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    James Rippey
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    Dear Team,

    I am a member of the Standards of Practice Committee for the Australasian
    Society for Ultrasound in Medicine.

    There remains a great deal of heterogeneity in recommendations regarding
    cleaning of ultrasound transducers, and conflicting recommendations by
    various bodies. We also receive pressure from vendors to support their
    products, usually backed by a host of complicated and difficult to
    interpret evidence.

    I wondered whether you had specific up to date evidence based references
    you would recommend us reviewing regarding:

    1. Regular cleaning of ultrasound transducers used on closed skin.

    2. Cleaning of transducers used for intracavity scanning.

    For those of you wishing to read further:

    Currently most ultrasound users are aware they should perform:

    1. Regular cleaning of ultrasound transducers used on closed skin.

    – Clean as you would your hands – wash with warm mild detergent and
    running water between each patient.
    – Some would use Chlorhexidine wash or alcohol impregnated wipes –
    although these are not recommended by manufacturers as they may damage the
    face of the transducer.
    – Where there is contact with body fluids clean as per intracavity
    transducer.

    2. Cleaning of intracavity transducers – high level disinfection

    – Wash removing all visible gel / residue – running water, mild
    detergent, wipe dry.
    – Use one of the approved agents according to manufacturer guidelines
    – Including hydrogen peroxide, glutaraldehyde, ortho-phthalaldehyde (OPA)
    – Opinion on chlorine dioxide delivered via the wipe system, and
    paracetic acid seems divided.
    – The concern regarding the wipes is based on inter user variability.
    – There has been some literature describing paracetic acid damage to
    endoscopes.

    Your advice is again much appreciated.
    Just want to ensure we remain up to date.

    Sincerely
    James Rippey


    *Associate Professor James Rippey*

    Emergency Physician
    University of Western Australia
    Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital
    King Edward Memorial Hospital for Women
    Emergency Medicine Lead for the Kimberley

    Mobile 0400990186

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    #71745
    Michael Wishart
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    James, interestingly today on the APIC (US infection prevention professional group) discussion list the question was asked about pre-processing trans-vaginal probes prior to use if not used within 12 hours (like we require for fibreoptic endoscopes).

    Has there been any discussion in Australia about that kind of requirement as well? Just something else to consider.

    Cheers
    Michael

    Michael Wishart
    Infection Control Coordinator

    A 627 Rode Road, Chermside QLD 4032
    P (07) 3326 3068 | F (07) 3607 2226 | E michael.wishart@svha.org.au | W http://www.hsnph.org.au
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of James Rippey
    Sent: Wednesday, 17 December 2014 12:52 PM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Ultrasound probe cleaning

    Dear Team,

    I am a member of the Standards of Practice Committee for the Australasian Society for Ultrasound in Medicine.

    There remains a great deal of heterogeneity in recommendations regarding cleaning of ultrasound transducers, and conflicting recommendations by various bodies. We also receive pressure from vendors to support their products, usually backed by a host of complicated and difficult to interpret evidence.

    I wondered whether you had specific up to date evidence based references you would recommend us reviewing regarding:

    1. Regular cleaning of ultrasound transducers used on closed skin.

    2. Cleaning of transducers used for intracavity scanning.

    For those of you wishing to read further:

    Currently most ultrasound users are aware they should perform:

    1. Regular cleaning of ultrasound transducers used on closed skin.

    * Clean as you would your hands – wash with warm mild detergent and running water between each patient.
    * Some would use Chlorhexidine wash or alcohol impregnated wipes – although these are not recommended by manufacturers as they may damage the face of the transducer.
    * Where there is contact with body fluids clean as per intracavity transducer.
    2. Cleaning of intracavity transducers – high level disinfection

    * Wash removing all visible gel / residue – running water, mild detergent, wipe dry.
    * Use one of the approved agents according to manufacturer guidelines
    * Including hydrogen peroxide, glutaraldehyde, ortho-phthalaldehyde (OPA)
    * Opinion on chlorine dioxide delivered via the wipe system, and paracetic acid seems divided.
    * The concern regarding the wipes is based on inter user variability.
    * There has been some literature describing paracetic acid damage to endoscopes.
    Your advice is again much appreciated.
    Just want to ensure we remain up to date.

