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Good afternoon all,
This might be the chestnut that keeps giving but I am just wondering what practices are in place at your healthcare facilities with regard to:
1. The wearing of surgical scrubs for endoscopy, bone marrow biopsy, interventional radiology, thoracic procedure areas which may be co-located within general surgical suite/ zone?
2. Staff changing their scrubs when leaving and re-entering the theatre?
3. Staff consumption of food and beverages within the theatre areas including recovery nurses station?
I know it seems common sense and standards are available, but we are constantly informed to provide the evidence. Just wanting to benchmark with other HCF.
Any feedback/comments greatly appreciated.
Kind Regards
Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager -CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
The Royal Adelaide Hospital| Central Adelaide Local Health Network
8E Rm256 Port Road, ADELAIDE 5000
The Queen Elizabeth Hospital | Central Adelaide Local Health Network
Level 8 Tower Building | 28 Woodville Road, WOODVILLE SOUTH 5011
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Hi Marija
Yes, an old chestnut, still causing issues. I have to say upfront, though, that the evidence that scrubs make any difference (in any setting) to reduce infection risk is pretty non-existent. So I consider more an staff aesthetics and protection of clothing issue than an infection n prevention one.
1. Wearing of scrubs in endo and for bronchs is not universal, but staff have the option, when they are done outside the main theatre suite.
2. Bone marrow often biopsied in the ward, and no one has scrubs on. Some are done in Cath lab procedure room, but even then the proceduralists (who is not a cath lab staff member) wears scrubs – they may have a cover gown on rather than scrubs.
3. We have a policy that scrubs are only changed if visibly soiled, or after leaving and re-entering the building (eg walking between hospitals). No cover gowns required when visiting wards, etc, but we try and stop them visiting wards with visibly soiled scrubs!
4. We have designated tea rooms in all procedural areas, so not food outside of these. Staff may have a designated, labelled water bottle (we prefer the non-spill type) within the theatre suite, but not in the actual theatres (difficult to stop our visiting anaesthetists from bringing their drinks in their case and tipping then under their masks during procedures, though… ).
I think because of lack of ‘evidence’ to support any position this will always remain a controversial topic!
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
St Vincent’s Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
E michael.wishart@svha.org.au |
W https://www.svphn.org.au[cid:image001.jpg@01D46C86.4CDB6090]
[2019 conference email signature]Good afternoon all,
This might be the chestnut that keeps giving but I am just wondering what practices are in place at your healthcare facilities with regard to:
1. The wearing of surgical scrubs for endoscopy, bone marrow biopsy, interventional radiology, thoracic procedure areas which may be co-located within general surgical suite/ zone?
2. Staff changing their scrubs when leaving and re-entering the theatre?
3. Staff consumption of food and beverages within the theatre areas including recovery nurses station?
I know it seems common sense and standards are available, but we are constantly informed to provide the evidence. Just wanting to benchmark with other HCF.
Any feedback/comments greatly appreciated.
Kind Regards
Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager -CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
The Royal Adelaide Hospital| Central Adelaide Local Health Network
8E Rm256 Port Road, ADELAIDE 5000
The Queen Elizabeth Hospital | Central Adelaide Local Health Network
Level 8 Tower Building | 28 Woodville Road, WOODVILLE SOUTH 5011
t: +61 8 7074 2810 (RAH) 8222 7588 (TQEH)| f: +61 8 7074 6228 (RAH) +61 8 8222 6461 (TQEH) | m: 0466 379 821|DX: 465432 (TQEH) |e:marija.juraja@sa.gov.au |web: IPCU Intranet Site and Resources
Adjunct Clinical Lecturer | University of South Australia | Division of Health Sciences
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Hi
I just wondered whether you had contacted the Australian College of periOperative Nurses (ACORN) regarding their standards which address these concerns?
Kind regardsCarol
Carolyn Saunders
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0417 902 854> On 21 Feb 2019, at 11:59 am, Juraja, Marija (Health) wrote:
>
> Good afternoon all,
>
> This might be the chestnut that keeps giving but I am just wondering what practices are in place at your healthcare facilities with regard to:
> 1. The wearing of surgical scrubs for endoscopy, bone marrow biopsy, interventional radiology, thoracic procedure areas which may be co-located within general surgical suite/ zone?
