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    Jennifer McCarthy
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    Hi all – not sure if this has already been discussed and apologies if it
    has – one of the orthopaedic surgeons here is requesting Chlorhexidine
    2% with 70% alcohol (tinted red) as opposed to the 0.5% with 70% alcohol
    for skin prep. Firstly, is there an advantage to using the 2% as opposed
    to the 0.5% and if so would anyone have any literature to support this
    Thanks
    Jenny McCarthy
    Maryvale Private Hospital
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    Glenys Harrington
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    Hi Michael,

    This may be the case in terms of what is available in Australia. Hence
    hospital using either of these products for surgical skin preparation would
    be wise to undertake an “offline risk assessment” until the
    manufacturer/supplier has the correct TGA registration as this may take some
    time as a significant amount of data is required for such registration.

    In addition hospital would also be wise to stick with a preparation that is
    recommended in the current literature (all be there is some debate about the
    methodology of these studies) and a product that is has been recommended by
    others rather than a preparation that at this point in time is recommended
    for skin antisepsis prior to insertion of intravascular devices.

    I see the NHS recommended 2% Chlorhexidine and Alcohol for surgical skin
    preparation in there “High Impact Intervention Care Bundle to Prevent
    Surgical Site Infection” link below

    Ensure that 2% chlorhexidine gluconate in 70% isopropyl alcohol solution is
    used for skin preparation (if patient sensitive, use povidone-iodine)

    http://www.documents.hps.scot.nhs.uk/hai/infection-control/evidence-for-care
    -bundles/key-recommendations/ssi/ssi-rec-6.pdf

    Regards

    Glenys

    Glenys Harrington

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    Of Michael Wishart

    Hi Glenys

    Agreed. The main problem is that the only formulations of chlorhexidine and
    alcohol that are tinted red (both 0.5% and 2% chlorhexidine content)
    available in Australia are all from the same manufacturer and all only
    licensed by TGA for hard surface disinfection. The red tint is a specific
    requirements for some surgeons to enable them to easily visualise where the
    skin has been prepped.

    Cheers

    Michael

    Michael Wishart

    Infection Control Coordinator

    Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital

    627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032

    t: (07) 3326 3068 | f: (07) 3607 2226

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    Of Glenys Harrington

    Hi Michael,

    Until companies have their products correctly registered with the TGA
    (inclusive of the purpose of use and labelling) users (i.e.
    hospitals/surgeons) assume liability for any injuries resulting from any
    “off-label use”.

    As it is difficult to find any recommendations or publications supporting
    the use of >0.5% chlorhexidine and Alcohol for surgical skin preparation at
    this point in time hospitals would be wise to undertake an “offline risk
    assessment” and have it endorsed by their Infection Control committee before
    proceeding.

    Regards

    Glenys

    Glenys Harrington

    Consultant

    Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)

    PO Box 5202

    Middle Park

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    Australia

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    Of Michael Wishart

    Hi Matthias

    I believe the labelling of the solution in question is more about TGA
    licensing than the actual formulation of the solution. That has been
    discussed here previously on this list. The manufacturer of that product has
    never explicitly stated you cannot use this solution for skin antisepsis,
    only that it is not current licensed for this use. A vexing issue indeed.

    Cheers

    Michael

    Michael Wishart

    Infection Control Coordinator

    Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital

    627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032

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    Of Matthias Maiwald (KKH)

    Hi Glenys,

    Thank you very much for these additional points.

    I would like to add a few points for clarification.

    It is indeed the case that the CDC Guidelines for the Prevention of
    Intravascular Catheter-Related Infections 2011 state to “Prepare clean skin
    with a >0.5% chlorhexidine preparation with alcohol” and that this cannot be
    automatically inferred to surgical skin preparation. Apart from the IHI
    document that you cited (apparently specifying 2%; I have not yet seen the
    document), there does not seem to be a widely specified CHG percentage
    (supported by data) to be added to the alcohol that is available in
    guidelines.

    The Carroll et al. 2014 study (from Melbourne) shows (in a non-RCT) for
    surgical skin preparation that the combination of 1% iodine and 70% alcohol
    (i.e. two antiseptics) performs better than a combination of 0.5% CHG and
    70% alcohol (i.e. two antiseptics). Note that the type of iodine and the
    alcohol types have not been specified in that study. These results seem
    congruent with those of Swenson et al. ICHE 2009; 30: 964-71 (iodine+ALC
    versus CHG+ALC).

    The Darouiche et al. NEJM 2010 study clearly shows (in an RCT) for surgical
    skin preparation that a combination of 2% CHG with 70% isopropanol (i.e. two
    antiseptics) performs better than 10% povidone-iodine alone (i.e. only one
    antiseptic). For anyone who has followed the microbiological literature on
    antiseptics (which spans many decades), the outcome of this trial was hardly
    surprising, because this is a massively unequal comparison: two antiseptics
    against one, and the isopropanol in the 2%CHG/70%IPA trial arm outperforms
    either CHG alone or PVI alone by a factor of 10 (!). Apart from that, it
    indeed looks like the scientific part of the Darouiche trial is solid (as
    you state).

    The Carroll et al. 2014 study and the Darouiche et al. 2010 study — even in
    synospsis — genuinely CANNOT be taken to infer that 0.5% CHG with alcohol
    is any inferior to 2% CHG with alcohol (or vice versa).