    Sincerely
    James Rippey


    Associate Professor James Rippey

    Emergency Physician
    University of Western Australia
    Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital
    King Edward Memorial Hospital for Women
    Emergency Medicine Lead for the Kimberley

    Mobile 0400990186

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    #71747
    James Rippey
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    James Rippey

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    Hi Michael,

    No, that little gem hasn’t raised it’s head.
    Something to look forward to!

    Cheers
    James

    On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Michael Wishart wrote:
    >
    > James, interestingly today on the APIC (US infection prevention
    > professional group) discussion list the question was asked about
    > pre-processing trans-vaginal probes prior to use if not used within 12
    > hours (like we require for fibreoptic endoscopes).
    >
    >
    >
    > Has there been any discussion in Australia about that kind of requirement
    > as well? Just something else to consider.
    >
    >
    >
    > Cheers
    >
    > Michael
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > *Michael Wishart*
    >
    > Infection Control Coordinator
    >
    >
    > *A *627 Rode Road, Chermside QLD 4032
    > *P *(07) 3326 3068 | *F *(07) 3607 2226 | *E *
    > michael.wishart@svha.org.au | *W * http://www.hsnph.org.au
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    >
    >
    >
    > *From:* ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] *On
    > Behalf Of *James Rippey
    > *Sent:* Wednesday, 17 December 2014 12:52 PM
    > *To:* AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    > *Subject:* Ultrasound probe cleaning
    >
    >
    >
    > Dear Team,
    >
    >
    >
    > I am a member of the Standards of Practice Committee for the Australasian
    > Society for Ultrasound in Medicine.
    >
    >
    >
    > There remains a great deal of heterogeneity in recommendations regarding
    > cleaning of ultrasound transducers, and conflicting recommendations by
    > various bodies. We also receive pressure from vendors to support their
    > products, usually backed by a host of complicated and difficult to
    > interpret evidence.
    >
    >
    >
    > I wondered whether you had specific up to date evidence based references
    > you would recommend us reviewing regarding:
    >
    >
    >
    > 1. Regular cleaning of ultrasound transducers used on closed skin.
    >
    >
    >
    > 2. Cleaning of transducers used for intracavity scanning.
    >
    >
    >
    > For those of you wishing to read further:
    >
    >
    >
    > Currently most ultrasound users are aware they should perform:
    >
    >
    >
    > 1. Regular cleaning of ultrasound transducers used on closed skin.
    >
    > – Clean as you would your hands – wash with warm mild detergent and
    > running water between each patient.
    > – Some would use Chlorhexidine wash or alcohol impregnated wipes –
    > although these are not recommended by manufacturers as they may damage the
    > face of the transducer.
    > – Where there is contact with body fluids clean as per intracavity
    > transducer.
    >
    > 2. Cleaning of intracavity transducers – high level disinfection
    >
    > – Wash removing all visible gel / residue – running water, mild
    > detergent, wipe dry.
    > – Use one of the approved agents according to manufacturer guidelines
    > – Including hydrogen peroxide, glutaraldehyde, ortho-phthalaldehyde
    > (OPA)
    > – Opinion on chlorine dioxide delivered via the wipe system, and
    > paracetic acid seems divided.
    > – The concern regarding the wipes is based on inter user variability.
    > – There has been some literature describing paracetic acid damage to
    > endoscopes.
    >
    > Your advice is again much appreciated.
    >
    > Just want to ensure we remain up to date.
    >
    >
    >
    > Sincerely
    >
    > James Rippey
    >
    >
    >
    > —
    >
    > *Associate Professor James Rippey*
    >
    >
    >
    > Emergency Physician
    >
    > University of Western Australia
    >
    > Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital
    >
    > King Edward Memorial Hospital for Women
    >
    > Emergency Medicine Lead for the Kimberley
    >
    >
    >
    > Mobile 0400990186
    >
    >
    >
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    > NOT REPRESENT THE OPINION OF ACIPC.
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    *Associate Professor James Rippey*

