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24/02/2014 at 7:24 am #70842Margaret EvansParticipant
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Hi All
Our physician wants pharmacy to dispense a prefilled insulin pen to the patient and nursing staff use this to administer the required dose. This pen would then be used by both the nursing staff & patient throughout the patients admission.
I am wondering about the safety of using insulin pens as we have had a number of needlestick injuries from them in the past. If you do use then do you have procedures in place to prevent NSI that you would be happy to share
Thanks for your thoughts
Kind regards
MargieMargaret Evans IP&C CNC
Royal Hospital for Women
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24/02/2014 at 8:41 am #70843Michael WishartParticipantAuthor:
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Hi Margaret
Staff needlestick injuries from the use of pen needles has been an issue for some time. CHRISP produced an advisory of the use of pen needles some time ago.
http://www.health.qld.gov.au/chrisp/resources/advisory_inj_pen.pdf
There is now at least one safety pen needle on the market in Australia, which are suitable for staff to use with most types of pen delivery devices. I can provide more details if you contact me off-list.
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart
Infection Control Coordinator
Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
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Subject: safety of insulin pens for nursing staff use?Hi All
Our physician wants pharmacy to dispense a prefilled insulin pen to the patient and nursing staff use this to administer the required dose. This pen would then be used by both the nursing staff & patient throughout the patients admission.
I am wondering about the safety of using insulin pens as we have had a number of needlestick injuries from them in the past. If you do use then do you have procedures in place to prevent NSI that you would be happy to share
Thanks for your thoughts
Kind regards
MargieMargaret Evans IP&C CNC
Royal Hospital for Women
Locked Mail Bag 2000
Randwick 2031
Phone 02 93826339Senior Clinical lectures,
Sydney university———————————————————————————————
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24/02/2014 at 8:54 am #70847Houston, Leanne (BHH)ParticipantAuthor:
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We have a policy that insulin pens may only be used in our facilities where the patient can safely self administer and recap. Staff are not permitted to use the pens as we too had seen many incidents mostly related to recapping of the pen.
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From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Margaret Evans
Sent: Monday, 24 February 2014 7:25 AM
To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
Subject: safety of insulin pens for nursing staff use?Hi All
Our physician wants pharmacy to dispense a prefilled insulin pen to the patient and nursing staff use this to administer the required dose. This pen would then be used by both the nursing staff & patient throughout the patients admission.
I am wondering about the safety of using insulin pens as we have had a number of needlestick injuries from them in the past. If you do use then do you have procedures in place to prevent NSI that you would be happy to share
Thanks for your thoughts
Kind regards
MargieMargaret Evans IP&C CNC
Royal Hospital for Women
Locked Mail Bag 2000
Randwick 2031
Phone 02 93826339Senior Clinical lectures,
Sydney university———————————————————————————————
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24/02/2014 at 9:22 am #70844Hello Marg. I agree with you. Needlestick injury is the big risk with using the insulin pens as they have to be recapped after use and the needles manually removed. Hence, manipulation leads to increased risk. We also use the QLD CHRISP advisory regarding not using these pens when there is an RN who is able to draw up insulin in a needle and syringe. At times, in the out of hospital setting, there is no other choice in this case. We document a risk assessment and training of staff to ensure they are aware of the risks and the safest possible way of management of the devices. There are some devices on the market to assist with removal of the needle however they are not supported by companies concerned to state they are a safety device
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Subject: Re: safety of insulin pens for nursing staff use?Hi Margaret
Staff needlestick injuries from the use of pen needles has been an issue for some time. CHRISP produced an advisory of the use of pen needles some time ago.
http://www.health.qld.gov.au/chrisp/resources/advisory_inj_pen.pdf
There is now at least one safety pen needle on the market in Australia, which are suitable for staff to use with most types of pen delivery devices. I can provide more details if you contact me off-list.
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart
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Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032
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Subject: safety of insulin pens for nursing staff use?Hi All
Our physician wants pharmacy to dispense a prefilled insulin pen to the patient and nursing staff use this to administer the required dose. This pen would then be used by both the nursing staff & patient throughout the patients admission.
