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  • #75976
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    Good morning,
    I’ve been asked to review guidelines for a wax bath to be utilised in the hand clinic by our OT’s.
    They tell me, we did have a wax bath years ago, but no one can say why they stopped using this aid.
    Can anyone share any IP&C implications associated with wax baths?
    I have no experience with this product and would appreciate any assistance.
    Kind regards
    Kristin

    Kristin Ryan-Agnew
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    #75987
    Michelle Fernandez (NSW Ambulance)
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    Dear Kristin,

    I know in the past wax baths have been used in beauty therapy as part of manicures. The wax was heated to melting point and the hands dipped in a couple of times to coat them. The remaining wax was then re-heated for the next client. So you can imagine the potential for contamination. Not sure if this is still done though as I know there was also the potential for wax getting too hot.

    The OT’s would likely use one lot of wax per patient and clean between. From memory, the ‘melting pots’ were fairly basic, so I imagine easy to clean. However, they would need to check with manufacturers recommendations regarding cleaning products.

    Kind regards,
    Michelle
    Michelle Fernandez
    CNC | Manager, Infection Control | Clinical Systems Integration
    Part time work days: Wednesday, Thursday, Friday
    Balmain Road, ROZELLE NSW 2039
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    Good morning,
    I’ve been asked to review guidelines for a wax bath to be utilised in the hand clinic by our OT’s.
    They tell me, we did have a wax bath years ago, but no one can say why they stopped using this aid.
    Can anyone share any IP&C implications associated with wax baths?
    I have no experience with this product and would appreciate any assistance.
    Kind regards
    Kristin

    Kristin Ryan-Agnew
    Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
    Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
    The Tweed Hospital

    [cid:image001.png@01D36E89.D6B88C30] National Standard 3 : Preventing and Controlling Healthcare Associated Infections

    [Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image001.png@01CC899A.70FE88C0]
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    #75978
    Lindy Ryan
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    Hello Kristin

    Possibly is may be related to the information around waxing and cross infection risks that was put out by NSW health some time ago (in conjunction with Skin Penetrating guidelines etc ) ?

    Here is the link for info and link to other guidelines

    https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/environment/factsheets/Pages/waxing.aspx

    Hope you day goes well & Happy Friday everyone!!

    Lindy

    Lindy Ryan

    District Infection Prevention & Control CNC | Clinical Governance & Information Services MNCLHD
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    “Wise and humane management of the patient is the best safeguard against infection”
    (Florence Nightingale Circa 1860)

    Good morning,
    I’ve been asked to review guidelines for a wax bath to be utilised in the hand clinic by our OT’s.
    They tell me, we did have a wax bath years ago, but no one can say why they stopped using this aid.
    Can anyone share any IP&C implications associated with wax baths?
    I have no experience with this product and would appreciate any assistance.
    Kind regards
    Kristin

    Kristin Ryan-Agnew
    Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
    Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
    The Tweed Hospital

    [cid:image001.png@01D36E89.D6B88C30] National Standard 3 : Preventing and Controlling Healthcare Associated Infections

    [Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image001.png@01CC899A.70FE88C0]
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    #75986
    Mona Schousboe
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    Hello All
    I can remember our burns unit at Burwood Hospital in the 1970es and maybe
    80es used warm wax for exercising damaged hands. Of course, the wounds on
    the hands were healed before it was used. However, the wax was used on
    several patients. It was in my early days of Infection control, and I
    addressed the need to decontaminate the wax, between patients, by heating
    it to a temperature which the wax could tolerate and high enough to kill
    bacteria.
    Mona Schousboe
    FRCPA, MPH.

    On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 1:13 PM Lindy Ryan (Mid North Coast LHD) wrote:

