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    Hi everyone,

    I have recently come across a practice of storing human tissue i.e. skin in
    the same fridge as drugs.

    I was wondering if anyone could point me to the reference where it clearly
    states that this is not an acceptable practice? A quick internet search
    hasn’t been helpful.

    Thanks in anticipation.

    Regards

    Terry McAuley

    Sterilisation & Infection Control Consultant

    STEAM Consulting

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    #69818
    Michael Wishart
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    Hi Terry

    We looked at storage of human skin recently, as we were using a fridge that was used to store lab specimens. Provided you have a temperature monitored and maintained fridge with appropriate alarms and checks, and provided the tissue is labelled with name and date of collection / expiry, and sealed into its own container, we couldn’t find any guidelines that specified what else could be storied in the fridge with it.

    We have changed our practice here, though, and now store these tissues in a blood fridge, as that has is attached to a monitored alarm system. Whereas the pathology fridge just beeps to itself in the pathology room where no one can hear it.

    If anyone has actual tissue storage guidelines that specify more clearly where these tissues can be stored I would be interested as well.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
    627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032
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    Hi everyone,

    I have recently come across a practice of storing human tissue i.e. skin in the same fridge as drugs.

    I was wondering if anyone could point me to the reference where it clearly states that this is not an acceptable practice? A quick internet search hasn’t been helpful.

    Thanks in anticipation.

    Regards
    Terry McAuley
    Sterilisation & Infection Control Consultant
    STEAM Consulting
    E: terry@steamconsulting.com.au
    W: http://www.steamconsulting.com.au
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    #69823
    Diane Hobday
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    Hi all

    I can’t find anything specific in any of the Standards – what Terry says is covering most bases (because a blood fridge has better monitoring than a path fridge).

    If you want a definitive answer I would encourage you to contact the Donor Tissue Bank of Victoria at the Victorian Institute of Forensic Medicine (VIFM). They are a state-of-the-art public tissue bank, and will be able to give you advice about best practice and applicable standards.

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    Hi Terry

    We looked at storage of human skin recently, as we were using a fridge that was used to store lab specimens. Provided you have a temperature monitored and maintained fridge with appropriate alarms and checks, and provided the tissue is labelled with name and date of collection / expiry, and sealed into its own container, we couldn’t find any guidelines that specified what else could be storied in the fridge with it.

    We have changed our practice here, though, and now store these tissues in a blood fridge, as that has is attached to a monitored alarm system. Whereas the pathology fridge just beeps to itself in the pathology room where no one can hear it.

    If anyone has actual tissue storage guidelines that specify more clearly where these tissues can be stored I would be interested as well.

    Cheers
    Michael

    Michael Wishart
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    Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
    627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032
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    Hi everyone,

    I have recently come across a practice of storing human tissue i.e. skin in the same fridge as drugs.

    I was wondering if anyone could point me to the reference where it clearly states that this is not an acceptable practice? A quick internet search hasn’t been helpful.

    Thanks in anticipation.

    Regards
    Terry McAuley
    Sterilisation & Infection Control Consultant
    STEAM Consulting
    E: terry@steamconsulting.com.au
    W: http://www.steamconsulting.com.au
    A: PO BOX 779
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    VIC Australia 3802

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    #69835
    Julie Hunt
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    Hi Terry,

    There is some information on the storage of tissue in:
    Therapeutic Goods Act 1089
    Section 10
    Standards for Human skin

    It doesn’t go into specific types of refrigeration, only temperatures and duration and that collected human skin must be sampled for bioburden, using a validated sampling technique prior to being packaged and, when packaged, must be packaged within at least one moisture impermeable barrier using an aseptic technique and stored
    in accordance with conditions and duration specified and justified by validation data or documented evidence from the relevant scientific literature

    Regards

    Julie

    Julie Hunt
    Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention and Control
    Royal North Shore Hospital, Reserve Rd, St Leonards 2065
    Tel 02 99264339 or 99264490 juhunt@nsccahs.health.nsw.gov.au

    >>> Michael Wishart 11/03/2013 2:15 pm >>>
    Hi Terry

    We looked at storage of human skin recently, as we were using a fridge that was used to store lab specimens. Provided you have a temperature monitored and maintained fridge with appropriate alarms and checks, and provided the tissue is labelled with name and date of collection / expiry, and sealed into its own container, we couldn’t find any guidelines that specified what else could be storied in the fridge with it.