> 2. Staff changing their scrubs when leaving and re-entering the theatre?
> 3. Staff consumption of food and beverages within the theatre areas including recovery nurses station?
>
> I know it seems common sense and standards are available, but we are constantly informed to provide the evidence. Just wanting to benchmark with other HCF.
>
> Any feedback/comments greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
> Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
> The Royal Adelaide Hospital| Central Adelaide Local Health Network
> 8E Rm256 Port Road, ADELAIDE 5000
> The Queen Elizabeth Hospital | Central Adelaide Local Health Network
> Level 8 Tower Building | 28 Woodville Road, WOODVILLE SOUTH 5011
> t: +61 8 7074 2810 (RAH) 8222 7588 (TQEH)| f: +61 8 7074 6228 (RAH) +61 8 8222 6461 (TQEH) | m: 0466 379 821|DX: 465432 (TQEH) |e:marija.juraja@sa.gov.au |web: IPCU Intranet Site and Resources
> Adjunct Clinical Lecturer | University of South Australia | Division of Health Sciences
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Apologies, Steven, I forgot to ask you to fully identify yourself before I approved this post, although I am sure you are an employee of Draeger…
My response to this idea would be that it would not fit neatly into out scrub uniform policy. We require any person entering the OR suite to change out of clothes that are worn outside the hospital buildings into freshly laundered scrubs. Company reps would need to bring their freshly laundered scrubs with them to change into, and if they visited many hospital in a day this would be problematic.
It is a good idea for identification of company reps, but maybe not with specific scrubs.
Will be interested in further comments, though.
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
St Vincent’s Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
E michael.wishart@svha.org.au |
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[2019 conference email signature]Afternoon All
We are considering “company scrubs” , branded, to help identify company reps who often work in direct clinical areas where scrubs are worn , especially in the OR.
We would like the group verdict on this proposal.
Issues already consideredClean and correctly fitted scrubs
Regular laundry , with several sets per rep.
Disposable scrubs? …
Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gren
Steven Doak
Hi Marija
Yes, an old chestnut, still causing issues. I have to say upfront, though, that the evidence that scrubs make any difference (in any setting) to reduce infection risk is pretty non-existent. So I consider more an staff aesthetics and protection of clothing issue than an infection n prevention one.
1. Wearing of scrubs in endo and for bronchs is not universal, but staff have the option, when they are done outside the main theatre suite.
2. Bone marrow often biopsied in the ward, and no one has scrubs on. Some are done in Cath lab procedure room, but even then the proceduralists (who is not a cath lab staff member) wears scrubs – they may have a cover gown on rather than scrubs.
3. We have a policy that scrubs are only changed if visibly soiled, or after leaving and re-entering the building (eg walking between hospitals). No cover gowns required when visiting wards, etc, but we try and stop them visiting wards with visibly soiled scrubs!
4. We have designated tea rooms in all procedural areas, so not food outside of these. Staff may have a designated, labelled water bottle (we prefer the non-spill type) within the theatre suite, but not in the actual theatres (difficult to stop our visiting anaesthetists from bringing their drinks in their case and tipping then under their masks during procedures, though… ).
I think because of lack of ‘evidence’ to support any position this will always remain a controversial topic!
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
St Vincent’s Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
E michael.wishart@svha.org.au |
W https://www.svphn.org.au[cid:image001.jpg@01D46C86.4CDB6090]
[2019 conference email signature]Good afternoon all,
This might be the chestnut that keeps giving but I am just wondering what practices are in place at your healthcare facilities with regard to:
1. The wearing of surgical scrubs for endoscopy, bone marrow biopsy, interventional radiology, thoracic procedure areas which may be co-located within general surgical suite/ zone?
2. Staff changing their scrubs when leaving and re-entering the theatre?
3. Staff consumption of food and beverages within the theatre areas including recovery nurses station?
I know it seems common sense and standards are available, but we are constantly informed to provide the evidence. Just wanting to benchmark with other HCF.