    I have not suggested to use alcohol alone for surgical skin preparation; the
    combinations of either CHG+ALC or PVI+ALC have clear benefits of being
    combination antiseptics with enhanced activity. What I was suggesting is
    that people should get less hung up about the role of CHG in the CHG+ALC
    combination. The microbiological properties of skin antiseptics have been
    studied for over 100 years (e.g. Harrington and Walker. Boston Medical and
    Surgical Journal. 1903; 148: 548-52), and a wealth of information
    particularly came from studies done in the 1970s and 1980s. From this branch
    of the literature, the microbiological properties of the various skin
    antiseptics are well defined. Alcohols are known to be far superior in their
    immediate antimicrobial activity than either CHG or PVI. While evidence from
    clinical trials is clearly the best evidence, this evidence CANNOT be
    assessed in isolation, and it is necessary — while assessing evidence — to
    have a holistic picture with taking the necessary scientific background (in
    this case: microbiological background) and the principles of biological
    plausibility into account. That this was not commonly done in evidence
    assessments for skin antisepsis — and people focussed blindly on clinical
    trial outcomes — is presumably the reason for the massive, large-scale
    medical literature error that we described in our PLoS One (2012) article
    and subsequently commented upon further in our recent J Antimicrob Chemother
    (2014) article.

    The advice “Do not use to disinfect surfaces likely to come in contact with
    broken skin” for the CHLORHEXIDINE 0.5% IN ALCOHOL 70% TINTED RED that you
    mention presumably simply means that alcohol-containing antiseptics are
    unsuitable to be used on wounds (also mucous membranes).

    The range of CHG concentrations that I have seen in CHG+ALC combinations for
    surgical skin preparation is 0.5% to 3.15% (the latter an odd number by one
    particular manufacturer. The 4% CHG concentration would be typical of
    aqueous CHG antiseptics (as John Ferguson states).

    Best regards, Matthias.

    Matthias Maiwald, MD, FRCPA

    Consultant in Microbiology

    Adj. Assoc. Prof., Natl. Univ. Singapore

    Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine

    KK Women’s and Children’s Hospital

    100 Bukit Timah Road

    Singapore 229899

    Tel. +65 6394 8725 (Office)

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    Of Glenys Harrington

    Hi Matthias,

    To access IHI information – you just need to register and then you can get
    access to information such as the How to Guides – it’s free.

    We should clarify for those following this thread that the CDC reference
    to “Prepare clean skin with a >0.5% chlorhexidine preparation with
    alcohol……” is referring to skin preparation for intravascular devices
    not surgical (preoperative) skin preparation – extract from guidelines
    below.

    Guidelines for the Prevention of Intravascular Catheter-Related Infections,
    2011

    . “Prepare clean skin with a >0.5% chlorhexidine preparation with
    alcohol before central venous catheter and peripheral arterial catheter
    insertion and during dressing changes. If there is a contraindication to
    chlorhexidine, tincture of iodine, an iodophor, or 70% alcohol can be used
    as alternatives [82, 83]. Category IA”

    While there may be supportive evidence for >0.5% chlorhexidine and alcohol
    preparations for the prevention of catheter-related bloodstream infections
    we shouldn’t assume that this will necessarily be the case for reducing
    surgical site infections(SSIs). Hence until we see the studies that clearly
    demonstrate that alcohol alone is better that CHG and alcohol, Iodine and
    alcohol, CHG alone or Iodine alone for surgical (preoperative) skin
    preparation to prevent surgical site infections we should be cautious about
    what we suggest people focus on.

    This recent publication from St Vincent’s Hospital, Melbourne may be of
    interest to those considering a 0.5% CHG and alcohol preparation for
    surgical (preoperative) skin preparation

    The study showed that patients who received skin prep with 0.5%
    chlorhexidine and alcohol prior to orthopaedic surgical procedures were at
    higher risk of superficial infection than those who received 1% iodine
    and alcohol, p=0.012.

    Carroll K. et al. Risk factors for superficial wound complications in hip
    and knee arthroplasty. Clinical Microbiology and Infection,

    Volume 20, Issue 2, pages 130-135, February 2014

    . “The study was performed over an 18-month period (January 2011 to
    June 2012) and included 964 patients undergoing prosthetic hip or knee
    replacement surgery

    . In the multivariable logistic regression analysis patients who
    received skin prep with 0.5% chlorhexidine and alcohol were at higher
    risk of superficial infection than those who received 1% iodine and
    alcohol, p=0.012.

    . The authors acknowledge findings may reflect surgeon preference
    and experience and that skin prep requires more evaluation/RCT”.

    .

    Thanks for forwarding the ProPublica scandal publication, very interesting
    reading.

    I see the US company concerned settled with the US Dept of Justice avoiding
    criminal charges for allegations of fraud against the government and the
    product is now approved by the FDA as outlined in a US Department of Justice
    Press Release titled “CareFusion to Pay the Government $40.1 Million to
    Resolve Allegations That Include More Than $11 Million in Kickbacks to One
    Doctor” on Thursday, January 9, 2014:

    . ” The settlement resolves allegations that, under agreements
    entered into in 2008 by CareFusion’s predecessor, CareFusion paid $11.6
    million in kickbacks to Dr. Charles Denham while Denham served as the
    co-chair of the Safe Practices Committee at the National Quality Forum, a
    non-profit organization that reviews, endorses and recommends standardized
    health care performance measures and practices. The government contends
    that the purpose of those payments was to induce Denham to recommend,
    promote and arrange for the purchase of ChloraPrep by health care providers.
    ChloraPrep has been approved by the Food and Drug Administration for the
    preparation of a patient’s skin prior to surgery or injection”.