    We have changed our practice here, though, and now store these tissues in a blood fridge, as that has is attached to a monitored alarm system. Whereas the pathology fridge just beeps to itself in the pathology room where no one can hear it.

    If anyone has actual tissue storage guidelines that specify more clearly where these tissues can be stored I would be interested as well.

    Cheers
    Michael

    Michael Wishart
    CNC Infection Control
    Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
    627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032
    t: (07) 3326 3068 | f: (07) 3607 2226
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    Hi everyone,

    I have recently come across a practice of storing human tissue i.e. skin in the same fridge as drugs.

    I was wondering if anyone could point me to the reference where it clearly states that this is not an acceptable practice? A quick internet search hasn’t been helpful.

    Thanks in anticipation.

    Regards
    Terry McAuley
    Sterilisation & Infection Control Consultant
    STEAM Consulting
    E: terry@steamconsulting.com.au
    W: http://www.steamconsulting.com.au
    A: PO BOX 779
    Endeavour Hills
    VIC Australia 3802

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    #69839
    Diane Hobday
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    Hi Terry

    It may be easier to check the requirements for storing drugs – see what they can be kept with: the hospital pharmacy will have their regs on storage. I’m fairly certain that a vaccine fridge (for example) can’t be used for anything other than vaccines… it may be that scheduled drugs have similar constraints.

    Di

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    —–Original Message—–

    Thanks Julie,

    I had found all the TGA and subsequent TGO 86 material however this is more to do with harvested tissue to be used on other patients i.e. corneal grafts etc.

    This tissue is the patient’s own tissue [skin] stored for later regrafting and also material that is being stored pending use for research purposes, therefore I do not believe they are covered by this Act and TGO86.

    My query boils down to – can you or can you not store human tissue [or specimens] in the same fridge as drugs? If not – where is a suitable reference to be found.

    Regards
    Terry McAuley
    Sterilisation & Infection Control Consultant STEAM Consulting
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    Hi Terry,

    There is some information on the storage of tissue in:
    Therapeutic Goods Act 1089
    Section 10
    Standards for Human skin

    It doesn’t go into specific types of refrigeration, only temperatures and duration and that collected human skin must be sampled for bioburden, using a validated sampling technique prior to being packaged and, when packaged, must be packaged within at least one moisture impermeable barrier using an aseptic technique and stored in accordance with conditions and duration specified and justified by validation data or documented evidence from the relevant scientific literature

    Regards

    Julie

    Julie Hunt
    Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention and Control Royal North Shore Hospital, Reserve Rd, St Leonards 2065 Tel 02 99264339 or 99264490 juhunt@nsccahs.health.nsw.gov.au

    >>> Michael Wishart 11/03/2013 2:15 pm >>>
    Hi Terry

    We looked at storage of human skin recently, as we were using a fridge that was used to store lab specimens. Provided you have a temperature monitored and maintained fridge with appropriate alarms and checks, and provided the tissue is labelled with name and date of collection / expiry, and sealed into its own container, we couldn’t find any guidelines that specified what else could be storied in the fridge with it.

    We have changed our practice here, though, and now store these tissues in a blood fridge, as that has is attached to a monitored alarm system. Whereas the pathology fridge just beeps to itself in the pathology room where no one can hear it.

    If anyone has actual tissue storage guidelines that specify more clearly where these tissues can be stored I would be interested as well.

    Cheers
    Michael

    Michael Wishart
    CNC Infection Control
    Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
    627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032
    t: (07) 3326 3068 | f: (07) 3607 2226
    e: Michael.Wishart@hsn.org.au
    w:www.holyspiritnorthside.org.au
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    Hi everyone,

    I have recently come across a practice of storing human tissue i.e. skin in the same fridge as drugs.

    I was wondering if anyone could point me to the reference where it clearly states that this is not an acceptable practice? A quick internet search hasn’t been helpful.

    Thanks in anticipation.

    Regards
    Terry McAuley
    Sterilisation & Infection Control Consultant STEAM Consulting
    E: terry@steamconsulting.com.au
    W: http://www.steamconsulting.com.au
    A: PO BOX 779
    Endeavour Hills
    VIC Australia 3802

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