    > Hello Kristin
    >
    >
    >
    > Possibly is may be related to the information around waxing and cross
    > infection risks that was put out by NSW health some time ago (in
    > conjunction with Skin Penetrating guidelines etc ) ?
    >
    >
    >
    > Here is the link for info and link to other guidelines
    >
    >
    >
    > https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/environment/factsheets/Pages/waxing.aspx
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Hope you day goes well & Happy Friday everyone!!
    >
    >
    >
    > Lindy
    >
    >
    >
    > *Lindy Ryan*
    >
    > District Infection Prevention & Control CNC | *Clinical Governance &
    > Information Services MNCLHD *
    >
    > Level 1 Coffs Specialist Centre, Pacific Hwy, Coffs Harbour
    > Office 66911984 or Mob 0419 990 693 | lindy.ryan@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au
    > http://www.health.nsw.gov.au
    >
    >
    > [image:
    > http://internal.health.nsw.gov.au/communications/e-signatures/images/NSW-Health-Mid-North-Coast-LHD.jpg%5D
    >
    >
    >
    > Wise and humane management of the patient is the best safeguard against
    > infection
    >
    > (Florence Nightingale Circa 1860)
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > *From:* ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] *On
    > Behalf Of *Kristin Ryan-Agnew (Northern NSW LHD)
    > *Sent:* Friday, 8 November 2019 6:52 AM
    > *To:* ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    > *Subject:* [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Wax Baths
    >
    >
    >
    > Good morning,
    >
    > Ive been asked to review guidelines for a wax bath to be utilised in the
    > hand clinic by our OTs.
    >
    > They tell me, we did have a wax bath years ago, but no one can say why
    > they stopped using this aid.
    >
    > Can anyone share any IP&C implications associated with wax baths?
    >
    > I have no experience with this product and would appreciate any assistance.
    >
    > Kind regards
    >
    > Kristin
    >
    >
    >
    > *Kristin Ryan-Agnew*
    >
    > *Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)*
    >
    > *Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant*
    >
    > *The Tweed Hospital*
    >
    > *Ph: 0755067406*
    >
    > *Mobile: 0427112213*
    >
    >
    >
    > [image: cid:image001.png@01D36E89.D6B88C30] *National Standard 3 :
    > Preventing and Controlling Healthcare Associated Infections*
    >
    >
    >
    > [image: Description: Description: Description: Description:
    > cid:image001.png@01CC899A.70FE88C0]
    >
    > I acknowledge the Bundjalung people as traditional owners of the land on
    > which I work and live.
    >
    > ‘Bulla Yana Yabur’ Standing Together As One
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    #75989
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    Hello Kristin

    Paraffin wax baths (thermotherapy) for the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis and other forms of arthritis affecting the hands are used in aged care homes. The modern version of the equipment (equipped with thermostat) has manufacturer’s instructions for use on the cleaning/maintenance of the containers and the wax. This form of heat treatment requires a system for documenting and monitoring/auditing the process for compliance. The treatment is often performed by therapy assistants under the direction and supervision of a physiotherapist or occupational therapist in this setting.

    Kind regards
    Megan

    Megan Reilly RN BN TAE40116 Cert IV Training & Assessment MHlthSc (Inf Control) Immunise Cert HHA Gold Standard Auditor & Assessor MACN
    Director
    Hands-On Infection Control
    PO Box 233 (Suite 1/120 – 122 Lake Street, Perth)
    NORTH PERTH WA 6906

    Infection Prevention: The Responsibility is in Everyone’s Hands

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    ABN 58 015 361 500

    Dear Kristin,

    I know in the past wax baths have been used in beauty therapy as part of manicures. The wax was heated to melting point and the hands dipped in a couple of times to coat them. The remaining wax was then re-heated for the next client. So you can imagine the potential for contamination. Not sure if this is still done though as I know there was also the potential for wax getting too hot.

    The OT’s would likely use one lot of wax per patient and clean between. From memory, the ‘melting pots’ were fairly basic, so I imagine easy to clean. However, they would need to check with manufacturers recommendations regarding cleaning products.

    Kind regards,
    Michelle
    Michelle Fernandez
    CNC | Manager, Infection Control | Clinical Systems Integration
    Part time work days: Wednesday, Thursday, Friday
    Balmain Road, ROZELLE NSW 2039
    p: 02 9320 7868 | m: 0429 926 505 | f: 02 9320 7729 | Michelle.Fernandez@health.nsw.gov.au
    http://www.ambulance.nsw.gov.au
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    Follow NSW Ambulance on: [cid:image003.png@01D37B37.BA4491B0] [cid:image004.png@01D37B37.BA4491B0]

    Good morning,
    I’ve been asked to review guidelines for a wax bath to be utilised in the hand clinic by our OT’s.
    They tell me, we did have a wax bath years ago, but no one can say why they stopped using this aid.
    Can anyone share any IP&C implications associated with wax baths?
    I have no experience with this product and would appreciate any assistance.
    Kind regards
    Kristin

    Kristin Ryan-Agnew
    Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
    Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
    The Tweed Hospital

    [cid:image001.png@01D36E89.D6B88C30] National Standard 3 : Preventing and Controlling Healthcare Associated Infections

    [Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:image001.png@01CC899A.70FE88C0]
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