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    Hello all

    I wondered if anyone has specific research into the installation of wall mounted ABHR units in wings for residents with dementia. Much of the research or reported cases of people drinking ABHR relate to individual bottles of solution and not from wall mounted units. W are currently looking the installation across all of our units and wondered if anyone has undertaken a risk assessment of this or had experience/opinions of this. We naturally want to balance the safety risk for the confused resident with the risk of not have suitable hand hygiene methods available from an IPC perspective.

    Kind regards,

    Helen Finlay
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    Prudence Hart
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    Hi Helen,

    I don’t have any specific research but we use an automatic dispenser for handgel on the wall and residents can’t access the product.

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    Hello all

    I wondered if anyone has specific research into the installation of wall mounted ABHR units in wings for residents with dementia. Much of the research or reported cases of people drinking ABHR relate to individual bottles of solution and not from wall mounted units. W are currently looking the installation across all of our units and wondered if anyone has undertaken a risk assessment of this or had experience/opinions of this. We naturally want to balance the safety risk for the confused resident with the risk of not have suitable hand hygiene methods available from an IPC perspective.

    Kind regards,

    Helen Finlay
    National Manager Infection Control
    t 0427 110 668 | 03 8518 7356
    e hfinlay@regis.com.au | w http://www.regis.com.au

    Level 2, 615 Dandenong Road, Armadale VIC 3143

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    #77552
    Robyn Russell
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    Hi Helen
    We have had wall mounted ABHR in all of our 10 memory support units installed nearly 3 years ago
    Most facilities were very concerned at the time about the very issue you raised

    We decided that in the event there is a resident either trying to drink the ABHR or constantly using or interfering with the wall mounted unit, that the staff could remove the refill pack from any unit
    In this time we have not had any resident incidents related to the ABHR, nor have any sites had to empty the wall mounted unit

    So no specific research paper, but our experience if that assists

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    Robyn

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    Hello all

    I wondered if anyone has specific research into the installation of wall mounted ABHR units in wings for residents with dementia. Much of the research or reported cases of people drinking ABHR relate to individual bottles of solution and not from wall mounted units. W are currently looking the installation across all of our units and wondered if anyone has undertaken a risk assessment of this or had experience/opinions of this. We naturally want to balance the safety risk for the confused resident with the risk of not have suitable hand hygiene methods available from an IPC perspective.

    Kind regards,

    Helen Finlay
    National Manager Infection Control
    t 0427 110 668 | 03 8518 7356
    e hfinlay@regis.com.au | w http://www.regis.com.au

    Level 2, 615 Dandenong Road, Armadale VIC 3143

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    #77553
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    Hi Helen,

    We had a resident in our MSU at one site who did approach the wall mounted AHBR wall stations. The staff observed her over a period of time and determined which stations were being used. The gel was removed from those stations.
    Recently we increased the amount of stations in all sites including MSU and have not had any concerns with residents approaching these, we have gone for he push button instead of the automatic (as residents were able to access the AHBR in the automatic stations easier than working out a push button).
    We found the residents were more attracted to the single pump bottles which they collected in their travels around the unit.

    Kind Regards

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    Hello all

    I wondered if anyone has specific research into the installation of wall mounted ABHR units in wings for residents with dementia. Much of the research or reported cases of people drinking ABHR relate to individual bottles of solution and not from wall mounted units. W are currently looking the installation across all of our units and wondered if anyone has undertaken a risk assessment of this or had experience/opinions of this. We naturally want to balance the safety risk for the confused resident with the risk of not have suitable hand hygiene methods available from an IPC perspective.

    Kind regards,

    Helen Finlay
    National Manager Infection Control
    t 0427 110 668 | 03 8518 7356
    e hfinlay@regis.com.au | w http://www.regis.com.au

    Level 2, 615 Dandenong Road, Armadale VIC 3143

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    #77551
    Glenys Harrington
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    Hi Helen,

    In such settings tamper proof dispensers should be utilised.

    Regards

    Glenys

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    Hello all

    I wondered if anyone has specific research into the installation of wall
    mounted ABHR units in wings for residents with dementia. Much of the
    research or reported cases of people drinking ABHR relate to individual
    bottles of solution and not from wall mounted units. W are currently looking
    the installation across all of our units and wondered if anyone has
    undertaken a risk assessment of this or had experience/opinions of this. We
    naturally want to balance the safety risk for the confused resident with the
    risk of not have suitable hand hygiene methods available from an IPC
    perspective.

    Kind regards,

    Helen Finlay

    National Manager Infection Control

    t 0427 110 668 | 03 8518 7356

    e hfinlay@regis.com.au | w
    http://www.regis.com.au

    Level 2, 615 Dandenong Road, Armadale VIC 3143

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    #77554
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    Hi Helen
    We have successfully placed one in our older adult mental unit and happy to provide details privately of the product. This unit has a lot of older people with dementia and we have placed them at the entrance to the room rather than in the room. They have been in place for 5 years and we have had no issues. The company also provide a more secure unit for these types of situations.
    Lucille

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    Hello all

    I wondered if anyone has specific research into the installation of wall mounted ABHR units in wings for residents with dementia. Much of the research or reported cases of people drinking ABHR relate to individual bottles of solution and not from wall mounted units. W are currently looking the installation across all of our units and wondered if anyone has undertaken a risk assessment of this or had experience/opinions of this. We naturally want to balance the safety risk for the confused resident with the risk of not have suitable hand hygiene methods available from an IPC perspective.

    Kind regards,

    Helen Finlay
    National Manager Infection Control
    t 0427 110 668 | 03 8518 7356
    e hfinlay@regis.com.au | w http://www.regis.com.au

    Level 2, 615 Dandenong Road, Armadale VIC 3143

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