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11/03/2013 at 1:16 pm #69817AnonymousInactive
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Hi everyone,
I have recently come across a practice of storing human tissue i.e. skin in
the same fridge as drugs.I was wondering if anyone could point me to the reference where it clearly
states that this is not an acceptable practice? A quick internet search
hasn’t been helpful.Thanks in anticipation.
Regards
Terry McAuley
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STEAM Consulting
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11/03/2013 at 2:15 pm #69818Michael WishartParticipantAuthor:
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Hi Terry
We looked at storage of human skin recently, as we were using a fridge that was used to store lab specimens. Provided you have a temperature monitored and maintained fridge with appropriate alarms and checks, and provided the tissue is labelled with name and date of collection / expiry, and sealed into its own container, we couldn’t find any guidelines that specified what else could be storied in the fridge with it.
We have changed our practice here, though, and now store these tissues in a blood fridge, as that has is attached to a monitored alarm system. Whereas the pathology fridge just beeps to itself in the pathology room where no one can hear it.
If anyone has actual tissue storage guidelines that specify more clearly where these tissues can be stored I would be interested as well.
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart
CNC Infection Control
Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032
t: (07) 3326 3068 | f: (07) 3607 2226
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Please consider the environment before printing this emailHi everyone,
I have recently come across a practice of storing human tissue i.e. skin in the same fridge as drugs.
I was wondering if anyone could point me to the reference where it clearly states that this is not an acceptable practice? A quick internet search hasn’t been helpful.
Thanks in anticipation.
Regards
Terry McAuley
Sterilisation & Infection Control Consultant
STEAM Consulting
E: terry@steamconsulting.com.au
W: http://www.steamconsulting.com.au
A: PO BOX 779
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12/03/2013 at 10:54 am #69823Hi all
I can’t find anything specific in any of the Standards – what Terry says is covering most bases (because a blood fridge has better monitoring than a path fridge).
If you want a definitive answer I would encourage you to contact the Donor Tissue Bank of Victoria at the Victorian Institute of Forensic Medicine (VIFM). They are a state-of-the-art public tissue bank, and will be able to give you advice about best practice and applicable standards.
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National Association of Testing Authorities, Australia
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http://www.nata.com.auHi Terry
We looked at storage of human skin recently, as we were using a fridge that was used to store lab specimens. Provided you have a temperature monitored and maintained fridge with appropriate alarms and checks, and provided the tissue is labelled with name and date of collection / expiry, and sealed into its own container, we couldn’t find any guidelines that specified what else could be storied in the fridge with it.
We have changed our practice here, though, and now store these tissues in a blood fridge, as that has is attached to a monitored alarm system. Whereas the pathology fridge just beeps to itself in the pathology room where no one can hear it.
If anyone has actual tissue storage guidelines that specify more clearly where these tissues can be stored I would be interested as well.
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart
CNC Infection Control
Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032
t: (07) 3326 3068 | f: (07) 3607 2226
e: Michael.Wishart@hsn.org.au
w:www.holyspiritnorthside.org.au
Please consider the environment before printing this emailHi everyone,
I have recently come across a practice of storing human tissue i.e. skin in the same fridge as drugs.
I was wondering if anyone could point me to the reference where it clearly states that this is not an acceptable practice? A quick internet search hasn’t been helpful.
Thanks in anticipation.
Regards
Terry McAuley
Sterilisation & Infection Control Consultant
STEAM Consulting
E: terry@steamconsulting.com.au
W: http://www.steamconsulting.com.au
A: PO BOX 779
Endeavour Hills
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12/03/2013 at 12:04 pm #69835Hi Terry,
There is some information on the storage of tissue in:
Therapeutic Goods Act 1089
Section 10
Standards for Human skinIt doesn’t go into specific types of refrigeration, only temperatures and duration and that collected human skin must be sampled for bioburden, using a validated sampling technique prior to being packaged and, when packaged, must be packaged within at least one moisture impermeable barrier using an aseptic technique and stored
in accordance with conditions and duration specified and justified by validation data or documented evidence from the relevant scientific literatureRegards
Julie
Julie Hunt
Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention and Control
Royal North Shore Hospital, Reserve Rd, St Leonards 2065
Tel 02 99264339 or 99264490 juhunt@nsccahs.health.nsw.gov.au>>> Michael Wishart 11/03/2013 2:15 pm >>>
Hi TerryWe looked at storage of human skin recently, as we were using a fridge that was used to store lab specimens. Provided you have a temperature monitored and maintained fridge with appropriate alarms and checks, and provided the tissue is labelled with name and date of collection / expiry, and sealed into its own container, we couldn’t find any guidelines that specified what else could be storied in the fridge with it.
