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29/04/2016 at 11:56 am #73044Cath MurphyParticipant
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Is anyone aware of when members will be able to register online for the conference. The website seems to not yet be ready?
Cathryn Murphy RN MPH PhD
Executive Director
Infection Control Plus Pty Ltd
PO Box 3079
Burleigh Town 4219
Queensland
AUSTRALIAE: Cath@infectioncontrolplus.com.au
Ph: +61 428 154154http://www.infectioncontrolplus.com.au
From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Glenys Harrington
Sent: Thursday, 28 April 2016 14:34 PM
To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
Subject: FW: Mycobacterium chimaera update: A must listen from ECCMIDDear All,
For those following the Mycobacterium chimaera heater-cooler units you may find some of the answers you need in the following blog from the Controversies in Hospital Infection Prevention below.
The link to the presentation by Dr. Jakko van Ingen at ECCMID is well worth looking at – see link below.
Regards
Glenys
Glenys Harrington
Consultant
Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)
PO Box 5202
Middle Park
Victoria, 3206
Australia
M: +61 404 816 434
infexion@ozemail.com.au
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Subject: Controversies in Hospital Infection PreventionControversies in Hospital Infection Prevention
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Mycobacterium chimaera update: A must listen from ECCMID
Posted: 14 Apr 2016 06:33 PM PDT
[https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nSG7E3FIOUI/VxA6EVJ7aOI/AAAAAAAABPc/yxCsKjr02FI703yFHoldb2azHpKcIXGSQCLcB/s640/cover%2Bphoto%2Bfor%2Bblog.jpg]Weve posted several times about the horrible M. chimaera outbreak linked to heater-cooler units (HCUs) used during cardiac bypass surgery. As weve addressed the problem here at Iowa, weve become increasingly frustrated (and dumbfounded) at the lack of available information about the clinical and epidemiological features of the outbreak itself, and at the general lack of urgency about this ongoing and grave risk to patients.
Fortunately, Dr. Jakko van Ingen gave an excellent talk at ECCMID that answers several important questions weve had about this outbreak, confirming some of the things weve heard (in confidence, I assume for political or legal reasons) on various conference calls and email strings. I urge you to take 30 minutes of your time to listen to his talk, all the way to the end of the Q&A period.
Aside from being an extremely entertaining speaker, Jakko addresses several key questions, including:
Is this a clonal outbreak? YES. Slide 29 reports whole genome sequencing data that clusters the isolates from Sorin 3T units and infected patients (within just 2-3 SNPs), and further discussion (during Q&A session) confirms that isolates from other European countries are also in this cluster.
Were the HCUs already contaminated prior to being shipped to end users? YES. Listen carefully to the last question and answer.
Does this particular outbreak primarily involve one make/model of HCU? YES. While nontuberculous mycobacteria have been isolated from other types of HCUs, the specific M. chimaera cluster in this case involves Sorin 3T units.
Is the invasive, disseminated, high crude mortality form of the illness restricted to those patients with implants (e.g. valves, grafts)? YES. The life-threatening disseminated infection appears to require some prosthetic material to which the organism can adhere, protecting itself (via biofilm formation) from host defense. According to Dr. van Ingen, case finding in the Netherlands is now limited to those with implants, and does not include standard non-valve, non-implant CABG patients.
Is it possible to mount an effective, rapid national response to this urgent problem? YES. Slide 18 details the Dutch response, which involved discontinuing all non-urgent cardiac surgery until HCUs were placed outside of ORs (which was done within 48 hours). As we learned here when we did the same thing, it is amazing what you can accomplish when you are left with no other option.
Is opening up a Sorin 3T HCU a frightening experience? YES. Im sure Ill have nightmares about these water-stained, biofilm-befouled devices for a long time (see below for one image from Garvey, et al).
[https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nrOmoURm3NQ/VxA6HaCEksI/AAAAAAAABPk/fpT7TpyENfcB4jxnEW8LZ1_qKBzRIO7LQCKgB/s640/Screen%2BShot%2B2016-04-14%2Bat%2B7.32.56%2BPM.png]What are the implications?
HCUs are not safe to operate in an OR. The air exhausting from the HCU ventilation fan must be physically separated from the air in the OR, and the easiest way to do that is to remove them from the OR (and maintain the OR at positive pressure, of course).
Everyone using Sorin 3T HCUs should assume that they may have exposed patients to M. chimaera, until more is known about the details of the point-source. Contaminated units cannot be disinfected even with the more intensive protocols currently recommended. In addition, only a few labs are capable of properly performing NTM cultures of water samples, so negative water cultures are of limited value and could be falsely reassuring.
