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Dear All,
At Western Health in Victoria we are building a new Women’s and Children’s hospital. The Australian Health Facility Guidelines recommend for nurseries (we plan for level 2 and 3 NICU) ‘monolithic from wall to wall without fissures, open joints or crevices that may retain or permit the passage of dirt particles.’There seems to be is a move away these guidelines and the use of solid plasterboard in ICUs and NICUs mainly for the sake of acoustics and the architects want to use a flush plasterboard perimeter with antimicrobial performance mineral fibre tiles in the NICU ceiling.
I am a bit sceptical on the antimicrobial claims and don’t like to defer from the current guidelines which are clear about the use of tiles. Does anyone have any information or opinion to share?
Regards,
RichardRichard Bartolo
Manager Infection Prevention
Western Health
Gordon Street, Footscray VIC 3011
Ph. 03 8345 6113
Mob. 0438 560 441
Email. richard.bartolo@wh.org.au
Web. http://www.westernhealth.org.au[2010wh_logo]
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No point having a National standard that we have all waited for for so long,
and not use it. If we let architects dictate the terms we are not in a good
place.We are providing health care not a sound booth
Thanks
MichelleMichelle Bibby
Infection Prevention Australia
Michelle@infectionprevention.com.au
+429071165Dear All,
At Western Health in Victoria we are building a new Womens and Childrens
hospital. The Australian Health Facility Guidelines recommend for nurseries
(we plan for level 2 and 3 NICU) monolithic from wall to wall without
fissures, open joints or crevices that may retain or permit the passage of
dirt particles.
There seems to be is a move away these guidelines and the use of solid
plasterboard in ICUs and NICUs mainly for the sake of acoustics and the
architects want to use a flush plasterboard perimeter with antimicrobial
performance mineral fibre tiles in the NICU ceiling.
I am a bit sceptical on the antimicrobial claims and dont like to defer
from the current guidelines which are clear about the use of tiles. Does
anyone have any information or opinion to share?
Regards,
Richard
Richard Bartolo
Manager Infection Prevention
Western Health
Gordon Street, Footscray VIC 3011
Ph. 03 8345 6113
Mob. 0438 560 441
Email. richard.bartolo@wh.org.au
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Hi all,
I do agree, but we also have to be open to new products on the market that may actually far exceed and meet the needs of the build.
I would be asking for the technical data, independent evidence regarding the antimicrobial performance.
Take into account that if the product can tolerate the harshest chemicals like bleach and you can use a vaporised product to disinfect, why would you need the antimicrobial plaster.
Possibility- for additional insurance/reassurance if the cleaning wasn’t being done as you would have expected or that it has an ongoing residual effect on the bioburden in the room.
These types of products also have a prolonged kill time of up to 72 hours, so it’s not instant.
The guidelines are a great resource for ICPs ( I know I use them all the time) but we also need to be mindful that things change and they are a guide.
Just my thoughts….Kind Regards
Marija Juraja |Clinical Service Coordinator -CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
t: +61 8 8222 4527(RAH) 8222 7588 (TQEH)| m: 0466 379 821|e:marija.juraja@sa.gov.au |web: IPCU Intranet Site and Resources
Adjunct Clinical Lecturer | University of South Australia | Division of Health Sciences
[cid:image002.png@01D230F7.D4B2D1F0] [cid:image001.jpg@01CF74C9.73C91440]No point having a National standard that we have all waited for for so long, and not use it. If we let architects dictate the terms we are not in a good place.
We are providing health care not a sound booth…
Thanks
MichelleMichelle Bibby
Infection Prevention Australia
Michelle@infectionprevention.com.au
+429071165
[cid:7815855E-5747-41E2-8873-78E10553939F]Dear All,
At Western Health in Victoria we are building a new Women’s and Children’s hospital. The Australian Health Facility Guidelines recommend for nurseries (we plan for level 2 and 3 NICU) ‘monolithic from wall to wall without fissures, open joints or crevices that may retain or permit the passage of dirt particles.’There seems to be is a move away these guidelines and the use of solid plasterboard in ICUs and NICUs mainly for the sake of acoustics and the architects want to use a flush plasterboard perimeter with antimicrobial performance mineral fibre tiles in the NICU ceiling.
I am a bit sceptical on the antimicrobial claims and don’t like to defer from the current guidelines which are clear about the use of tiles. Does anyone have any information or opinion to share?
Regards,
RichardRichard Bartolo
Manager Infection Prevention
Western Health
Gordon Street, Footscray VIC 3011
Ph. 03 8345 6113
Mob. 0438 560 441
Email. richard.bartolo@wh.org.au
Web. http://www.westernhealth.org.au[2010wh_logo]
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