    . “This settlement also resolves allegations that, during the period
    between September 2009 and August 2011, CareFusion knowingly promoted the
    sale of ChloraPrep for uses that were not approved by the Food and Drug
    Administration, some of which were not medically accepted indications, and
    made unsubstantiated representations about the appropriate uses of
    ChloraPrep. ChloraPrep has been approved by the Food and Drug Administration
    for the preparation of a patient’s skin prior to surgery or injection”.

    http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2014/January/14-civ-021.html

    http://www.ag.ny.gov/pdfs/Settlement_Agreement.pdf

    In addition the product concerned has also been registered with the TGA in
    Australia and is on the ARTG list for use as “Sterile tinted antiseptic
    applied to patient’s skin prior to invasive medical procedures”.

    https://www.ebs.tga.gov.au/servlet/xmlmillr6?dbid=ebs/PublicHTML/pdfStore.ns
    f

    &docidC1698728A822FDCA257CA5003CC3EC&agid=(PrintDetailsPublic)&actionid=1

    While the FDA discredited the NEJM publication in court proceedings as
    outlined at the ProPublica link I don’t see where the publication it has
    been discredited by the NEJM nor the U.S. National Institutes of Health,
    Clinical Trials Unit who approved the trail?

    Given that the allegations of impropriety and kickbacks where towards Dr.
    Charles Denham, who was not an author of the NEJM publication and the trail
    was a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial and conflicts of
    interest were disclosed the results and conclusion below may still be
    valid.

    Chlorhexidine-Alcohol versus Povidone-Iodine for Surgical-Site Antisepsis N
    Engl J Med 2010;362:18-26.

    Results

    “A total of 849 subjects (409 in the chlorhexidine-alcohol group and 440 in
    the povidone-iodine group) qualified for the intention-to-treat analysis.
    The overall rate of surgical-site infection was significantly lower in the
    chlorhexidine-alcohol group than in the povidone-iodine group (9.5% vs.
    16.1%; P = 0.004; relative risk, 0.59; 95% confidence interval, 0.41 to
    0.85). Chlorhexidine-alcohol was significantly more protective than
    povidone-iodine against both superficial incisional infections (4.2% vs.
    8.6%, P = 0.008) and deep incisional infections (1% vs. 3%, P = 0.05) but
    not against organ-space infections (4.4% vs. 4.5%). Similar results were
    observed in the per-protocol analysis of the 813 patients who remained in
    the study during the 30-day follow-up period. Adverse events were similar in
    the two study groups”.

    Conclusion

    “Preoperative cleansing of the patient’s skin with chlorhexidine-alcohol is
    superior to cleansing with povidone-iodine for preventing surgical-site
    infection after clean contaminated surgery. (ClinicalTrials.gov number,
    NCT00290290.)

    In addition I think you will find in the US that there are only 2
    concentrations of CHG and alcohol available for surgical (preoperative) skin
    preparation – 2% or 4 % – happy to be corrected.

    In Australia the supplier/manufacturer of the CHLORHEXIDINE 0.5% IN
    ALCOHOL 70% TINTED RED that I think jenny is referring to states the
    following on their users product guide:

    . Do not use to disinfect therapeutic devices.

    . Do not use to disinfect surfaces likely to come in contact with
    broken skin.

    Regards

    Glenys

    Glenys Harrington

    Consultant

    Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)

    PO Box 5202

    Middle Park

    Victoria, 3206

    Australia

    H: +61 3 96902216

    M: +61 404 816 434

    infexion@ozemail.com.au

    ABN 47533508426

    Of Matthias Maiwald (KKH)

    Hi Glenys,

    Interesting. I had not yet seen the IHI Project JOINTS website. Some of the
    contents seem to be behind a login-wall, though.

    The “2%” CHX specified percentage brings up an interesting issue; there was
    a recent US healthcare scandal in which it is alleged that an ex committee
    member of the US National Quality Forum (NQF) inappropriately influenced the
    NQF towards a 2% CHG-containing solution, at a time when only one
    manufacturer provided that particular percentage (meaning a 2% endorsement
    would direct consumers towards that manufacturer’s product) and at a time
    when there was no clear evidence to prefer a particular CHX percentage over
    another (as John Ferguson states).

    http://www.propublica.org/article/hidden-financial-ties-rattle-top-health-qu
    ality-group

    People should not get so focused on the CHX component; as I have often
    emphasised, it is known from many decades of microbiological testing both in
    vitro and on human skin that alcohols, when well formulated, are about 10
    times more microbiologically effective than CHX.

    Interesting, the second reference (2014 Update) lists routine preoperative
    CHX showering/bathing/wiping as an unresolved issue. While this practice is
    supported by a good microbiological rationale (and those who know me know
    that I like microbiological rationales), it is not yet quite established
    whether this translates into better clinical outcomes. Note, this is
    different from specific preoperative decolonisation of MSSA/MRSA cariers,
    which seems indeed to translate into better outcomes. Also, for classical
    skin antisepsis (‘skin prep’) as discussed above, it is also well
    established that this translates into outcomes.

    Best regards, Matthias.

    Matthias Maiwald, MD, FRCPA

    Consultant in Microbiology

    Adj. Assoc. Prof., Natl. Univ. Singapore

    Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine

    KK Women’s and Children’s Hospital

    100 Bukit Timah Road

    Singapore 229899

    Tel. +65 6394 8725 (Office)

    Tel. +65 6394 1389 (Laboratory)

    Fax +65 6394 1387

    Of Glenys Harrington

    Hi Jenny,

    Sorry to join the discussion in relation to surgical preoperative skin
    preparation late.