Any feedback/comments greatly appreciated.
Kind Regards
Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager -CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
The Royal Adelaide Hospital| Central Adelaide Local Health Network
8E Rm256 Port Road, ADELAIDE 5000
The Queen Elizabeth Hospital | Central Adelaide Local Health Network
Level 8 Tower Building | 28 Woodville Road, WOODVILLE SOUTH 5011
t: +61 8 7074 2810 (RAH) 8222 7588 (TQEH)| f: +61 8 7074 6228 (RAH) +61 8 8222 6461 (TQEH) | m: 0466 379 821|DX: 465432 (TQEH) |e:marija.juraja@sa.gov.au |web: IPCU Intranet Site and Resources
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We ask our Reps to change whilst in the facility/operating change room into our scrubs that have been adequately laundered and stored as per Laundry Standard 4146
We have an visitor registration book in theatres with associated name badges for identification & security purposes
Thanks EmmaEmma Trippe
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http://www.calvarycare.org.au.Apologies, Steven, I forgot to ask you to fully identify yourself before I approved this post, although I am sure you are an employee of Draeger…
My response to this idea would be that it would not fit neatly into out scrub uniform policy. We require any person entering the OR suite to change out of clothes that are worn outside the hospital buildings into freshly laundered scrubs. Company reps would need to bring their freshly laundered scrubs with them to change into, and if they visited many hospital in a day this would be problematic.
It is a good idea for identification of company reps, but maybe not with specific scrubs.
Will be interested in further comments, though.
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
St Vincent’s Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
E michael.wishart@svha.org.au |
W https://www.svphn.org.au[cid:image001.jpg@01D46C86.4CDB6090]
[2019 conference email signature]Afternoon All
We are considering “company scrubs” , branded, to help identify company reps who often work in direct clinical areas where scrubs are worn , especially in the OR.
We would like the group verdict on this proposal.
Issues already consideredClean and correctly fitted scrubs
Regular laundry , with several sets per rep.
Disposable scrubs? …
Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gren
Steven Doak
Hi Marija
Yes, an old chestnut, still causing issues. I have to say upfront, though, that the evidence that scrubs make any difference (in any setting) to reduce infection risk is pretty non-existent. So I consider more an staff aesthetics and protection of clothing issue than an infection n prevention one.
1. Wearing of scrubs in endo and for bronchs is not universal, but staff have the option, when they are done outside the main theatre suite.
2. Bone marrow often biopsied in the ward, and no one has scrubs on. Some are done in Cath lab procedure room, but even then the proceduralists (who is not a cath lab staff member) wears scrubs – they may have a cover gown on rather than scrubs.
3. We have a policy that scrubs are only changed if visibly soiled, or after leaving and re-entering the building (eg walking between hospitals). No cover gowns required when visiting wards, etc, but we try and stop them visiting wards with visibly soiled scrubs!
4. We have designated tea rooms in all procedural areas, so not food outside of these. Staff may have a designated, labelled water bottle (we prefer the non-spill type) within the theatre suite, but not in the actual theatres (difficult to stop our visiting anaesthetists from bringing their drinks in their case and tipping then under their masks during procedures, though… ).
I think because of lack of ‘evidence’ to support any position this will always remain a controversial topic!
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
St Vincent’s Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
E michael.wishart@svha.org.au |
W https://www.svphn.org.au[cid:image001.jpg@01D46C86.4CDB6090]
[2019 conference email signature]Good afternoon all,
This might be the chestnut that keeps giving but I am just wondering what practices are in place at your healthcare facilities with regard to:
1. The wearing of surgical scrubs for endoscopy, bone marrow biopsy, interventional radiology, thoracic procedure areas which may be co-located within general surgical suite/ zone?
2. Staff changing their scrubs when leaving and re-entering the theatre?
3. Staff consumption of food and beverages within the theatre areas including recovery nurses station?
I know it seems common sense and standards are available, but we are constantly informed to provide the evidence. Just wanting to benchmark with other HCF.
