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HI John
This is so important, not only from a PPE perspective, but also a HH
perspective! Their compliance is appalling on both fronts and then throw in
aseptic technique compliance and we wonder why we get line infections, I
think it is high tide that we made a stand.I am more than happy to put my hand up and assist!
Thanks for raising the issue
Regards
MichelleMichelle Bibby
Infection Prevention Australia
+61 429 071 165
Michelle@infectionprevention.com.au
http://www.infectionprevention.com.auFerguson
Dear All
The College of Anaesthetists avoids specifying in their infection control
guideline as to whether PPE should be worn by staff who are intubating a
patient. Most anaesthetists dont wear a mask or eye protection though some
have been sensitised by undisclosed meningococcal sepsis cases etc.
My view is that gloves mask and eye protection are indicated as per std
prec. (Not withstanding, an anaesthetic colleague recently disputed this and
said that most patients being intubated are apnoeic at the time and
therefore not producing aerosols!). What have others put in place re
standard requirements? Has anyone got a stomach to take on the college ?
Or do people regard this as too low a risk (I dont).
Best wishes
JohnDr John Ferguson MBBS DTM&H FRACP FRCPA
Microbiologist | Pathology North, NSW Pathology
Infectious Diseases Physician | Immunology and Infectious Diseases Unit
Conjoint Assoc. Professor | University of Newcastle
John Hunter Hospital, Locked Bag 1, Newcastle Mail Centre, NSW 2310,
Australia
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Hi John,
Happy to have a discussion off line if you wish.
Kind Regards
Louisa SaskoClinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Control & Physical Health Care
Mental Health Drug & Alcohol NSLHD
Macquarie Hospital
Tel (02) 9887 5479 | Fax (02) 9887 5678 | Mob 0422 005 640Masters Candidate | Western Sydney University | School of Nursing
Conjoint Associate Lecturer | Western Sydney University | School of Medicine
Louisa.sasko@health.nsw.gov.au
________________________________Dear All
The College of Anaesthetists avoids specifying in their infection control guideline as to whether PPE should be worn by staff who are intubating a patient. Most anaesthetists dont wear a mask or eye protection though some have been sensitised by undisclosed meningococcal sepsis cases etc.
My view is that gloves mask and eye protection are indicated as per std prec. (Not withstanding, an anaesthetic colleague recently disputed this and said that most patients being intubated are apnoeic at the time and therefore not producing aerosols!). What have others put in place re standard requirements? Has anyone got a stomach to take on the college ? Or do people regard this as too low a risk (I dont).
Best wishes
John
Dr John Ferguson MBBS DTM&H FRACP FRCPA
Microbiologist | Pathology North, NSW Pathology
Infectious Diseases Physician | Immunology and Infectious Diseases Unit
Conjoint Assoc. Professor | University of Newcastle
John Hunter Hospital, Locked Bag 1, Newcastle Mail Centre, NSW 2310, Australia
T: 61 2 49214444 | F: 61 2 49214440 | M: +61(0)428 885573 (Speed Dial 67607) | Tw @mdjkfFollow http://www.idmicnepal.net for microbiology and infectious diseases post graduate resources and discussions.
Follow http://www.biochemcase.wordpress.com for moderated case discussions from a renowned clinical biochemistry expert.
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Dear John,
I see this issue has having wider health system implications than just
the protection of Anaesthetists. Like it or not, other healthcare
workers will emulate what the Anaesthetists do (eg our Paramedics, who
do a lot of airway management).Yes it is a risk, and is worth addressing.
regards,
Kate Hipsley
NSW Ambulance
0428 238 789On 19/01/2017 2:59 PM, John Ferguson wrote:
>
> Dear All
>
> The College of Anaesthetists avoids specifying in their infection
> control guideline as to whether PPE should be worn by staff who are
> intubating a patient. Most anaesthetists don’t wear a mask or eye
> protection though some have been sensitised by undisclosed
> meningococcal sepsis cases etc.
>
> My view is that gloves mask and eye protection are indicated as per
> std prec. (Not withstanding, an anaesthetic colleague recently
> disputed this and said that most patients being intubated are apnoeic
> at the time and therefore not producing aerosols!). What have others
> put in place re standard requirements? Has anyone got a stomach to
> take on the college ? Or do people regard this as too low a risk (I
> don’t).
>
> Best wishes
>
> John
>
> *Dr John Ferguson **MBBS DTM&H FRACP FRCPA*
>
> Microbiologist|*Pathology North, NSW Pathology*
>
> Infectious Diseases Physician| *Immunology and Infectious Diseases Unit*
>
> Conjoint Assoc. Professor | *University of Newcastle *
> John Hunter Hospital, Locked Bag 1, Newcastle Mail Centre, NSW 2310,
> Australia
> T: 61 2 49214444 | F: 61 2 49214440 | M: +61(0)428 885573 (Speed Dial
> 67607) | Tw @mdjkf
>
> Follow http://www.idmicnepal.net for
> microbiology and infectious diseases post graduate resources and
> discussions.
>
> Follow http://www.biochemcase.wordpress.com
> formoderated case discussions
> from a renowned clinical biochemistry expert.
>
> Follow http://www.aimed.net.au , the HNE
> Health/Pathology North site for practical discussions about antibiotic
> use.
>
> http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/images/communications/e-signatures/images/NSW-Health-Master.jpg
>
>
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> those of the author only and do not represent the official view of
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> Government.
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Dear John,
I see this issue has having wider health system implications than
just the protection of Anaesthetists. Like it or not, other
healthcare workers will emulate what the Anaesthetists do (eg our
Paramedics, who do a lot of airway management).Yes it is a risk, and is worth addressing.
regards,
Kate Hipsley
NSW Ambulance
0428 238 789On 19/01/2017 2:59 PM, John Ferguson wrote:
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The College
of Anaesthetists avoids specifying in their infection
control guideline as to whether PPE should be worn by staff
who are intubating a patient. Most anaesthetists don’t wear
a mask or eye protection though some have been sensitised by
undisclosed meningococcal sepsis cases etc.My view is
that gloves mask and eye protection are indicated as per std
prec. (Not withstanding, an anaesthetic colleague recently
disputed this and said that most patients being intubated
are apnoeic at the time and therefore not producing
aerosols!). What have others put in place re standard
requirements? Has anyone got a stomach to take on the
college ? Or do people regard this as too low a risk (I
don’t).Best wishes
John
Dr John Ferguson MBBS DTM&H FRACP FRCPA
Microbiologist | Pathology North, NSW Pathology
Infectious
Diseases Physician | Immunology and Infectious
Diseases UnitConjoint Assoc.
Professor | University of Newcastle
John Hunter Hospital, Locked Bag 1, Newcastle
Mail Centre, NSW 2310, Australia
T: 61 2 49214444 | F: 61 2 49214440 | M: +61(0)428 885573 (Speed Dial
67607) | Tw @mdjkfFollow http://www.idmicnepal.net for microbiology
and infectious diseases post graduate resources and
discussions.Follow www.biochemcase.wordpress.com for moderated case discussions from
a renowned clinical biochemistry expert.Follow http://www.aimed.net.au, the HNE
Health/Pathology North site for practical discussions
about antibiotic use.
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