    Your surgeons request may relate to the Institute of Healthcare Improvement
    (IHI) Project JOINTS.

    http://www.ihi.org/engage/initiatives/completed/projectjoints/Pages/default.
    aspx

    In addition to the interventions recommended by the Surgical Care
    Improvement Project (SCIP) (i.e. appropriate use of prophylactic
    antibiotics, appropriate hair removal…and so on) Project JOINTS recommends
    the following interventions for elective hip and knee arthroplasty
    procedures:

    1. Use of an alcohol-containing antiseptic agent for preoperative skin
    preparation.

    Hospitals participating in the IHI Project JOINTS are using one of the
    following surgical preoperative skin preparations (personal communication):

    o 2% CHG plus alcohol

    *10% Iodophor plus alcohol

    You can find additional information in the IHI Project JOINTS, “How to
    Guide” including the following.

    . IHI Project JOINTS How-to Guide: Prevent Surgical Site Infection
    for Hip and Knee Arthroplasty: “The combination of a long-acting agent
    (either an iodophor or CHG) is better than povidone iodine alone for
    preventing SSI. There is insufficient evidence to support recommending the
    use of one combination agent over another”.

    2. Preoperative bathing or showering with chlorhexidine gluconate (CHG)
    soap for at least three days before surgery – most are using CHG wipes
    (personal communication).

    3. Staphylococcus aureus screening and use of intranasal mupirocin and CHG
    bathing or showering to decolonize Staphylococcus aureus carriers.

    In addition the recent publication from the Society for Healthcare
    Epidemiology of America (SHEA) and the Infectious Diseases Society of
    America (IDSA) Practice Recommendations “Strategies to Prevent Surgical Site
    Infections in Acute Care Hospitals: 2014 Update – Intervention number one
    is a Grade 1 (high) level of evidence recommendation and may be worth a
    read.

    “Use alcohol-containing preoperative skin preparatory agents if no
    contraindication exists (quality of evidence: I).

    a. Alcohol is highly bactericidal and effective for preoperative skin
    antisepsis but does not have persistent activity when used alone. Rapid,
    persistent, and cumulative antisepsis can be achieved by combining alcohol
    with chlorhexidine gluconate or an iodophor.115

    i. Alcohol is contraindicated for certain procedures, including procedures
    in which the preparatory agent may pool or not dry (e.g., involving hair)
    due to fire risk. Alcohol may also be contraindicated for procedures
    involving mucosa, cornea, or ear.

    b. The most effective disinfectant to combine with alcohol is unclear…”.

    The publication is freely available online at the following link:
    http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/676022

    Your surgeon may want a tinted product so he/she can see where it has been
    applied, although any staining (tinted CHG or Idophor) may obscure signs of
    inflammation post-operatively.

    regards

    Glenys

    Glenys Harrington

    Consultant

    Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)

    PO Box 5202

    Middle Park

    Victoria, 3206

    Australia

    H: +61 3 96902216

    M: +61 404 816 434

    infexion@ozemail.com.au

    ABN 47533508426

    Of Jenny McCarthy

    thankyou to everyone who responded to my question – its given me a great
    basis for discusssion with the ortho surgeon !!

    _____

    Of Matthias Maiwald (KKH)

    Hi John,

    I was actually considering remaining in the background for this particular
    discussion. You make very good points. The (potentially) increased incidence
    of skin reactions is interesting information that may be worth publishing if
    you can.

    One may want to bear in mind that different applications of skin antisepsis
    (e.g. blood culture collection, surgical skin prep, vascular catheter
    insertion) have different functional and physiological characteristics and
    requirements, and for surgical skin preparation (Jenny’s question), the
    question of chlorhexidine/alcohol versus povidone-iodine/alcohol is
    unresolved. Chlorhexidine/alcohol is an excellent choice, but iodine/alcohol
    should not be discounted for this purpose.

    Best regards, Matthias.

    Matthias Maiwald, MD, FRCPA

    Consultant in Microbiology

    Adj. Assoc. Prof., Natl. Univ. Singapore

    Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine

    KK Women’s and Children’s Hospital

    100 Bukit Timah Road

    Singapore 229899

    Tel. +65 6394 8725 (Office)

    Tel. +65 6394 1389 (Laboratory)

    Fax +65 6394 1387

    Of John Ferguson

    Dear Jenny

    The critical point is that when chlorhex is mixed with alcohol , there is no
    apparent benefit from exceeding 0.5%.

    The old literature on 2% C and lines related to an aqueous preparation.

    Furthermore, we found an increase in skin reactions to the more concentrated
    products (went to a poster).