Any feedback/comments greatly appreciated.
Kind Regards
Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager -CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
The Royal Adelaide Hospital| Central Adelaide Local Health Network
8E Rm256 Port Road, ADELAIDE 5000
The Queen Elizabeth Hospital | Central Adelaide Local Health Network
Level 8 Tower Building | 28 Woodville Road, WOODVILLE SOUTH 5011
t: +61 8 7074 2810 (RAH) 8222 7588 (TQEH)| f: +61 8 7074 6228 (RAH) +61 8 8222 6461 (TQEH) | m: 0466 379 821|DX: 465432 (TQEH) |e:marija.juraja@sa.gov.au |web: IPCU Intranet Site and Resources
Adjunct Clinical Lecturer | University of South Australia | Division of Health Sciences
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Michael,
Yes , it is understood that a fresh set per department (even within the same hospital) would be required. This would be our policy
As indicated, we are also exploring the disposable option, or even reusable branded hats, and hospital issued scrubs.Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gren
Steven Doak
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8 Acacia Place
Notting Hill VIC 3168
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Apologies, Steven, I forgot to ask you to fully identify yourself before I approved this post, although I am sure you are an employee of Draeger…
My response to this idea would be that it would not fit neatly into out scrub uniform policy. We require any person entering the OR suite to change out of clothes that are worn outside the hospital buildings into freshly laundered scrubs. Company reps would need to bring their freshly laundered scrubs with them to change into, and if they visited many hospital in a day this would be problematic.
It is a good idea for identification of company reps, but maybe not with specific scrubs.
Will be interested in further comments, though.
Cheers
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[2019 conference email signature]Afternoon All
We are considering “company scrubs” , branded, to help identify company reps who often work in direct clinical areas where scrubs are worn , especially in the OR.
We would like the group verdict on this proposal.
Issues already consideredClean and correctly fitted scrubs
Regular laundry , with several sets per rep.
Disposable scrubs? …
Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gren
Steven Doak
Hi Marija
Yes, an old chestnut, still causing issues. I have to say upfront, though, that the evidence that scrubs make any difference (in any setting) to reduce infection risk is pretty non-existent. So I consider more an staff aesthetics and protection of clothing issue than an infection n prevention one.
1. Wearing of scrubs in endo and for bronchs is not universal, but staff have the option, when they are done outside the main theatre suite.
2. Bone marrow often biopsied in the ward, and no one has scrubs on. Some are done in Cath lab procedure room, but even then the proceduralists (who is not a cath lab staff member) wears scrubs – they may have a cover gown on rather than scrubs.
3. We have a policy that scrubs are only changed if visibly soiled, or after leaving and re-entering the building (eg walking between hospitals). No cover gowns required when visiting wards, etc, but we try and stop them visiting wards with visibly soiled scrubs!
4. We have designated tea rooms in all procedural areas, so not food outside of these. Staff may have a designated, labelled water bottle (we prefer the non-spill type) within the theatre suite, but not in the actual theatres (difficult to stop our visiting anaesthetists from bringing their drinks in their case and tipping then under their masks during procedures, though… ).
I think because of lack of ‘evidence’ to support any position this will always remain a controversial topic!
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
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[2019 conference email signature]Good afternoon all,
This might be the chestnut that keeps giving but I am just wondering what practices are in place at your healthcare facilities with regard to:
1. The wearing of surgical scrubs for endoscopy, bone marrow biopsy, interventional radiology, thoracic procedure areas which may be co-located within general surgical suite/ zone?
2. Staff changing their scrubs when leaving and re-entering the theatre?
3. Staff consumption of food and beverages within the theatre areas including recovery nurses station?
I know it seems common sense and standards are available, but we are constantly informed to provide the evidence. Just wanting to benchmark with other HCF.
Any feedback/comments greatly appreciated.
Kind Regards
Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager -CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
The Royal Adelaide Hospital| Central Adelaide Local Health Network
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Hello colleagues
Suggestion re improving vendor in periop environment question
Just one idea I thought to share that is already occurring internally at hospitals that some of you may already be aware of that perhaps could be adapted?
