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07/02/2014 at 2:44 pm #70769Paul SimpsonParticipant
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Hi All,
My hospital has just entered into a major redevelopment phase & I have had a number questions about installing sensor operated taps in both clinical & non-clinical environments. I have initially been reticent about their use based on the report from the John Hopkins that suggested senor taps had higher bacterial counts which they speculated may be due to the increased complexity of these taps. However, a joint ‘ASHE & APIC Statement on Recently Presented Research on Electronic Faucets (2011)’ is generally supportive of their use. There isn’t a heap of evidence out there to draw any absolute conclusion on so I was wondering if anyone out there has a view or experience with installing & using sensor taps.Regards,
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07/02/2014 at 2:56 pm #70771Michael WishartParticipantAuthor:
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Hi Paul
My only experiences with senor taps were some years ago, and the major issues were failure of the taps to discharge water (battery operated taps – kept dying at odd moments and you had to call maintenance to change the batteries), and what happened during power failure for wired in taps (no water anywhere from any hand basin!). Both of these issue may no longer be a problem with better technology, and since the advent of waterless hand hygiene agents the impact of handbasins not operating in hospitals has decreased (you no longer would have to cart water from elsewhere to keep in basins around the ward for hand washing…). But I have remained wary because of these past experiences in recommending electronic sensor taps. In our last redevelopment here we went with knee operated levers taps, which work very well once you get used to them, and has a side effect of improving those skiing muscles around your knees. 🙂 We do have some electronic sensor taps here, and they generally work well with no issues.
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Hi All,
My hospital has just entered into a major redevelopment phase & I have had a number questions about installing sensor operated taps in both clinical & non-clinical environments. I have initially been reticent about their use based on the report from the John Hopkins that suggested senor taps had higher bacterial counts which they speculated may be due to the increased complexity of these taps. However, a joint ‘ASHE & APIC Statement on Recently Presented Research on Electronic Faucets (2011)’ is generally supportive of their use. There isn’t a heap of evidence out there to draw any absolute conclusion on so I was wondering if anyone out there has a view or experience with installing & using sensor taps.Regards,
Paul Simpson, RN, MSc
Infection Control Consultant
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Royal Victorian Eye & Ear Hospital
32 Gisborne Street, East Melbourne, 3002, VIC
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07/02/2014 at 3:08 pm #70772Hi Paul,
It largely depends on the design of the sensor taps… I do believe this was discussed here before
and you may wish to check your email archives.
In my previous place of work, the sensor taps utilised in the ICU department (which mixed both hot
and cold water) were found to be the source for an MRPA outbreak.
I believe splash-back from staff tipping body fluids into the sinks contributed to this and also
the flawed design of the sensor taps…
These taps comprised of 2 external pipes (one hot and one cold) leading into one tap outlet.
Where they lead and connect together, there is a small reservoir of stagnant water between them
which once contaminated, becomes a pain to clean/eradicate and will require regular maintenance plus
monitoring.
I’ve not looked into newer designs which may have factored this issue into consideration… so
highly advisable that you look into the various options on the market.
All the best with your redevelopment.
Regards,
GeraldGerald Chan
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>>> Paul Simpson 7/02/2014 11:44 AM >>>Hi All,
My hospital has just entered into a major redevelopment phase & I have had a number questions about
installing sensor operated taps in both clinical & non-clinical environments. I have initially been
reticent about their use based on the report from the John Hopkins that suggested senor taps had
higher bacterial counts which they speculated may be due to the increased complexity of these taps.
However, a joint ASHE & APIC Statement on Recently Presented Research on Electronic Faucets (2011)
is generally supportive of their use. There isnt a heap of evidence out there to draw any absolute
conclusion on so I was wondering if anyone out there has a view or experience with installing &
using sensor taps.
Regards,
Paul Simpson, RN, MSc
Infection Control Consultant
(Mon,Tues,Thurs & Friday)
Royal Victorian Eye & Ear Hospital
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07/02/2014 at 3:40 pm #70773Hi Paul,
I have worked in a number of facilities with sensor taps including my current one. The experience of how well they work and of them failing depends a lot on the initial quality of the tap sensors and also the regular maintenance. We are currently installing them in our redevelopment and they will be on the emergency backup power system.
In relation to their potential for increased infection risk due to higher bacterial counts I have no ‘on the ground’ evidence either way to say that they are causing increased or decreased infections in our facility.
Kind regards,Fiona De Sousa
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Sydney Adventist Hospital
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185 Fox Valley Road, Wahroonga, NSW, 2076Hi All,
My hospital has just entered into a major redevelopment phase & I have had a number questions about installing sensor operated taps in both clinical & non-clinical environments. I have initially been reticent about their use based on the report from the John Hopkins that suggested senor taps had higher bacterial counts which they speculated may be due to the increased complexity of these taps. However, a joint ‘ASHE & APIC Statement on Recently Presented Research on Electronic Faucets (2011)’ is generally supportive of their use. There isn’t a heap of evidence out there to draw any absolute conclusion on so I was wondering if anyone out there has a view or experience with installing & using sensor taps.Regards,
Paul Simpson, RN, MSc
Infection Control Consultant
(Mon,Tues,Thurs & Friday)
Royal Victorian Eye & Ear Hospital
32 Gisborne Street, East Melbourne, 3002, VIC
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08/02/2014 at 12:38 pm #70774Hi Paul
I have been involved in the design and commissioning a new 100 bed regional acute care hospital which opened in May 2013 and we elected to install sensor taps at all clinical hand basins. There were plenty of nay sayers including our maintenance staff however the taps are working well they just needed some initial temperature adjustments. High microbial counts are usually associated with aerators on taps which should not be installed on any taps at clinical hand basins. My advice is be very clear about the required temperature and aim for body temperature. We do find in the ambulatory care wing that on Monday morning when the water in the pipes is cold it takes a few minutes to get to the correct temperature. Needless to say you need to avoid hot water at all costs and I found I had to debate this issue with the contractors on a few occasions.
Regards
Maureen CreminRegional Infection Control CoordinatorWACHS Great Southern
Date: Fri 7 Feb 2014 03:44:05 +0000Hi All
My hospital has just entered into a major redevelopment phase & I have had a number questions about installing sensor operated taps in both clinical & non-clinical environments. I have initially been reticent about
their use based on the report from the John Hopkins that suggested senor taps had higher bacterial counts which they speculated may be due to the increased complexity of these taps. However a joint ASHE & APIC Statement on Recently Presented Research on
Electronic Faucets (2011) is generally supportive of their use. There isnt a heap of evidence out there to draw any absolute conclusion on so I was wondering if anyone out there has a view or experience with installing & using sensor taps.Regards
Paul Simpson RN MSc
Infection Control Consultant
(MonTuesThurs & Friday)
Royal Victorian Eye & Ear Hospital
32 Gisborne Street East Melbourne 3002 VIC______________________________________________________________________
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