    Matthias M will comment no doubt – he has recently published this piece that
    is of relevance – Maiwald M, Chan ESY. Pitfalls in evidence assessment: the
    case of chlorhexidine and alcohol in skin antisepsis (Leading Article). J.
    Antimicrob. Chemother. (2014) Advance Access.

    http://jac.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2014/04/28/jac.dku121.abstract

    Kind regards

    John

    Dr John Ferguson

    Infectious Diseases & Microbiology

    +61 428 885573

    Of Tim Spencer

    Hi Jenny,
    There is lots of supportive evidence for 2%CHG in 70%IPA, particularly for
    invasive device skin preparation (CVC/PICC/PIVC,ICC/Epidural, etc,etc..)
    Here is a link to Dr William Jarvis discussing the differences of various
    skin preps.
    http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/761489
    There is both a video of the discussion..
    To cut to the conclusion;
    The findings were very interesting. Of greatest importance, the
    investigators found that all products (0.5% chlorhexidine with ethanol, 1%
    chlorhexidine with ethanol, and 2% chlorhexidine with isopropyl alcohol)
    were equally effective. This will be very helpful information when you are
    trying to select a product for preparation of the insertion site for
    intravascular catheters or for a preoperative surgical antiseptic.
    Chlorhexidine is effective, and different concentrations of chlorhexidine
    are equally effective, with no statistically significant difference in
    colony counts. All of these products should be equally beneficial to
    patients in preventing central line-associated bloodstream infections or
    surgical site infections.

    Timothy R. Spencer, RN, APN, DipAppSci, Bach.Health, ICCert.
    Clinical Nurse Consultant, Central Venous Access & Parenteral Nutrition
    Service
    Conjoint Lecturer, South West Sydney Clinical School | Faculty of Medicine |
    University of NSW
    President, Australian Vascular Access Society
    Dept of Intensive Care, Level 2, Clinical Building, Liverpool Hospital,
    Elizabeth Street, Liverpool, 2170, NSW, Australia
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    McCarthy [jenny@MARYVALEPH.COM.AU]

    Hi all – not sure if this has already been discussed and apologies if it has
    – one of the orthopaedic surgeons here is requesting Chlorhexidine 2% with
    70% alcohol (tinted red) as opposed to the 0.5% with 70% alcohol for skin
    prep. Firstly, is there an advantage to using the 2% as opposed to the 0.5%
    and if so would anyone have any literature to support this

    Thanks
    Jenny McCarthy
    Maryvale Private Hospital

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    Hi Glenys,

    There is certainly a point to be made to use something that is commonly used and/or mentioned in guidelines. Just bear in mind that guidelines do not operate in a “vacuum”, and in the Scottish recommendation that you cite, based on the literature that they analysed and cited within the document, the support for >>EXACTLY<< 2% chlorhexidine and 70% isopropanol is underwhelming, to say it mildly.

    Based on the published antimicrobially active concentration ranges of antiseptics and what is usually used in products for this purpose, the 2% chlorhexidine 70% isopropanol combination is clearly an excellent choice — with this I agree wholeheartedly — but there are also other possible and reasonable concentration choices. Also, again, bear in mind that the question of chlorhexidine + alcohol versus povidone-iodine + alcohol for surgical skin antisepsis (which is what we are talking about) is unresolved.

    As mentioned in my earlier comment, the focus on exactly 2% chlorhexidine was also part of a recent US healthcare scandal.

    Best regards, Matthias.


    Matthias Maiwald, MD, FRCPA
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    Hi Michael,

    This may be the case in terms of what is available in Australia. Hence hospital using either of these products for surgical skin preparation would be wise to undertake an "offline risk assessment" until the manufacturer/supplier has the correct TGA registration as this may take some time as a significant amount of data is required for such registration.

    In addition hospital would also be wise to stick with a preparation that is recommended in the current literature (all be there is some debate about the methodology of these studies) and a product that is has been recommended by others rather than a preparation that at this point in time is recommended for skin antisepsis prior to insertion of intravascular devices.

    I see the NHS recommended 2% Chlorhexidine and Alcohol for surgical skin preparation in there "High Impact Intervention Care Bundle to Prevent Surgical Site Infection" link below

    Ensure that 2% chlorhexidine gluconate in 70% isopropyl alcohol solution is used for skin preparation (if patient sensitive, use povidone-iodine)
    http://www.documents.hps.scot.nhs.uk/hai/infection-control/evidence-for-care-bundles/key-recommendations/ssi/ssi-rec-6.pdf

    Regards

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    Hi Glenys

    Agreed. The main problem is that the only formulations of chlorhexidine and alcohol that are tinted red (both 0.5% and 2% chlorhexidine content) available in Australia are all from the same manufacturer and all only licensed by TGA for hard surface disinfection. The red tint is a specific requirements for some surgeons to enable them to easily visualise where the skin has been prepped.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Hi Michael,

    Until companies have their products correctly registered with the TGA (inclusive of the purpose of use and labelling) users (i.e. hospitals/surgeons) assume liability for any injuries resulting from any “off-label use”.

    As it is difficult to find any recommendations or publications supporting the use of >0.5% chlorhexidine and Alcohol for surgical skin preparation at this point in time hospitals would be wise to undertake an “offline risk assessment” and have it endorsed by their Infection Control committee before proceeding.

    Regards

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    Hi Matthias

    I believe the labelling of the solution in question is more about TGA licensing than the actual formulation of the solution. That has been discussed here previously on this list. The manufacturer of that product has never explicitly stated you cannot use this solution for skin antisepsis, only that it is not current licensed for this use. A vexing issue indeed.

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    Michael

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    Hi Glenys,

    Thank you very much for these additional points.

    I would like to add a few points for clarification.

    It is indeed the case that the CDC Guidelines for the Prevention of Intravascular Catheter-Related Infections 2011 state to “Prepare clean skin with a >0.5% chlorhexidine preparation with alcohol” and that this cannot be automatically inferred to surgical skin preparation. Apart from the IHI document that you cited (apparently specifying 2%; I have not yet seen the document), there does not seem to be a widely specified CHG percentage (supported by data) to be added to the alcohol that is available in guidelines.