There has been a lot of twitter discussion & momentum around patient safety in the Operating room and communication called #TheatreCapChallenge
it involves staff identifying themselves on their headwear. Some are doing this with their name & roles embroidered on their caps (much like some have on their scrubs in wards or wear as their staff ID ) …others write their name & role on tape and attach it to their caps (so it meets the policy / procedure of the health service around headwear if they can only wear disposable )anyhow Just thought this may be a concept that could also work for external providers to be identified with their name and company rather than need various sets of scrubs as the vendors could have a few clean cloth ones on hand to wear if going to various sites …..or even just have personalised stickers made on a role to place on disposable caps as per the vimeo link attached mentions?
I have attached some links re discussion about this should this be a of interest
https://www.mdmag.com/medical-news/can-the-theatre-cap-challenge-solve-patient-safety
good luck
kind regards
Lindy
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(Florence Nightingale Circa 1860)We ask our Reps to change whilst in the facility/operating change room into our scrubs that have been adequately laundered and stored as per Laundry Standard 4146
We have an visitor registration book in theatres with associated name badges for identification & security purposes
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http://www.calvarycare.org.au.Apologies, Steven, I forgot to ask you to fully identify yourself before I approved this post, although I am sure you are an employee of Draeger…
My response to this idea would be that it would not fit neatly into out scrub uniform policy. We require any person entering the OR suite to change out of clothes that are worn outside the hospital buildings into freshly laundered scrubs. Company reps would need to bring their freshly laundered scrubs with them to change into, and if they visited many hospital in a day this would be problematic.
It is a good idea for identification of company reps, but maybe not with specific scrubs.
Will be interested in further comments, though.
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
St Vincent’s Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
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[2019 conference email signature]Afternoon All
We are considering “company scrubs” , branded, to help identify company reps who often work in direct clinical areas where scrubs are worn , especially in the OR.
We would like the group verdict on this proposal.
Issues already consideredClean and correctly fitted scrubs
Regular laundry , with several sets per rep.
Disposable scrubs? …
Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gren
Steven Doak
Hi Marija
Yes, an old chestnut, still causing issues. I have to say upfront, though, that the evidence that scrubs make any difference (in any setting) to reduce infection risk is pretty non-existent. So I consider more an staff aesthetics and protection of clothing issue than an infection n prevention one.
1. Wearing of scrubs in endo and for bronchs is not universal, but staff have the option, when they are done outside the main theatre suite.
2. Bone marrow often biopsied in the ward, and no one has scrubs on. Some are done in Cath lab procedure room, but even then the proceduralists (who is not a cath lab staff member) wears scrubs – they may have a cover gown on rather than scrubs.
3. We have a policy that scrubs are only changed if visibly soiled, or after leaving and re-entering the building (eg walking between hospitals). No cover gowns required when visiting wards, etc, but we try and stop them visiting wards with visibly soiled scrubs!
4. We have designated tea rooms in all procedural areas, so not food outside of these. Staff may have a designated, labelled water bottle (we prefer the non-spill type) within the theatre suite, but not in the actual theatres (difficult to stop our visiting anaesthetists from bringing their drinks in their case and tipping then under their masks during procedures, though… ).
I think because of lack of ‘evidence’ to support any position this will always remain a controversial topic!
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
St Vincent’s Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
E michael.wishart@svha.org.au |
W https://www.svphn.org.au[cid:image001.jpg@01D46C86.4CDB6090]
[2019 conference email signature]Good afternoon all,
This might be the chestnut that keeps giving but I am just wondering what practices are in place at your healthcare facilities with regard to:
1. The wearing of surgical scrubs for endoscopy, bone marrow biopsy, interventional radiology, thoracic procedure areas which may be co-located within general surgical suite/ zone?
2. Staff changing their scrubs when leaving and re-entering the theatre?
3. Staff consumption of food and beverages within the theatre areas including recovery nurses station?
I know it seems common sense and standards are available, but we are constantly informed to provide the evidence. Just wanting to benchmark with other HCF.
Any feedback/comments greatly appreciated.