    University of Western Australia
    Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital
    King Edward Memorial Hospital for Women

    Mobile 0400990186

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    #71749
    Tim Spencer
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    Tim Spencer

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    Hi James,

    Current literature I could find

    American Institute of Ultrasound in Medicine

    Guidelines for Cleaning and Preparing External- and Internal-Use Ultrasound Probes Between Patients

    Approved 4/2/2014

    http://www.aium.org/officialstatements/57

    Society of Radiographers, UK

    https://www.sor.org/system/files/article/201410/ultrasound_probe_cleaning_decontamination_disinfection_and_sterilisation.pdf

    Friday, October 17, 2014, Issue 12

    CDC Guideline for Disinfection and Sterilization in Healthcare Facilities, 2008 (old reference but they havent updated the guidelines as far as I can see)

    http://www.cdc.gov/hicpac/pdf/guidelines/Disinfection_Nov_2008.pdf

    This seems to all thats currently new.

    Hope this provides some help with your search.

    Regards,

    Tim..

    Timothy R. Spencer, RN, APN, DipAppSci, Bach.Health, ICCert, VA-BC.

    Independent Vascular Access Consultant
    President, Australian Vascular Access Society
    Conjoint Lecturer, South West Sydney Clinical School | Faculty of Medicine | University of NSW

    Director-at-Large, Vascular Access Certification Corporation (VACC)
    M: +1 (623) 326 8889 (USA)

    M: +61 (0)409 463 428 (AU)
    E: tim.spencer68@icloud.com

    Be a yardstick of quality. Some people aren’t used to an environment where excellence is expected. Steve Jobs

    Dear Team,

    I am a member of the Standards of Practice Committee for the Australasian Society for Ultrasound in Medicine.

    There remains a great deal of heterogeneity in recommendations regarding cleaning of ultrasound transducers, and conflicting recommendations by various bodies. We also receive pressure from vendors to support their products, usually backed by a host of complicated and difficult to interpret evidence.

    I wondered whether you had specific up to date evidence based references you would recommend us reviewing regarding:

    1. Regular cleaning of ultrasound transducers used on closed skin.

    2. Cleaning of transducers used for intracavity scanning.

    For those of you wishing to read further:

    Currently most ultrasound users are aware they should perform:

    1. Regular cleaning of ultrasound transducers used on closed skin.

    *Clean as you would your hands – wash with warm mild detergent and running water between each patient.
    *Some would use Chlorhexidine wash or alcohol impregnated wipes – although these are not recommended by manufacturers as they may damage the face of the transducer.
    *Where there is contact with body fluids clean as per intracavity transducer.

    2. Cleaning of intracavity transducers – high level disinfection

    *Wash removing all visible gel / residue – running water, mild detergent, wipe dry.
    *Use one of the approved agents according to manufacturer guidelines
    *Including hydrogen peroxide, glutaraldehyde, ortho-phthalaldehyde (OPA)
    *Opinion on chlorine dioxide delivered via the wipe system, and paracetic acid seems divided.
    *The concern regarding the wipes is based on inter user variability.
    *There has been some literature describing paracetic acid damage to endoscopes.

    Your advice is again much appreciated.

    Just want to ensure we remain up to date.

    Sincerely

    James Rippey

    Associate Professor James Rippey

    Emergency Physician

    University of Western Australia

    Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital

    King Edward Memorial Hospital for Women

    Emergency Medicine Lead for the Kimberley

    Mobile 0400990186

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    #71751
    Marija Juraja
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    Marija Juraja

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    Good morning,

    Last year the ACIPC Policy Committee provided a response to ASA (Australian Sonographers Association) Guidelines on the Hygienic use and storage of ultrasound gel which also included care of the solid (non-lumen)probes. There is also a policy also on disinfection of ultrasound transducers. There are also specific instrument disposable detergent wipes that have TGA approval for cleaning solid (non-lumen)probes between use that still meets the pre-clean prior to disinfection.