    The Carroll et al. 2014 study (from Melbourne) shows (in a non-RCT) for surgical skin preparation that the combination of 1% iodine and 70% alcohol (i.e. two antiseptics) performs better than a combination of 0.5% CHG and 70% alcohol (i.e. two antiseptics). Note that the type of iodine and the alcohol types have not been specified in that study. These results seem congruent with those of Swenson et al. ICHE 2009; 30: 964-71 (iodine+ALC versus CHG+ALC).

    The Darouiche et al. NEJM 2010 study clearly shows (in an RCT) for surgical skin preparation that a combination of 2% CHG with 70% isopropanol (i.e. two antiseptics) performs better than 10% povidone-iodine alone (i.e. only one antiseptic). For anyone who has followed the microbiological literature on antiseptics (which spans many decades), the outcome of this trial was hardly surprising, because this is a massively unequal comparison: two antiseptics against one, and the isopropanol in the 2%CHG/70%IPA trial arm outperforms either CHG alone or PVI alone by a factor of 10 (!). Apart from that, it indeed looks like the scientific part of the Darouiche trial is solid (as you state).

    The Carroll et al. 2014 study and the Darouiche et al. 2010 study — even in synospsis — genuinely CANNOT be taken to infer that 0.5% CHG with alcohol is any inferior to 2% CHG with alcohol (or vice versa).

    I have not suggested to use alcohol alone for surgical skin preparation; the combinations of either CHG+ALC or PVI+ALC have clear benefits of being combination antiseptics with enhanced activity. What I was suggesting is that people should get less hung up about the role of CHG in the CHG+ALC combination. The microbiological properties of skin antiseptics have been studied for over 100 years (e.g. Harrington and Walker. Boston Medical and Surgical Journal. 1903; 148: 548-52), and a wealth of information particularly came from studies done in the 1970s and 1980s. From this branch of the literature, the microbiological properties of the various skin antiseptics are well defined. Alcohols are known to be far superior in their immediate antimicrobial activity than either CHG or PVI. While evidence from clinical trials is clearly the best evidence, this evidence CANNOT be assessed in isolation, and it is necessary — while assessing evidence — to have a holistic picture with taking the necessary scientific background (in this case: microbiological background) and the principles of biological plausibility into account. That this was not commonly done in evidence assessments for skin antisepsis — and people focussed blindly on clinical trial outcomes — is presumably the reason for the massive, large-scale medical literature error that we described in our PLoS One (2012) article and subsequently commented upon further in our recent J Antimicrob Chemother (2014) article.

    The advice “Do not use to disinfect surfaces likely to come in contact with broken skin” for the CHLORHEXIDINE 0.5% IN ALCOHOL 70% TINTED RED that you mention presumably simply means that alcohol-containing antiseptics are unsuitable to be used on wounds (also mucous membranes).

    The range of CHG concentrations that I have seen in CHG+ALC combinations for surgical skin preparation is 0.5% to 3.15% (the latter an odd number by one particular manufacturer. The 4% CHG concentration would be typical of aqueous CHG antiseptics (as John Ferguson states).

    Best regards, Matthias.


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    Hi Matthias,

    To access IHI information – you just need to register and then you can get access to information such as the How to Guides – it’s free.

    We should clarify for those following this thread that the CDC reference to “Prepare clean skin with a >0.5% chlorhexidine preparation with alcohol…………….” is referring to skin preparation for intravascular devices not surgical (preoperative) skin preparation – extract from guidelines below.

    Guidelines for the Prevention of Intravascular Catheter-Related Infections, 2011

    * “Prepare clean skin with a >0.5% chlorhexidine preparation with alcohol before central venous catheter and peripheral arterial catheter insertion and during dressing changes. If there is a contraindication to chlorhexidine, tincture of iodine, an iodophor, or 70% alcohol can be used as alternatives [82, 83]. Category IA”

    While there may be supportive evidence for >0.5% chlorhexidine and alcohol preparations for the prevention of catheter-related bloodstream infections we shouldn’t assume that this will necessarily be the case for reducing surgical site infections(SSIs). Hence until we see the studies that clearly demonstrate that alcohol alone is better that CHG and alcohol, Iodine and alcohol, CHG alone or Iodine alone for surgical (preoperative) skin preparation to prevent surgical site infections we should be cautious about what we suggest people focus on.

    This recent publication from St Vincent’s Hospital, Melbourne may be of interest to those considering a 0.5% CHG and alcohol preparation for surgical (preoperative) skin preparation

    The study showed that patients who received skin prep with 0.5% chlorhexidine and alcohol prior to orthopaedic surgical procedures were at higher risk of superficial infection than those who received 1% iodine and alcohol, p0.012.

    Carroll K. et al. Risk factors for superficial wound complications in hip and knee arthroplasty. Clinical Microbiology and Infection, Volume 20, Issue 2, pages 130-135, February 2014

    * “The study was performed over an 18-month period (January 2011 to June 2012) and included 964 patients undergoing prosthetic hip or knee replacement surgery

    * In the multivariable logistic regression analysis patients who received skin prep with 0.5% chlorhexidine and alcohol were at higher risk of superficial infection than those who received 1% iodine and alcohol, p0.012.

    * The authors acknowledge findings may reflect surgeon preference and experience and that skin prep requires more evaluation/RCT”.

    *
    Thanks for forwarding the ProPublica scandal publication, very interesting reading.

