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    joe.bendall@BIGPOND.COM Subject: Setting up a AS/NZS 4187:2014 – 6.1.2 Immediate use sterilization MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=”—-=_NextPart_001_032D_01D54202.F76D2230″ Message-ID:
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    Good morning

    Just wondering if anyone has set up an area in the operating theatre for a
    benchtop ‘flash’ steriliser? This would be used if reprocessing was
    performed offsite (outsourced). It would only be used for a dropped or
    suspected compromised sterility RMD that is of limited supply. Not routinely
    used.

    I have heard some conflicting opinions on what is required.

    I believe from reading AS/NZS 4187:2014 that a designated area must include
    an area for cleaning, drying and the sterility would not be compromised when
    it is removed from the benchtop ‘flash’ steriliser. This would not be an
    endoscopy reprocessing room as has been suggested (but I will accept another
    opinion)!

    I am uncertain on what the air handling system should be eg HEPA filtration
    and the same as recommended for sterilisation areas.

    AS/NZS 4187:2014 continues to put challenges in our path…….it is all
    down to interpretation of the whole document and not just little sections!

    I would value some advice from a colleague who has installed a benchtop
    ‘flash’ steriliser in the operating theatre.

    Thank you

    Joe

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    Michael Wishart
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    Hi Joe

    I will confess to not having placed a flash sterilizer in an OT for many, many years (have removed them all!), but if one was required one of the main factors to consider is how the ‘flashed’ instruments get transported from the steriliser into the OT.

    If you use a container system of some sort, the instruments inside will be protected from the environment and handling once sterilised, and so the transport from the steriliser to the OR is not as compromised (although it is very difficult to validate this consistently). The other option is ‘open’ trays or racks that are carried from the steriliser to the OR. This would mean that you need to safeguard the instruments from environmental and handling contamination for the whole passage from the steriliser to the OR. That is fraught with difficulties (opening doors, scrubbed staff walking through ancillary areas), Almost impossible to validate a process like that and is one of the reasons we stopped doing flash sterilisation in OT.

    I know this is probably not helpful to you here, but I personally would do everything in my power NOT to support a flash sterilization process, as I believe they compromise the sterility of critical instruments, and cannot be easily validated. More instrument availability would be what I would look at exploring to try and reduce the likelihood of needing a process like this..

    Isn’t this forum great for getting opinions of others? That’s mine. 🙂

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Good morning

    Just wondering if anyone has set up an area in the operating theatre for a benchtop ‘flash’ steriliser? This would be used if reprocessing was performed offsite (outsourced). It would only be used for a dropped or suspected compromised sterility RMD that is of limited supply. Not routinely used.

    I have heard some conflicting opinions on what is required.

    I believe from reading AS/NZS 4187:2014 that a designated area must include an area for cleaning, drying and the sterility would not be compromised when it is removed from the benchtop ‘flash’ steriliser. This would not be an endoscopy reprocessing room as has been suggested (but I will accept another opinion)!

    I am uncertain on what the air handling system should be eg HEPA filtration and the same as recommended for sterilisation areas.

    AS/NZS 4187:2014 continues to put challenges in our path……………….it is all down to interpretation of the whole document and not just little sections!

    I would value some advice from a colleague who has installed a benchtop ‘flash’ steriliser in the operating theatre.

    Thank you
    Joe

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    Morris, Sylvia (Health)
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    Hi Joe

    I think you will find few people are installing flash sterilisers in theatres as most people have had the task of removing them from theatre. Elimination of flash sterilisation has been recommended in AS/NZS4187 since at least 2003.

    AS/NZS4187 indicates that insufficient instruments is not an excuse for flash sterilisation so the most important thing would be to try and have a good supply of sterile critical items which I know is not easy but best practice.

    So if outsourcing processing you may need to order back up sets as well as the one to be used. Maybe try and have a supply of critical single use RMDs if available.

    The problems in the past with flash sterilisers were:

    * Inappropriate use for cannulated items (most flash sterilisers that I have seen in the past were downward displacement and not vacuum assisted to save time.)

    * Burn risk to staff

    * Inadequately maintained

    * Costly as validation required even for occasional use

    * Facility air conditioning and area not correct where they were situated

    * Potential for contamination during removal of items from steriliser

    * Potential for contamination during transport

    * Potential for contamination when cooling down very hot items with sterile water in theatre

    To comply with work flow the flash would have to have access on a “dirty” site where the instrument would be cleaned, and then removed on a clean side. Again you are right the dirty and clean side would have set requirements.

    To date there have been few outsourcing options but as there are some on the horizon and facilities choose to go this way this may become a bigger problem in the future and lead to more discussion for the standards writers.

    Best wishes

    Sylvia

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    Good morning

    Just wondering if anyone has set up an area in the operating theatre for a benchtop ‘flash’ steriliser? This would be used if reprocessing was performed offsite (outsourced). It would only be used for a dropped or suspected compromised sterility RMD that is of limited supply. Not routinely used.

    I have heard some conflicting opinions on what is required.

    I believe from reading AS/NZS 4187:2014 that a designated area must include an area for cleaning, drying and the sterility would not be compromised when it is removed from the benchtop ‘flash’ steriliser. This would not be an endoscopy reprocessing room as has been suggested (but I will accept another opinion)!

    I am uncertain on what the air handling system should be eg HEPA filtration and the same as recommended for sterilisation areas.

    AS/NZS 4187:2014 continues to put challenges in our path……………….it is all down to interpretation of the whole document and not just little sections!

    I would value some advice from a colleague who has installed a benchtop ‘flash’ steriliser in the operating theatre.

    Thank you
    Joe

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