I am wondering about the safety of using insulin pens as we have had a number of needlestick injuries from them in the past. If you do use then do you have procedures in place to prevent NSI that you would be happy to share
Thanks for your thoughts
Kind regards
MargieMargaret Evans IP&C CNC
Royal Hospital for Women
Locked Mail Bag 2000
Randwick 2031
Phone 02 93826339Senior Clinical lectures,
Sydney university———————————————————————————————
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24/02/2014 at 10:07 am #70846Carolyn.Chenoweth@FMC-ASIA.COM Subject: Re: safety of insulin pens for nursing staff use? In-Reply-To:ParticipantAuthor:
Carolyn.Chenoweth@FMC-ASIA.COM Subject: Re: safety of insulin pens for nursing staff use? In-Reply-To:Email:
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HI Margie,
We have had a couple of NSI from recapping insulin pens. We now have a
policy similar to CHRISP stating if a patient cannot administer and recap
their own insulin pen, insulin is to be prescribed by a doctor and nurses
are to draw up insulin and administer and dispose without recapping single
use syringe and needle.With best regards
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Hi All
Our physician wants pharmacy to dispense a prefilled insulin pen to the
patient and nursing staff use this to administer the required dose. This
pen would then be used by both the nursing staff & patient throughout the
patients admission.I am wondering about the safety of using insulin pens as we have had a
number of needlestick injuries from them in the past. If you do use then
do you have procedures in place to prevent NSI that you would be happy to
shareThanks for your thoughts
Kind regards
MargieMargaret Evans IP&C CNC
Royal Hospital for Women
Locked Mail Bag 2000
Randwick 2031
Phone 02 93826339Senior Clinical lectures,
Sydney university———————————————————————————————
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24/02/2014 at 1:55 pm #70848Lincoln FowlerParticipantAuthor:
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I wouldnt recommend using the insulin pens unless the self-sheathing needles were provided for staff. I have used some of these products when working in Europe but havent seen them in Australia.
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Subject: safety of insulin pens for nursing staff use?Hi All
Our physician wants pharmacy to dispense a prefilled insulin pen to the patient and nursing staff use this to administer the required dose. This pen would then be used by both the nursing staff & patient throughout the patients admission.
I am wondering about the safety of using insulin pens as we have had a number of needlestick injuries from them in the past. If you do use then do you have procedures in place to prevent NSI that you would be happy to share
Thanks for your thoughts
Kind regards
Margie
Margaret Evans IP&C CNC
Royal Hospital for Women
Locked Mail Bag 2000
Randwick 2031
Phone 02 93826339
Senior Clinical lectures,
Sydney university
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24/02/2014 at 2:11 pm #70850McEwan, Melissa MSParticipantAuthor:
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There are sharps’ engineered insulin pens available in Australia,
whether they are available in different health services is another story
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I wouldn’t recommend using the insulin pens unless the self-sheathing
needles were provided for staff. I have used some of these products when
working in Europe but haven’t seen them in Australia.Lincoln Fowler
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Our physician wants pharmacy to dispense a prefilled insulin pen to the
patient and nursing staff use this to administer the required dose. This
pen would then be used by both the nursing staff & patient throughout
the patients admission.I am wondering about the safety of using insulin pens as we have had a
number of needlestick injuries from them in the past. If you do use then
do you have procedures in place to prevent NSI that you would be happy
to shareThanks for your thoughts
Kind regards
Margie
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Royal Hospital for Women
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Randwick 2031
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Hi All
We currently use a safety needle specifically for use with insulin pens. This has reduced our needlestick injuries with insulin pens. Very easy to use and automatically retracts the needle.
Kind regards
Julie Baile | A/Clinical Nurse – Infection Prevention & Management | Fremantle Hospital & Health Service | Tel 9431 3220 | Pager 4173| julie.baile@health.wa.gov.au
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Hi All
Our physician wants pharmacy to dispense a prefilled insulin pen to the patient and nursing staff use this to administer the required dose. This pen would then be used by both the nursing staff & patient throughout the patients admission.
I am wondering about the safety of using insulin pens as we have had a number of needlestick injuries from them in the past. If you do use then do you have procedures in place to prevent NSI that you would be happy to share
Thanks for your thoughts
Kind regards
MargieMargaret Evans IP&C CNC
Royal Hospital for Women
Locked Mail Bag 2000
Randwick 2031
Phone 02 93826339Senior Clinical lectures,
Sydney university———————————————————————————————
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