Kind Regards
Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager -CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
The Royal Adelaide Hospital| Central Adelaide Local Health Network
8E Rm256 Port Road, ADELAIDE 5000
The Queen Elizabeth Hospital | Central Adelaide Local Health Network
Level 8 Tower Building | 28 Woodville Road, WOODVILLE SOUTH 5011
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Thanks Steven
I think reusable hats would be problematic in some facilities where they have been banned (ACORN recommendation).
My OT NUM noted that some facilities have disposable scrub ‘vending machines’ from which company reps purchase scrubs to wear. Maybe that is something the industry could review as an option?
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
St Vincent’s Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
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[2019 conference email signature]Michael,
Yes , it is understood that a fresh set per department (even within the same hospital) would be required. This would be our policy
As indicated, we are also exploring the disposable option, or even reusable branded hats, and hospital issued scrubs.Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gren
Steven Doak
Marketing Manager
Hospital Consumables & AccessoriesDraeger Australia Pty. Ltd.
8 Acacia Place
Notting Hill VIC 3168
Steven.Doak@draeger.com
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Apologies, Steven, I forgot to ask you to fully identify yourself before I approved this post, although I am sure you are an employee of Draeger…
My response to this idea would be that it would not fit neatly into out scrub uniform policy. We require any person entering the OR suite to change out of clothes that are worn outside the hospital buildings into freshly laundered scrubs. Company reps would need to bring their freshly laundered scrubs with them to change into, and if they visited many hospital in a day this would be problematic.
It is a good idea for identification of company reps, but maybe not with specific scrubs.
Will be interested in further comments, though.
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
St Vincent’s Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
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[2019 conference email signature]Afternoon All
We are considering “company scrubs” , branded, to help identify company reps who often work in direct clinical areas where scrubs are worn , especially in the OR.
We would like the group verdict on this proposal.
Issues already consideredClean and correctly fitted scrubs
Regular laundry , with several sets per rep.
Disposable scrubs? …
Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gren
Steven Doak
Hi Marija
Yes, an old chestnut, still causing issues. I have to say upfront, though, that the evidence that scrubs make any difference (in any setting) to reduce infection risk is pretty non-existent. So I consider more an staff aesthetics and protection of clothing issue than an infection n prevention one.
1. Wearing of scrubs in endo and for bronchs is not universal, but staff have the option, when they are done outside the main theatre suite.
2. Bone marrow often biopsied in the ward, and no one has scrubs on. Some are done in Cath lab procedure room, but even then the proceduralists (who is not a cath lab staff member) wears scrubs – they may have a cover gown on rather than scrubs.
3. We have a policy that scrubs are only changed if visibly soiled, or after leaving and re-entering the building (eg walking between hospitals). No cover gowns required when visiting wards, etc, but we try and stop them visiting wards with visibly soiled scrubs!
4. We have designated tea rooms in all procedural areas, so not food outside of these. Staff may have a designated, labelled water bottle (we prefer the non-spill type) within the theatre suite, but not in the actual theatres (difficult to stop our visiting anaesthetists from bringing their drinks in their case and tipping then under their masks during procedures, though… ).
I think because of lack of ‘evidence’ to support any position this will always remain a controversial topic!
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
St Vincent’s Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
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[2019 conference email signature]Good afternoon all,
This might be the chestnut that keeps giving but I am just wondering what practices are in place at your healthcare facilities with regard to:
1. The wearing of surgical scrubs for endoscopy, bone marrow biopsy, interventional radiology, thoracic procedure areas which may be co-located within general surgical suite/ zone?
2. Staff changing their scrubs when leaving and re-entering the theatre?
3. Staff consumption of food and beverages within the theatre areas including recovery nurses station?
I know it seems common sense and standards are available, but we are constantly informed to provide the evidence. Just wanting to benchmark with other HCF.
Any feedback/comments greatly appreciated.