    I see the US company concerned settled with the US Dept of Justice avoiding criminal charges for allegations of fraud against the government and the product is now approved by the FDA as outlined in a US Department of Justice Press Release titled “CareFusion to Pay the Government $40.1 Million to Resolve Allegations That Include More Than $11 Million in Kickbacks to One Doctor” on Thursday, January 9, 2014:

    * ” The settlement resolves allegations that, under agreements entered into in 2008 by CareFusion’s predecessor, CareFusion paid $11.6 million in kickbacks to Dr. Charles Denham while Denham served as the co-chair of the Safe Practices Committee at the National Quality Forum, a non-profit organization that reviews, endorses and recommends standardized health care performance measures and practices. The government contends that the purpose of those payments was to induce Denham to recommend, promote and arrange for the purchase of ChloraPrep by health care providers. ChloraPrep has been approved by the Food and Drug Administration for the preparation of a patient’s skin prior to surgery or injection”.

    * “This settlement also resolves allegations that, during the period between September 2009 and August 2011, CareFusion knowingly promoted the sale of ChloraPrep for uses that were not approved by the Food and Drug Administration, some of which were not medically accepted indications, and made unsubstantiated representations about the appropriate uses of ChloraPrep. ChloraPrep has been approved by the Food and Drug Administration for the preparation of a patient’s skin prior to surgery or injection”.
    http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2014/January/14-civ-021.html
    http://www.ag.ny.gov/pdfs/Settlement_Agreement.pdf

    In addition the product concerned has also been registered with the TGA in Australia and is on the ARTG list for use as “Sterile tinted antiseptic applied to patient’s skin prior to invasive medical procedures”.

    https://www.ebs.tga.gov.au/servlet/xmlmillr6?dbidebs/PublicHTML/pdfStore.nsf&docidD9C1698728A822FDCA257CA5003CC3EC&agid(PrintDetailsPublic)&actionid1

    While the FDA discredited the NEJM publication in court proceedings as outlined at the ProPublica link I don’t see where the publication it has been discredited by the NEJM nor the U.S. National Institutes of Health, Clinical Trials Unit who approved the trail?

    Given that the allegations of impropriety and kickbacks where towards Dr. Charles Denham, who was not an author of the NEJM publication and the trail was a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial and conflicts of interest were disclosed the results and conclusion below may still be valid.

    Chlorhexidine-Alcohol versus Povidone-Iodine for Surgical-Site Antisepsis N Engl J Med 2010;362:18-26.

    Results

    “A total of 849 subjects (409 in the chlorhexidine-alcohol group and 440 in the povidone-iodine group) qualified for the intention-to-treat analysis. The overall rate of surgical-site infection was significantly lower in the chlorhexidine-alcohol group than in the povidone-iodine group (9.5% vs. 16.1%; P 0.004; relative risk, 0.59; 95% confidence interval, 0.41 to 0.85). Chlorhexidine-alcohol was significantly more protective than povidone-iodine against both superficial incisional infections (4.2% vs. 8.6%, P 0.008) and deep incisional infections (1% vs. 3%, P 0.05) but not against organ-space infections (4.4% vs. 4.5%). Similar results were observed in the per-protocol analysis of the 813 patients who remained in the study during the 30-day follow-up period. Adverse events were similar in the two study groups”.

    Conclusion

    “Preoperative cleansing of the patient’s skin with chlorhexidine-alcohol is superior to cleansing with povidone-iodine for preventing surgical-site infection after clean contaminated surgery. (ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT00290290.)

    In addition I think you will find in the US that there are only 2 concentrations of CHG and alcohol available for surgical (preoperative) skin preparation – 2% or 4 % – happy to be corrected.

    In Australia the supplier/manufacturer of the CHLORHEXIDINE 0.5% IN ALCOHOL 70% TINTED RED that I think jenny is referring to states the following on their users product guide:

    * Do not use to disinfect therapeutic devices.

    * Do not use to disinfect surfaces likely to come in contact with broken skin.

    Regards

    Glenys

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    Hi Glenys,

    Interesting. I had not yet seen the IHI Project JOINTS website. Some of the contents seem to be behind a login-wall, though.

    The “2%” CHX specified percentage brings up an interesting issue; there was a recent US healthcare scandal in which it is alleged that an ex committee member of the US National Quality Forum (NQF) inappropriately influenced the NQF towards a 2% CHG-containing solution, at a time when only one manufacturer provided that particular percentage (meaning a 2% endorsement would direct consumers towards that manufacturer’s product) and at a time when there was no clear evidence to prefer a particular CHX percentage over another (as John Ferguson states).

    http://www.propublica.org/article/hidden-financial-ties-rattle-top-health-quality-group

    People should not get so focused on the CHX component; as I have often emphasised, it is known from many decades of microbiological testing both in vitro and on human skin that alcohols, when well formulated, are about 10 times more microbiologically effective than CHX.

    Interesting, the second reference (2014 Update) lists routine preoperative CHX showering/bathing/wiping as an unresolved issue. While this practice is supported by a good microbiological rationale (and those who know me know that I like microbiological rationales), it is not yet quite established whether this translates into better clinical outcomes. Note, this is different from specific preoperative decolonisation of MSSA/MRSA cariers, which seems indeed to translate into better outcomes. Also, for classical skin antisepsis (‘skin prep’) as discussed above, it is also well established that this translates into outcomes.

    Best regards, Matthias.


