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  • in reply to: Operating Theatre Attire #69797
    Fiona Randall
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    Fiona Randall

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    An “oldie but a goodie” is the Hospital Infectioin Society working party
    report on “behaviours and rituals in the operating theatre” this was
    published in the journal of hospital infection quite a number of years ago
    now.
    http://www.his.org.uk/_db/_documents/Rituals-02.pdf The working party
    reviewed all of the available evidence at the time and made recommendations
    based on the level of evidence available. Theatre attire, scrubs, overgowns
    & overshoes are addressed in this document.

    Overgowns are not necessary outside the operating theatre. Scrubs must be
    changed as soon as there is any blood/body fluid contamination regardless
    of whether staff are remaining in the OT suite or leaving to go to the cafe.

    I recommend a quick literature search of Pubmed for the latest
    literature/evidence on this subject.

    Fiona Randall
    CNC Infection Prevention & Control
    Wesley Mission Brisbane.

    On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Paul Smollen wrote:

    > Toni,****
    >
    > ** **
    >
    > I do enjoy this chestnut. While it is a public perception, facilities and
    > us at the Ministry receive multiple complaints from visitors about this
    > issues. One of the complaints we get is that the public see them in the
    > gowns in the cafe and are worried they are going off to operate on their
    > family member. This alone could convince your OT staff against the practice.
    > ****
    >
    > ** **
    >
    > The problems lies with no valid evidence. This comment may open a can of
    > worms….. but I find this should be a two way street and if OT staff want
    > to walk around a hospital and outside and do all normal activities in their
    > scrubs, then they should allow people to walk into an OT in street clothes.
    > I really see no difference. While we are concerned with levels of evidence
    > about scrubs outside an OT what level of evidence is there about wearing
    > scrubs inside an OT? The scrubs are usually kept on open shelves in open
    > change rooms with toilets and showers nearby. ****
    >
    > ** **
    >
    > I do know of facilities that have a lunch ordering system with their cafe
    > and the food is delivered there. This may be an option you could explore.
    > ****
    >
    > ** **
    >
    > Good luck with it all.****
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    > *From:* ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] *On
    > Behalf Of *Toni Schouten
    > *Sent:* Friday, 1 March 2013 9:29 AM
    > *To:* AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    > *Subject:* Operating Theatre Attire****
    >
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    > Dear All,****
    >
    > The issue of where you can and cannot wear operating theatre attire
    > (blues) has arisen at our facilities – again.****
    >
    > I would be interested to know if your facilities/organisations allow
    > theatre staff to eat and drink in the on-site cafeteria if they have clean
    > blues that are covered.****
    >
    > Food is not supplied to the OT; staff are permitted to collect food from
    > the on-site cafeteria if in clean blues that are covered; there is a tea
    > room but it is said that it can be over crowded at peak times.****
    >
    > The public perseption (and complaints received) says that they should not
    > be allowed to eat and drink there.****
    >
    > What valid evidence is there and what do others do or say to back up that
    > they should not eat and drink in on-site cafeterias (if at all). ****
    >
    > Look forward t your comments.****
    >
    > Regards, Toni.****
    >
    > ****
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    in reply to: Discontinuation of the use of theatre overshoes #69776
    Fiona Randall
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    Hi Sue,

    The Hospital Infection Society published an document quite a while ago
    which was titled “Behaviours and rituals in the operating theatre”
    http://www.his.org.uk/_db/_documents/Rituals-02.pdf
    This working party who wrote the document carried out a thorough literature
    review and made recommendations on practices based on the literature
    available and where evidence was scarce – good sensible practices.
    p.19 of the document discusses footwear & recommends the use of overshoes
    should cease.

    Regards,

    Fiona Randall
    CNC Infection Control
    Wesley Mission Brisbane

    On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:08 PM, McLellan, Sue wrote:

    > ** ** ** ** ** ** **
    >
    > Hi All,****
    >
    > ** **
    >
    > We are currently updating our guideline on surgical attire in the
    > operating suite and are keen to discontinue the use of overshoes being worn
    > in the operating suite. ****
    >
    > ** **
    >
    > Overshoes have been identified as being ineffective in reducing bacterial
    > floor contamination since the early 1990s and are not recognised in the
    > ACORN standards as effective. Further there is indication that there is in
    > fact an increase in risk of bacterial contamination through the process of
    > removing foot coverings where sound hand hygiene practices are not carried
    > out.****
    >
    > ** **
    >
    > We would like to seek advice and recommendations on the feasibility of
    > discontinuing the use of overshoes and theatre designated footwear and
    > guide personnel to wear clean enclosed slip resistant footwear in the
    > operating suite.****
    >
    > ** **
    >
    > Cheers,****
    >
    > ** **
    >
    > Sue****
    >
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