We have changed our practice here, though, and now store these tissues in a blood fridge, as that has is attached to a monitored alarm system. Whereas the pathology fridge just beeps to itself in the pathology room where no one can hear it.
If anyone has actual tissue storage guidelines that specify more clearly where these tissues can be stored I would be interested as well.
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart
CNC Infection Control
Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032
t: (07) 3326 3068 | f: (07) 3607 2226
e: Michael.Wishart@hsn.org.au
w:www.holyspiritnorthside.org.au
Please consider the environment before printing this emailHi everyone,
I have recently come across a practice of storing human tissue i.e. skin in the same fridge as drugs.
I was wondering if anyone could point me to the reference where it clearly states that this is not an acceptable practice? A quick internet search hasn’t been helpful.
Thanks in anticipation.
Regards
Terry McAuley
Sterilisation & Infection Control Consultant
STEAM Consulting
E: terry@steamconsulting.com.au
W: http://www.steamconsulting.com.au
A: PO BOX 779
Endeavour Hills
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12/03/2013 at 12:29 pm #69839Hi Terry
It may be easier to check the requirements for storing drugs – see what they can be kept with: the hospital pharmacy will have their regs on storage. I’m fairly certain that a vaccine fridge (for example) can’t be used for anything other than vaccines… it may be that scheduled drugs have similar constraints.
Di
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National Association of Testing Authorities, Australia
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http://www.nata.com.au—–Original Message—–
Thanks Julie,
I had found all the TGA and subsequent TGO 86 material however this is more to do with harvested tissue to be used on other patients i.e. corneal grafts etc.
This tissue is the patient’s own tissue [skin] stored for later regrafting and also material that is being stored pending use for research purposes, therefore I do not believe they are covered by this Act and TGO86.
My query boils down to – can you or can you not store human tissue [or specimens] in the same fridge as drugs? If not – where is a suitable reference to be found.
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—–Original Message—–Hi Terry,
There is some information on the storage of tissue in:
Therapeutic Goods Act 1089
Section 10
Standards for Human skinIt doesn’t go into specific types of refrigeration, only temperatures and duration and that collected human skin must be sampled for bioburden, using a validated sampling technique prior to being packaged and, when packaged, must be packaged within at least one moisture impermeable barrier using an aseptic technique and stored in accordance with conditions and duration specified and justified by validation data or documented evidence from the relevant scientific literature
Regards
Julie
Julie Hunt
Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Prevention and Control Royal North Shore Hospital, Reserve Rd, St Leonards 2065 Tel 02 99264339 or 99264490 juhunt@nsccahs.health.nsw.gov.au>>> Michael Wishart 11/03/2013 2:15 pm >>>
Hi TerryWe looked at storage of human skin recently, as we were using a fridge that was used to store lab specimens. Provided you have a temperature monitored and maintained fridge with appropriate alarms and checks, and provided the tissue is labelled with name and date of collection / expiry, and sealed into its own container, we couldn’t find any guidelines that specified what else could be storied in the fridge with it.
We have changed our practice here, though, and now store these tissues in a blood fridge, as that has is attached to a monitored alarm system. Whereas the pathology fridge just beeps to itself in the pathology room where no one can hear it.
If anyone has actual tissue storage guidelines that specify more clearly where these tissues can be stored I would be interested as well.
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart
CNC Infection Control
Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032
t: (07) 3326 3068 | f: (07) 3607 2226
e: Michael.Wishart@hsn.org.au
w:www.holyspiritnorthside.org.au
Please consider the environment before printing this emailHi everyone,
I have recently come across a practice of storing human tissue i.e. skin in the same fridge as drugs.
I was wondering if anyone could point me to the reference where it clearly states that this is not an acceptable practice? A quick internet search hasn’t been helpful.
Thanks in anticipation.
Regards
Terry McAuley
Sterilisation & Infection Control Consultant STEAM Consulting
E: terry@steamconsulting.com.au
W: http://www.steamconsulting.com.au
A: PO BOX 779
Endeavour Hills
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