    Matthias Maiwald, MD, FRCPA
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    Hi Jenny,

    Sorry to join the discussion in relation to surgical preoperative skin preparation late.

    Your surgeons request may relate to the Institute of Healthcare Improvement (IHI) Project JOINTS.
    http://www.ihi.org/engage/initiatives/completed/projectjoints/Pages/default.aspx

    In addition to the interventions recommended by the Surgical Care Improvement Project (SCIP) (i.e. appropriate use of prophylactic antibiotics, appropriate hair removal…..and so on) Project JOINTS recommends the following interventions for elective hip and knee arthroplasty procedures:

    1. Use of an alcohol-containing antiseptic agent for preoperative skin preparation.

    Hospitals participating in the IHI Project JOINTS are using one of the following surgical preoperative skin preparations (personal communication):

    o 2% CHG plus alcohol

    * 10% Iodophor plus alcohol
    You can find additional information in the IHI Project JOINTS, “How to Guide” including the following.

    * IHI Project JOINTS How-to Guide: Prevent Surgical Site Infection for Hip and Knee Arthroplasty: “The combination of a long-acting agent (either an iodophor or CHG) is better than povidone iodine alone for preventing SSI. There is insufficient evidence to support recommending the use of one combination agent over another”.
    2. Preoperative bathing or showering with chlorhexidine gluconate (CHG) soap for at least three days before surgery – most are using CHG wipes (personal communication).
    3. Staphylococcus aureus screening and use of intranasal mupirocin and CHG bathing or showering to decolonize Staphylococcus aureus carriers.

    In addition the recent publication from the Society for Healthcare Epidemiology of America (SHEA) and the Infectious Diseases Society of America (IDSA) Practice Recommendations “Strategies to Prevent Surgical Site Infections in Acute Care Hospitals: 2014 Update – Intervention number one is a Grade 1 (high) level of evidence recommendation and may be worth a read.

    “Use alcohol-containing preoperative skin preparatory agents if no contraindication exists (quality of evidence: I).
    a. Alcohol is highly bactericidal and effective for preoperative skin antisepsis but does not have persistent activity when used alone. Rapid, persistent, and cumulative antisepsis can be achieved by combining alcohol with chlorhexidine gluconate or an iodophor.115
    i. Alcohol is contraindicated for certain procedures, including procedures in which the preparatory agent may pool or not dry (e.g., involving hair) due to fire risk. Alcohol may also be contraindicated for procedures involving mucosa, cornea, or ear.
    b. The most effective disinfectant to combine with alcohol is unclear…….”.

    The publication is freely available online at the following link: http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/676022

    Your surgeon may want a tinted product so he/she can see where it has been applied, although any staining (tinted CHG or Idophor) may obscure signs of inflammation post-operatively.

    regards

    Glenys

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    thankyou to everyone who responded to my question – its given me a great basis for discusssion with the ortho surgeon !!

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    Hi John,

    I was actually considering remaining in the background for this particular discussion. You make very good points. The (potentially) increased incidence of skin reactions is interesting information that may be worth publishing if you can.

    One may want to bear in mind that different applications of skin antisepsis (e.g. blood culture collection, surgical skin prep, vascular catheter insertion) have different functional and physiological characteristics and requirements, and for surgical skin preparation (Jenny’s question), the question of chlorhexidine/alcohol versus povidone-iodine/alcohol is unresolved. Chlorhexidine/alcohol is an excellent choice, but iodine/alcohol should not be discounted for this purpose.

    Best regards, Matthias.


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    Dear Jenny

    The critical point is that when chlorhex is mixed with alcohol , there is no apparent benefit from exceeding 0.5%.

    The old literature on 2% C and lines related to an aqueous preparation.
    Furthermore, we found an increase in skin reactions to the more concentrated products (went to a poster).

    Matthias M will comment no doubt – he has recently published this piece that is of relevance – Maiwald M, Chan ESY. Pitfalls in evidence assessment: the case of chlorhexidine and alcohol in skin antisepsis (Leading Article). J. Antimicrob. Chemother. (2014) Advance Access.
    http://jac.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2014/04/28/jac.dku121.abstract

    Kind regards
    John

    Dr John Ferguson
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    Hi Jenny,
    There is lots of supportive evidence for 2%CHG in 70%IPA, particularly for invasive device skin preparation (CVC/PICC/PIVC,ICC/Epidural, etc,etc..)
    Here is a link to Dr William Jarvis discussing the differences of various skin preps.
    http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/761489
    There is both a video of the discussion..
    To cut to the conclusion;
    The findings were very interesting. Of greatest importance, the investigators found that all products (0.5% chlorhexidine with ethanol, 1% chlorhexidine with ethanol, and 2% chlorhexidine with isopropyl alcohol) were equally effective. This will be very helpful information when you are trying to select a product for preparation of the insertion site for intravascular catheters or for a preoperative surgical antiseptic. Chlorhexidine is effective, and different concentrations of chlorhexidine are equally effective, with no statistically significant difference in colony counts. All of these products should be equally beneficial to patients in preventing central line-associated bloodstream infections or surgical site infections.

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    Hi all – not sure if this has already been discussed and apologies if it has – one of the orthopaedic surgeons here is requesting Chlorhexidine 2% with 70% alcohol (tinted red) as opposed to the 0.5% with 70% alcohol for skin prep. Firstly, is there an advantage to using the 2% as opposed to the 0.5% and if so would anyone have any literature to support this

    Thanks
    Jenny McCarthy
    Maryvale Private Hospital

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