Kind Regards
Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager -CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
The Royal Adelaide Hospital| Central Adelaide Local Health Network
8E Rm256 Port Road, ADELAIDE 5000
The Queen Elizabeth Hospital | Central Adelaide Local Health Network
Level 8 Tower Building | 28 Woodville Road, WOODVILLE SOUTH 5011
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As a rep myself I have been to hospitals where they have a designated colour of scrubs for non staff and others that have different colour disposable hats for different people separating staff, reps and students.
These seem to work well as options.Thanks
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Thanks Steven
I think reusable hats would be problematic in some facilities where they have been banned (ACORN recommendation).
My OT NUM noted that some facilities have disposable scrub vending machines from which company reps purchase scrubs to wear. Maybe that is something the industry could review as an option?
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
St Vincents Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
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[2019 conference email signature]From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of Doak, Steven
Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2019 10:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Surgical Scrubs, food and drink and Theatre/Interventional AreasMichael,
Yes , it is understood that a fresh set per department (even within the same hospital) would be required. This would be our policy
As indicated, we are also exploring the disposable option, or even reusable branded hats, and hospital issued scrubs.Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gren
Steven Doak
Marketing Manager
Hospital Consumables & AccessoriesDraeger Australia Pty. Ltd.
8 Acacia Place
Notting Hill VIC 3168
Tel: +61 3 9244 7219
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From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Michael Wishart
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Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Surgical Scrubs, food and drink and Theatre/Interventional AreasApologies, Steven, I forgot to ask you to fully identify yourself before I approved this post, although I am sure you are an employee of Draeger
My response to this idea would be that it would not fit neatly into out scrub uniform policy. We require any person entering the OR suite to change out of clothes that are worn outside the hospital buildings into freshly laundered scrubs. Company reps would need to bring their freshly laundered scrubs with them to change into, and if they visited many hospital in a day this would be problematic.
It is a good idea for identification of company reps, but maybe not with specific scrubs.
Will be interested in further comments, though.
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
St Vincents Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
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[2019 conference email signature]From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of Doak, Steven
Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2019 10:02 AM
To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Surgical Scrubs, food and drink and Theatre/Interventional AreasAfternoon All
We are considering company scrubs , branded, to help identify company reps who often work in direct clinical areas where scrubs are worn , especially in the OR.
We would like the group verdict on this proposal.
Issues already consideredClean and correctly fitted scrubs
Regular laundry , with several sets per rep.
Disposable scrubs?
Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gren
Steven Doak
Mobile: +61 421 612 736
Steven.Doak@draeger.com
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Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 3:32 PM
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Subject: Re: Surgical Scrubs, food and drink and Theatre/Interventional AreasHi Marija
Yes, an old chestnut, still causing issues. I have to say upfront, though, that the evidence that scrubs make any difference (in any setting) to reduce infection risk is pretty non-existent. So I consider more an staff aesthetics and protection of clothing issue than an infection n prevention one.
1. Wearing of scrubs in endo and for bronchs is not universal, but staff have the option, when they are done outside the main theatre suite.
2. Bone marrow often biopsied in the ward, and no one has scrubs on. Some are done in Cath lab procedure room, but even then the proceduralists (who is not a cath lab staff member) wears scrubs – they may have a cover gown on rather than scrubs.
3. We have a policy that scrubs are only changed if visibly soiled, or after leaving and re-entering the building (eg walking between hospitals). No cover gowns required when visiting wards, etc, but we try and stop them visiting wards with visibly soiled scrubs!
4. We have designated tea rooms in all procedural areas, so not food outside of these. Staff may have a designated, labelled water bottle (we prefer the non-spill type) within the theatre suite, but not in the actual theatres (difficult to stop our visiting anaesthetists from bringing their drinks in their case and tipping then under their masks during procedures, though ).
I think because of lack of evidence to support any position this will always remain a controversial topic!
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
St Vincents Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
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Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2019 2:00 PM
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Subject: Surgical Scrubs, food and drink and Theatre/Interventional AreasGood afternoon all,
This might be the chestnut that keeps giving but I am just wondering what practices are in place at your healthcare facilities with regard to:
1. The wearing of surgical scrubs for endoscopy, bone marrow biopsy, interventional radiology, thoracic procedure areas which may be co-located within general surgical suite/ zone?