    Hopefully this may answer your questions regarding Australian Guidelines.

    Here is the link to the document:

    http://www.a-s-a.com.au/fileRepository/files/Website/Public%20site/Quality%20Practice/ASA%20Guidelines/ASA_Guideline_Gel_Useage.pdf

    http://www.asum.com.au/newsite/files/documents/policies/PS/B2_policy.pdf

    Kind Regards
    Marija Juraja
    RN, Grad Cert IC, CICP
    Immediate Past President, ACIPC
    Mob: 0410 567 385
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Tim Spencer
    Sent: Thursday, 18 December 2014 6:03 AM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Ultrasound probe cleaning

    Hi James,
    Current literature I could find

    American Institute of Ultrasound in Medicine
    Guidelines for Cleaning and Preparing External- and Internal-Use Ultrasound Probes Between Patients
    Approved 4/2/2014
    http://www.aium.org/officialstatements/57

    Society of Radiographers, UK
    https://www.sor.org/system/files/article/201410/ultrasound_probe_cleaning_decontamination_disinfection_and_sterilisation.pdf
    Friday, October 17, 2014, Issue 12

    CDC Guideline for Disinfection and Sterilization in Healthcare Facilities, 2008 (old reference but they havent updated the guidelines as far as I can see)
    http://www.cdc.gov/hicpac/pdf/guidelines/Disinfection_Nov_2008.pdf

    This seems to all thats currently new.
    Hope this provides some help with your search.
    Regards,
    Tim..

    Timothy R. Spencer, RN, APN, DipAppSci, Bach.Health, ICCert, VA-BC.
    Independent Vascular Access Consultant
    President, Australian Vascular Access Society
    Conjoint Lecturer, South West Sydney Clinical School | Faculty of Medicine | University of NSW
    Director-at-Large, Vascular Access Certification Corporation (VACC)
    M: +1 (623) 326 8889 (USA)
    M: +61 (0)409 463 428 (AU)
    E: tim.spencer68@icloud.com

    Be a yardstick of quality. Some people aren’t used to an environment where excellence is expected. Steve Jobs

    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of James Rippey
    Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:52 PM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Ultrasound probe cleaning

    Dear Team,

    I am a member of the Standards of Practice Committee for the Australasian Society for Ultrasound in Medicine.

    There remains a great deal of heterogeneity in recommendations regarding cleaning of ultrasound transducers, and conflicting recommendations by various bodies. We also receive pressure from vendors to support their products, usually backed by a host of complicated and difficult to interpret evidence.

    I wondered whether you had specific up to date evidence based references you would recommend us reviewing regarding:

    1. Regular cleaning of ultrasound transducers used on closed skin.

    2. Cleaning of transducers used for intracavity scanning.

    For those of you wishing to read further:

    Currently most ultrasound users are aware they should perform:

    1. Regular cleaning of ultrasound transducers used on closed skin.

    * Clean as you would your hands – wash with warm mild detergent and running water between each patient.
    * Some would use Chlorhexidine wash or alcohol impregnated wipes – although these are not recommended by manufacturers as they may damage the face of the transducer.
    * Where there is contact with body fluids clean as per intracavity transducer.
    2. Cleaning of intracavity transducers – high level disinfection

    * Wash removing all visible gel / residue – running water, mild detergent, wipe dry.
    * Use one of the approved agents according to manufacturer guidelines
    * Including hydrogen peroxide, glutaraldehyde, ortho-phthalaldehyde (OPA)
    * Opinion on chlorine dioxide delivered via the wipe system, and paracetic acid seems divided.
    * The concern regarding the wipes is based on inter user variability.
    * There has been some literature describing paracetic acid damage to endoscopes.
    Your advice is again much appreciated.
    Just want to ensure we remain up to date.

    Sincerely
    James Rippey


    Associate Professor James Rippey

    Emergency Physician
    University of Western Australia
    Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital
    King Edward Memorial Hospital for Women
    Emergency Medicine Lead for the Kimberley

    Mobile 0400990186

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