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11/02/2022 at 11:25 am #79286
Dear Clever People
I work in a residential aged care and am trying to convince my boss that
having clear signage outside a potentially infectious or confirmed
infectious residents room (ie on the door) is best practice.All I can find is SHOULD on page 120 of the Aust Guidelines for Prevention
& Control of Infection in Healthcare.I appreciate any assistance re using any other information to support my
argument.Many thanks in advance
Vanessa Watkins
RN, QM & IPC Lead
Donwood Community Aged Care
Croydon Vic
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11/02/2022 at 12:07 pm #79287Signage colour coded breaks down misunderstandings when multi cultures
exist in the one setting, makes things clear. We have used beetles on
doors, flowers, single large print words red and blue colour to clarify
zones pictures of gowns each. Keep it simple, keep it bright put it
everywhere, compliance is the aim. PPE is defence, communication and
vigilance is strength.
Brian Moore RN
Qld Standing Covid Surge Team Team Lead.On Fri, 11 Feb 2022, 10:41 am Vanessa Davis, wrote:
> Dear Clever People
> I work in a residential aged care and am trying to convince my boss that
> having clear signage outside a potentially infectious or confirmed
> infectious residents room (ie on the door) is best practice.
>
> All I can find is SHOULD on page 120 of the Aust Guidelines for Prevention
> & Control of Infection in Healthcare.
>
> I appreciate any assistance re using any other information to support my
> argument.
>
> Many thanks in advance
>
> Vanessa Watkins
> RN, QM & IPC Lead
> Donwood Community Aged Care
> Croydon Vic
> (03) 9845 8500
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11/02/2022 at 12:09 pm #79289Lincoln Fowler
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Hello Vanessa
The Aged Care Quality and Safety Commission has a checklist in which it asks: Is there prepared signage to communicate lockdown/facility closure and to identify areas that are active COVID-19 consumers zone/cohorts?
https://www.agedcarequality.gov.au/media/88322
So identification of the PPE requirements outside a residents room would be considered a requirement so that staff can identify what is required.
In my opinion osmosis rarely works when information sharing is required.Kind regards
Lincoln Fowler
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I work in a residential aged care and am trying to convince my boss that having clear signage outside a potentially infectious or confirmed infectious residents room (ie on the door) is best practice.All I can find is SHOULD on page 120 of the Aust Guidelines for Prevention & Control of Infection in Healthcare.
I appreciate any assistance re using any other information to support my argument.
Many thanks in advance
Vanessa Watkins
RN, QM & IPC Lead
Donwood Community Aged Care
Croydon Vic
(03) 9845 8500
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11/02/2022 at 12:10 pm #79288Hi Vanessa
This is a difficult one to make a recommendation on that fits all settings, hence the should rather than must.
It is about risk management in the setting at hand. So, if you have a resident with an infection that can be either transmitted to others directly on entering a room, or others could potentially carry =organisms of concern out of the room to expose others, then there needs to be a way to alert anyone entering the room to take certain steps, either to protect themselves or to protect others.
In some settings, the patients may have a known infectious disease, but there is no need for door signage because everyone entering will already have the appropriate PPE on. An example of this is a COVID-19 ward, where there may be restrictions for anyone entering the area to don certain PPE, and this a sign on each patient door is not necessary.
That is one of the reasons why should is used here. In each setting, you need to do a risk assessment to see if a door sign or some type of alert in necessary.
As an aside, Ive had discussions with administrators in aged care facilities and private hospitals who dont want to label patients with a diagnosis as they feel it could breach privacy requirements. But the safety of others needs to be considered, as it could well become a liability for the organisation if not addressed. So the door signs used in the Commonwealth guidelines do not identify specific infections by name, but rather mechanisms of transmission and how they can be prevented.
Hope my rambling helps. Stick to promoting best practice, even though it is not mandated. Think about liability for the organisation if you do not have a risk mitigation strategy like door signs in place.
Cheers
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Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] TBP signage – evidence of MUST HAVEDear Clever People
I work in a residential aged care and am trying to convince my boss that having clear signage outside a potentially infectious or confirmed infectious residents room (ie on the door) is best practice.All I can find is SHOULD on page 120 of the Aust Guidelines for Prevention & Control of Infection in Healthcare.
I appreciate any assistance re using any other information to support my argument.
Many thanks in advance
Vanessa Watkins
RN, QM & IPC Lead
Donwood Community Aged Care
Croydon Vic
(03) 9845 8500
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13/02/2022 at 3:45 pm #79292Anonymous
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Im quite sure using colour coding is better signage.
Green for no infectious, yellow or orange for mild& mod and red is for very infectious. Maybe stickers or paintings.
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Signage colour coded breaks down misunderstandings when multi cultures exist in the one setting, makes things clear. We have used beetles on doors, flowers, single large print words red and blue colour to clarify zones pictures of gowns each. Keep it simple, keep it bright put it everywhere, compliance is the aim. PPE is defence, communication and vigilance is strength.
Brian Moore RN
Qld Standing Covid Surge Team Team Lead.On Fri, 11 Feb 2022, 10:41 am Vanessa Davis, <vanessa.awd@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Clever People
I work in a residential aged care and am trying to convince my boss that having clear signage outside a potentially infectious or confirmed infectious residents room (ie on the door) is best practice.All I can find is SHOULD on page 120 of the Aust Guidelines for Prevention & Control of Infection in Healthcare.
I appreciate any assistance re using any other information to support my argument.
Many thanks in advance
Vanessa Watkins
RN, QM & IPC Lead
Donwood Community Aged Care
Croydon Vic
(03) 9845 8500
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