2. Staff changing their scrubs when leaving and re-entering the theatre?
3. Staff consumption of food and beverages within the theatre areas including recovery nurses station?
I know it seems common sense and standards are available, but we are constantly informed to provide the evidence. Just wanting to benchmark with other HCF.
Any feedback/comments greatly appreciated.
Kind Regards
Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
The Royal Adelaide Hospital| Central Adelaide Local Health Network
8E Rm256 Port Road, ADELAIDE 5000
The Queen Elizabeth Hospital | Central Adelaide Local Health Network
Level 8 Tower Building | 28 Woodville Road, WOODVILLE SOUTH 5011
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We use disposable Scrubs vending machines here, which work all.
The Company Rep must purchase a pair before entering to the Theatre complex, and it aids identifying company reps in the Theatres.
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Thanks Steven
I think reusable hats would be problematic in some facilities where they have been banned (ACORN recommendation).
My OT NUM noted that some facilities have disposable scrub ‘vending machines’ from which company reps purchase scrubs to wear. Maybe that is something the industry could review as an option?
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[2019 conference email signature]Michael,
Yes , it is understood that a fresh set per department (even within the same hospital) would be required. This would be our policy
As indicated, we are also exploring the disposable option, or even reusable branded hats, and hospital issued scrubs.Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gren
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Apologies, Steven, I forgot to ask you to fully identify yourself before I approved this post, although I am sure you are an employee of Draeger…
My response to this idea would be that it would not fit neatly into out scrub uniform policy. We require any person entering the OR suite to change out of clothes that are worn outside the hospital buildings into freshly laundered scrubs. Company reps would need to bring their freshly laundered scrubs with them to change into, and if they visited many hospital in a day this would be problematic.
It is a good idea for identification of company reps, but maybe not with specific scrubs.
Will be interested in further comments, though.
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[2019 conference email signature]Afternoon All
We are considering “company scrubs” , branded, to help identify company reps who often work in direct clinical areas where scrubs are worn , especially in the OR.
We would like the group verdict on this proposal.
Issues already consideredClean and correctly fitted scrubs
Regular laundry , with several sets per rep.
Disposable scrubs? …
Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gren
Steven Doak
Hi Marija
Yes, an old chestnut, still causing issues. I have to say upfront, though, that the evidence that scrubs make any difference (in any setting) to reduce infection risk is pretty non-existent. So I consider more an staff aesthetics and protection of clothing issue than an infection n prevention one.
1. Wearing of scrubs in endo and for bronchs is not universal, but staff have the option, when they are done outside the main theatre suite.
2. Bone marrow often biopsied in the ward, and no one has scrubs on. Some are done in Cath lab procedure room, but even then the proceduralists (who is not a cath lab staff member) wears scrubs – they may have a cover gown on rather than scrubs.
3. We have a policy that scrubs are only changed if visibly soiled, or after leaving and re-entering the building (eg walking between hospitals). No cover gowns required when visiting wards, etc, but we try and stop them visiting wards with visibly soiled scrubs!
4. We have designated tea rooms in all procedural areas, so not food outside of these. Staff may have a designated, labelled water bottle (we prefer the non-spill type) within the theatre suite, but not in the actual theatres (difficult to stop our visiting anaesthetists from bringing their drinks in their case and tipping then under their masks during procedures, though… ).
I think because of lack of ‘evidence’ to support any position this will always remain a controversial topic!
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[2019 conference email signature]Good afternoon all,
This might be the chestnut that keeps giving but I am just wondering what practices are in place at your healthcare facilities with regard to:
1. The wearing of surgical scrubs for endoscopy, bone marrow biopsy, interventional radiology, thoracic procedure areas which may be co-located within general surgical suite/ zone?
2. Staff changing their scrubs when leaving and re-entering the theatre?
3. Staff consumption of food and beverages within the theatre areas including recovery nurses station?
I know it seems common sense and standards are available, but we are constantly informed to provide the evidence. Just wanting to benchmark with other HCF.
Any feedback/comments greatly appreciated.
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Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager -CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
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