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    Dear colleagues,
    We are currently in the design phase of developing our new hospital. Health Infrastructure are pushing a design of a two bed toe to toe room with only 1388mm space between. This measurement does not take into account the curtains around both beds.
    I have been searching through the literature for some evidence to support an IP&C argument reflecting the need for increasing the space between the two patient zones.
    Health Infrastructure require concrete and not anecdotal evidence.

    Does anyone know of any IP&C literature that states design schematics for room designs?
    Kind regards
    Kristin

    Kristin Ryan-Agnew
    Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
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    #75611
    Marija Juraja
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    Hi Kristin,

    I have attached some documents that may be useful if you don’t already have access to them, including the hyperlink.

    https://healthfacilityguidelines.com.au/

    this link goes directly to room measurement requirements (have attached the documents as well).

    https://healthfacilityguidelines.com.au/health-planning-units

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    Dear colleagues,
    We are currently in the design phase of developing our new hospital. Health Infrastructure are pushing a design of a two bed toe to toe room with only 1388mm space between. This measurement does not take into account the curtains around both beds.
    I have been searching through the literature for some evidence to support an IP&C argument reflecting the need for increasing the space between the two patient zones.
    Health Infrastructure require concrete and not anecdotal evidence.

    Does anyone know of any IP&C literature that states design schematics for room designs?
    Kind regards
    Kristin

    Kristin Ryan-Agnew
    Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
    Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
    The Tweed Hospital

    [cid:image001.png@01D36E89.D6B88C30] National Standard 3 : Preventing and Controlling Healthcare Associated Infections

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    #75607
    Morris, Sylvia (Health)
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    Have you looked at the Australasian health facility guidelines, they may help. Not sure if they get to that exact detail but we use them when looking at dimensions of rooms when licensing day surgeries.

    Best wishes

    Sylvia

    Sylvia Morris
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    Dear colleagues,
    We are currently in the design phase of developing our new hospital. Health Infrastructure are pushing a design of a two bed toe to toe room with only 1388mm space between. This measurement does not take into account the curtains around both beds.
    I have been searching through the literature for some evidence to support an IP&C argument reflecting the need for increasing the space between the two patient zones.
    Health Infrastructure require concrete and not anecdotal evidence.

    Does anyone know of any IP&C literature that states design schematics for room designs?
    Kind regards
    Kristin

    Kristin Ryan-Agnew
    Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
    Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
    The Tweed Hospital

    [cid:image001.png@01D36E89.D6B88C30] National Standard 3 : Preventing and Controlling Healthcare Associated Infections

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    #75626
    Fiona Cooper
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    Hi Kristin
    My only suggestion is to refer to the Australian Health Facility Guidelines.
    https://healthfacilityguidelines.com.au/part/part-c-design-access-mobility-safety-and-security
    https://healthfacilityguidelines.com.au/search?fulltext2%20bed%20room&sortsearch_api_relevance%20DESC&page1

    Fiona Cooper
    [cid:image002.jpg@01D53D3F.17459DD0] Regional Manager WA
    CEO Albany Day Hospital
    CEO Bunbury Day Hospital

    We acknowledge the custodians of this land, the Nyoongar nation and their elders past, present and future. We recognise the strength, resilience and capacity of Noongar people in this land.

    Dear colleagues,
    We are currently in the design phase of developing our new hospital. Health Infrastructure are pushing a design of a two bed toe to toe room with only 1388mm space between. This measurement does not take into account the curtains around both beds.
    I have been searching through the literature for some evidence to support an IP&C argument reflecting the need for increasing the space between the two patient zones.
    Health Infrastructure require concrete and not anecdotal evidence.

    Does anyone know of any IP&C literature that states design schematics for room designs?
    Kind regards
    Kristin

    Kristin Ryan-Agnew
    Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
    Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
    The Tweed Hospital

    [cid:image001.png@01D36E89.D6B88C30] National Standard 3 : Preventing and Controlling Healthcare Associated Infections

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    #75609
    Stacey Fitzgerald
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    Stacey Fitzgerald

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    Stacey.Fitzgerald@HEALTH.WA.GOV.AU

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    Perth Childrens Hospital

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    Hi Kristin,

    Would the curtains impede access to the Clinical hand basin?
    Appendix A in: Hospital acquired infections – Engineering down the risk, has some bed configurations but they are not to scale (not sure if you have had a look at this yet.

    Good luck.

    Kind regards,

    Stacey
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    Dear colleagues,
    We are currently in the design phase of developing our new hospital. Health Infrastructure are pushing a design of a two bed toe to toe room with only 1388mm space between. This measurement does not take into account the curtains around both beds.
    I have been searching through the literature for some evidence to support an IP&C argument reflecting the need for increasing the space between the two patient zones.
    Health Infrastructure require concrete and not anecdotal evidence.

    Does anyone know of any IP&C literature that states design schematics for room designs?
    Kind regards
    Kristin

    Kristin Ryan-Agnew
    Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
    Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
    The Tweed Hospital

    [cid:image001.png@01D36E89.D6B88C30] National Standard 3 : Preventing and Controlling Healthcare Associated Infections

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    #75628
    Beckingham, Wendy
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    Kristin this is often left out of documentation when sorting the drawing.

    I have a very old book that recommends in:
    a 40 sq.m 4 bed room that the distance between two beds from bedhead centre to bedhead centre is 2240mm. The space between the ends of two facing beds is 1700mm. This latter includes 400mm from foot of bed to bed screen and a central circulation space of 900mm when screens are drawn around the bed. This can be applied to a two bed room as well

    At our facility we have run into problems where they have added form work around the oxygen and suction/medical panel therefore reducing this space without consideration to the circulation around the bed space. Important to measure before giving these measurements to ensure you are happy with the space.
    Hope this is helpful

    Wendy Beckingham
    ADON Infection Prevention and Control
    ph. (02) 512 43695 or mobile 0478408787
    RN BHSc (Nursing) Grad Cert (Infection Control) MClinicalNurs CICP- E
    Care Excellence Collaboration Integrity

    Dear colleagues,
    We are currently in the design phase of developing our new hospital. Health Infrastructure are pushing a design of a two bed toe to toe room with only 1388mm space between. This measurement does not take into account the curtains around both beds.
    I have been searching through the literature for some evidence to support an IP&C argument reflecting the need for increasing the space between the two patient zones.
    Health Infrastructure require concrete and not anecdotal evidence.

    Does anyone know of any IP&C literature that states design schematics for room designs?
    Kind regards
    Kristin

    Kristin Ryan-Agnew
    Kristin Ryan-Agnew (MPH/Grad Cert IP&C)
    Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
    The Tweed Hospital

    [cid:image001.png@01D36E89.D6B88C30] National Standard 3 : Preventing and Controlling Healthcare Associated Infections

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