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    robertsh@sath.org.au
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    I am after some advice in regards to Surgical Antimicrobial Prophylaxis audit I complete.

    Currently, our hospital has always just used the Australian Therapeutic guidelines to complete the audits.

    One of the surgeons was not happy that his percentage was very low.
    He has requested that I used the Surgical Antimicrobial Prophylaxis Clinical guidelines which would give him a 90% pass rate.

    If reference to the Antimicrobial Stewardship Clinical Care Standard, the Therapeutic Good Association (TGA) or evidence-based, locally endorsed guidelines are appropriate to prescribe and audit against.

    https://www.safetyandquality.gov.au/our-work/clinical-care-standards/antimicrobial-stewardship-clinical-care-standard/health-service-organisations-antimicrobial-stewardship-clinical-care-standard

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    My question is,

    What do other hospital do?
    Do you just used the Australian Therapeutic Guide or do you use evidenced based locally endorsed guidelines?

    Thanks for your assistance
    Helen

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    Michael Wishart
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    Hi Helene

    We use some locally endorsed clinical guidelines, and where there are none, Guidelines Therapeutic Antibiotic.

    We have access to some very good infectious diseases and clinical microbiology opinions though. I would caution you to allow a group of surgeons only to set up an agreed local guideline with no ID or clinical microbiology input or advice. Local guidelines should be not only good clinical practice, but also take into account costs, possible effects on antimicrobial resistance, and local antibiogram information.

    Im not sure what access you have to ID physicians and clinical microbiologists, but without these any local clinical guidelines developed by a surgical group could be outside of what the ACSQHC requires for local guidelines.

    THE ACSQHC states:

    Organisations using evidence-based locally-endorsed guidelines in addition to or in place of
    Therapeutic Guidelines, are to ensure:
    They comply with the description provided in the AMS Clinical Care Standard
    Can demonstrate local guidelines are based on Therapeutic Guidelines5
    Have documented any deviation from the Therapeutic Guidelines including a clear
    rationale based on published clinical evidence and local epidemiology
    The organisations governing body endorse the guidelines following review of
    information from peer review processes conducted by a drug and therapeutics
    committee, an antimicrobial stewardship committee, a medicines advisory
    committee, or equivalent.
    NSQHS Standards Advisory AS18/01: Advice on not applicable actions, July 2021 (safetyandquality.gov.au)

    There may be very valid reasons why the Therapeutic Guidelines Antibiotic might be different from your surgeons clinical practice, and these should be worked through rather than just overwritten.

    My opinion, anyway.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    I am after some advice in regards to Surgical Antimicrobial Prophylaxis audit I complete.

    Currently, our hospital has always just used the Australian Therapeutic guidelines to complete the audits.

    One of the surgeons was not happy that his percentage was very low.
    He has requested that I used the Surgical Antimicrobial Prophylaxis Clinical guidelines which would give him a 90% pass rate.

    If reference to the Antimicrobial Stewardship Clinical Care Standard, the Therapeutic Good Association (TGA) or evidence-based, locally endorsed guidelines are appropriate to prescribe and audit against.

    https://www.safetyandquality.gov.au/our-work/clinical-care-standards/antimicrobial-stewardship-clinical-care-standard/health-service-organisations-antimicrobial-stewardship-clinical-care-standard

    [cid:image002.jpg@01D7D9F7.EA828210]

    My question is,

    What do other hospital do?
    Do you just used the Australian Therapeutic Guide or do you use evidenced based locally endorsed guidelines?

    Thanks for your assistance
    Helen

    Helen Roberts

    Infection Control

    P:

    07 4646 3106

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    07 4633 7602

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    robertsh@sath.org.au

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    http://www.sath.org.au

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    PO Box 263, Toowoomba, QLD 4350

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    280 North St, Toowoomba, QLD 4350

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