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Hi All,
We are currently reviewing our protocols for the removal of arterial and venous sheaths, and are having discussions regarding the site being cleaned prior to removal. I am interested if other facilities undertake a skin prep / cleanse prior to removal and if you do what products do you use?Kind regards,
Fiona De Sousa CICP-E| Nurse Manager | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Launceston General Hospital, Level 2, Launceston TAS 7250
phone: 6777 6715 | mobile: 0408 487 197 | fax: 6777 5170 | email: fiona.de.sousa@ths.tas.gov.au |
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Hi Fiona
Thanks for asking this, has created a discussion here!
Our policy does not specify whether to clean the skin prior to sheath removal with any agent, but on talking to our critical care staff there is quite a bit of variation in actual practice.
– Some treat as an IV access procedure, and use 2% chlorhexidine and alcohol prior to removal;
– Some cleanse with normal saline prior to removal;
– Some just wipe the skin with gauze if there is blood or fluid at the site prior to removal.
Can’t see anything glaringly obvious in a number of cath lab sheath removal protocols from around the world from a quick google search, so it might be something there is not much data on.Will ask the vascular access researchers at AVATAR to see if they have any data to inform this.
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
St Vincent’s Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
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[2019 conference email signature]Hi All,
We are currently reviewing our protocols for the removal of arterial and venous sheaths, and are having discussions regarding the site being cleaned prior to removal. I am interested if other facilities undertake a skin prep / cleanse prior to removal and if you do what products do you use?
Kind regards,
Fiona De Sousa CICP-E| Nurse Manager | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Launceston General Hospital, Level 2, Launceston TAS 7250
phone: 6777 6715 | mobile: 0408 487 197 | fax: 6777 5170 | email: fiona.de.sousa@ths.tas.gov.au |
intranet: http://www.dhhs.tas.gov.au/intranet/thon/infection_controlIPCU – ‘By working together we promote a culture of safety to reduce preventable infections and transmission of multi-resistant organisms’
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Hi Fiona and Michael,
to my knowledge there is no trial to prove this one way or the other.
Given this is a hole in the skin and the blood vessel, and removal of the device may irritate the local skin thus stirring up the resident microorganisms, I would think it justified to use some form of antiseptic to clean the site prior to removal.
Particularly since this is a quick and low cost intervention, and there is commonly dried blood or moisture at the site which may potentially eight infection risk if not removed.
It’s likely then going to sit under a plastic dressing for a few days, so it would be nice to know that the microbial load had been reduced prior to applying that.
As always-important to let the antiseptic dry 1st to let it work, as well as to avoid all of the “allergies” that people blame on the dressings, which are probably more often caused by a non-dry antiseptic.Given the device is coming out, it could be argued that 70% alcohol would be adequate (potentially we don’t need the ongoing effect of chlorhexidine), but for the sake of consistency and feasibility of what is on the shelf et cetera, probably I’d go with the chlorhexidine and alcohol.
That’s my opinion based five cents anyway, Claire
Kind regards,
Dr Claire Rickard RN PhD FAHMS FACN
Director, Alliance for Vascular Access Teaching and Research
Menzies Health Institute Queensland
and
Professor of Nursing, School of Nursing and Midwifery
Griffith University, AustraliaP.S. This email may have been dictated, please excuse any errors.
Hi Fiona
Thanks for asking this, has created a discussion here!
Our policy does not specify whether to clean the skin prior to sheath removal with any agent, but on talking to our critical care staff there is quite a bit of variation in actual practice.
* Some treat as an IV access procedure, and use 2% chlorhexidine and alcohol prior to removal;
* Some cleanse with normal saline prior to removal;
* Some just wipe the skin with gauze if there is blood or fluid at the site prior to removal.
Can’t see anything glaringly obvious in a number of cath lab sheath removal protocols from around the world from a quick google search, so it might be something there is not much data on.Will ask the vascular access researchers at AVATAR to see if they have any data to inform this.
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
St Vincent’s Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
E michael.wishart@svha.org.au |
W https://www.svphn.org.au[cid:image001.jpg@01D46C86.4CDB6090]
[2019 conference email signature]Hi All,
We are currently reviewing our protocols for the removal of arterial and venous sheaths, and are having discussions regarding the site being cleaned prior to removal. I am interested if other facilities undertake a skin prep / cleanse prior to removal and if you do what products do you use?
Kind regards,
Fiona De Sousa CICP-E| Nurse Manager | Infection Prevention & Control Unit
Launceston General Hospital, Level 2, Launceston TAS 7250
phone: 6777 6715 | mobile: 0408 487 197 | fax: 6777 5170 | email: fiona.de.sousa@ths.tas.gov.au |
intranet: http://www.dhhs.tas.gov.au/intranet/thon/infection_controlIPCU – ‘By working together we promote a culture of safety to reduce preventable infections and transmission of multi-resistant organisms’
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