preventing infection.

    Regards

    Glenys

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    John Ferguson
    Precautions?

    Dear Colleagues

    Further to the recent Draft Aust ICG reviews, we’ve been discussing what is
    inlcuded in the SP standard.
    I’ve usually referred to the CDC 2007 Guideline for Isolation Precautions as
    the bible in this regard. Table 4 on page 129 details SP – see
    http://www.asid.net.au/hicsigwiki/index.php?title=Standard_infection_control
    _precautions

    My questions are –
    – do others agree that this is the correct list?
    – does/should SP also extend to include the range of practices associated
    with medical and surgical asepsis? The AICA Standard 11 specifies ‘Aseptic
    technique is to be performed when indicated’ and references AICA Standard
    22, Invasive Devices.

    I look forward to your views!

    The other suggestion I have is that we make it clearer that SP is in fact a
    base-level contact precaution standard and that Transmission -based Contact
    Prec are only used in addition when it has been demonstrated that SP are
    insufficient to prevent transmission.

    Best wishes
    John

    Dr John Ferguson
    Director, Infection Prevention and Control Unit
    Microbiologist and Infectious Diseases Physician
    Hunter New England Health Service
    Locked Bag 1, Newcastle, NSW 2310, Australia
    tel 61 2 49214422, fax 61 2 49214440

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    networking.

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