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    Matthias.Maiwald@KKH.COM.SG Subject: Re: Pre operative skin prep – orthopaedic joint replacement In-Reply-To:

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    Dear Fiona, dear Group,

    I am reasonably familiar with the literature about preoperative skin
    antisepsis (“skin prep”) and am not aware of any article describing or
    supporting this practice. Neither am I aware of any literature arguing
    against it. If there is no description or literature supporting it, this
    would clearly make it an unproven practice. I am also not aware of a clear
    microbiological rationale supporting it.

    There is theoretical concern against it. If it is applied for a prolonged
    period (there was no time specified in the e-mail), it may lead to softened
    skin, analogous to the “washerwomen’s hands”, and this may impair the
    natural defence mechanisms of the skin against infection. Again, this is
    only a theoretical concern and also remains unproven. (But it would be
    analogous to skin shaving on the evening before surgery, which is known to
    damage skin and increase surgical site infections).

    However, the classical preoperative skin antisepsis is a tried and proven
    procedure with many decades of experience behind it and a sound
    microbiological rationale supporting it (and now even clinical trials, see
    Darouiche et al, NEJM earlier this year). I have always emphasised that if
    people try supplementary methods (note that the above appears unproven)
    they should not cut down on any of the important aspects of classical skin
    antisepsis. These are:

    (1) Choice of a good antiseptic, i.e. alcohol compounds for superficial
    skin, aqueous compounds for mucous membranes.

    (2) Repeated application (e.g. 3 x) with some friction.

    (3) Sufficient contact time, preferably 5 min in total, before commencing
    surgery. Note that no antiseptic or disinfectant kills instantly, all
    follows a time-dependent reaction.

    (4) When using alcohols, avoiding pooling and wetting of drapes and letting
    the antiseptic dry before commencing surgery.

    I have heard of a practice whereby inappropriate antiseptics (e.g. aqueous
    compounds for superficial skin) are applied, and because the surgeon(s) did
    not want to wait for the contact time to pass, wipe the antiseptic away
    manually after only about 30 sec and start cutting. This is grossly
    negligent.

    As far as the question of a suitable alcohol product is concerned, as far
    as I am aware, Orion from Western Australia has a suitable one, from memory
    70% isopropanol, 2% chlorhexidine, tinted red (magenta). But there may be
    more vendors, and I would support the availability of a healthy range of
    good, effective products from different vendors.

    For a brief article dispelling the unfounded concern about fire risk when
    using alcohol skin preps see:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16768711

    Best regards, Matthias.


    Matthias Maiwald, MD, FRCPA
    Consultant in Microbiology
    Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine
    KK Women’s and Children’s Hospital
    100 Bukit Timah Road
    Singapore 229899
    Tel. +65 6394 1389
    Fax +65 6394 1387

    “Wishart,
    Michael”
    AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
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    Infexion
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    orthopaedic joint replacement

    26/08/2010 06:45
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    [Posted on behalf of John Ferguson – Moderator]

    Hi Fiona

    No evidence to my knowledge to support such a practice!

    The elephant in the room is Australian surgeons reliance on aqueous
    betadine skin prep in the first place given that the evidence for alcohol
    solutions of either betadine or chlorhex is there. We have raised this
    with the president of the RACS and hope to get some local usage of chlorhex
    /alcohol products. The problem has been identifying a locally marketed
    product that has colour dye in it. Has anyone located something to use?

    A related elephant is the relative lack of use of preop alcohol skin prep
    for surgical staff given its effectiveness, speed and skin friendliness.

    Kind regards
    John

    Dr John Ferguson
    Director, Infection Prevention and Control Unit Microbiologist and
    Infectious Diseases Physician HUNTER NEW ENGLAND HEALTH Locked Bag 1,
    Newcastle, NSW 2310, Australia
    tel 61 2 49214422, fax 61 2 49214440

    Visit http://www.hicsiganz.org for updates on healthcare infection prevention &
    control from around Australia and NZ.

    Of Fiona de Sousa
    joint replacement

    At our facility we have some orthopaedic surgeons who insist that their
    joint replacement patients have betadine painted over the relevant area and
    then have it wrapped in a sterile drape prior to going to theatre for
    surgery.
    This process occurs in our day of surgery admission area and poses several
    problems including that patients often decide they need to use the
    bathroom after the wrap has occurred and in getting out of bed and walking
    to the bathroom the wrap often falls onto the floor and then gets picked up
    by the patient and put back on.

    We have been investigating this practice and not been able to find any
    evidence for it but have been assured it is essential. Does anyone have
    any evidence in support of betadine wraps? What do other facilities use
    for pre operative skin prep for their joint replacement patients?

    Kind Regards,

    Fiona De Sousa
    Infection Prevention & Control Coordinator
    Sydney Adventist Hospital
    Fiona.Desousa@sah.org.au
    185 Fox Valley Road, Wahroonga, NSW, 2076

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