A much more active national patient and provider notification is needed. Our experience is similar to that of others: identified cases would never have been found had it not been for aggressive and active case-finding. There are undoubtedly others currently being treated with immunosuppression for sarcoidosis or some other granulomatous process of uncertain etiology who actually have undiagnosed disseminated M. chimaera disease.
Below I’ve pasted an epidemic curve, an underestimate as it involves only those cases reported to FDA from US (blue bars) and abroad (red). This outbreak isn’t over, not by a long shot, and the fact that there are still hospitals performing cardiac surgery with their Sorin 3T HCUs inside of the OR is extremely distressing.
[https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-C2f_g5YW_rM/VxA-j-6qAhI/AAAAAAAABP8/9EgqZ6WlqZcrrCfOjH_F-Bo3m34JiCndwCLcB/s640/Screen%2BShot%2B2016-04-14%2Bat%2B8.05.55%2BPM.png]You are subscribed to email updates from Controversies in Hospital Infection Prevention.
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29/04/2016 at 1:24 pm #73047Claire BoardmanParticipantAuthor:
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Hi Cath,
As per the ACIPC conference website you could contact:
Conference Managers
For all enquiries please contact the team at Conference Design:
mail@conferencedesign.com.au
+61 3 6231 2999They would be sure to know.
The abstract portal is open and working.
Regards,
ClaireClaire Boardman | Deputy Director, RHDAustralia
BAppSc, Grad Cert IC, CICP, MPH
M +61 418 956 110 | T +61 8 8946 8651 | claire.boardman @menzies.edu.au | http://www.rhdaustralia.org.au |
PO Box 41096, Casuarina NT 0811 | John Matthews Building (Bldg 58), Royal Darwin Hospital Campus, Rocklands Drive, Casuarina, NT
RHD Australia is an initiative based at Menzies School of Health Research and funded by the Australian Government Department of Health.In the spirit of respect, Menzies School of Health Research acknowledges the people and the Elders of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Nations who are the Traditional Owners of the land and seas of Australia.
From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Dr Cathryn Murphy
Sent: Friday, 29 April 2016 11:26 AM
To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Registration for ACIPC 2016Is anyone aware of when members will be able to register online for the conference. The website seems to not yet be ready?
Cathryn Murphy RN MPH PhD
Executive Director
Infection Control Plus Pty Ltd
PO Box 3079
Burleigh Town 4219
Queensland
AUSTRALIAE: Cath@infectioncontrolplus.com.au
Ph: +61 428 154154http://www.infectioncontrolplus.com.au
From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Glenys Harrington
Sent: Thursday, 28 April 2016 14:34 PM
To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
Subject: FW: Mycobacterium chimaera update: A must listen from ECCMIDDear All,
For those following the Mycobacterium chimaera heater-cooler units you may find some of the answers you need in the following blog from the Controversies in Hospital Infection Prevention below.
The link to the presentation by Dr. Jakko van Ingen at ECCMID is well worth looking at – see link below.
Regards
Glenys
Glenys Harrington
Consultant
Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)
PO Box 5202
Middle Park
Victoria, 3206
Australia
M: +61 404 816 434
infexion@ozemail.com.au
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Sent: 15 April, 2016 4:21 PM
To: infexion@ozemail.com.au
Subject: Controversies in Hospital Infection PreventionControversies in Hospital Infection Prevention
________________________________
Mycobacterium chimaera update: A must listen from ECCMID
Posted: 14 Apr 2016 06:33 PM PDT
[https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nSG7E3FIOUI/VxA6EVJ7aOI/AAAAAAAABPc/yxCsKjr02FI703yFHoldb2azHpKcIXGSQCLcB/s640/cover%2Bphoto%2Bfor%2Bblog.jpg]Weve posted several times about the horrible M. chimaera outbreak linked to heater-cooler units (HCUs) used during cardiac bypass surgery. As weve addressed the problem here at Iowa, weve become increasingly frustrated (and dumbfounded) at the lack of available information about the clinical and epidemiological features of the outbreak itself, and at the general lack of urgency about this ongoing and grave risk to patients.
Fortunately, Dr. Jakko van Ingen gave an excellent talk at ECCMID that answers several important questions weve had about this outbreak, confirming some of the things weve heard (in confidence, I assume for political or legal reasons) on various conference calls and email strings. I urge you to take 30 minutes of your time to listen to his talk, all the way to the end of the Q&A period.
Aside from being an extremely entertaining speaker, Jakko addresses several key questions, including:
Is this a clonal outbreak? YES. Slide 29 reports whole genome sequencing data that clusters the isolates from Sorin 3T units and infected patients (within just 2-3 SNPs), and further discussion (during Q&A session) confirms that isolates from other European countries are also in this cluster.
Were the HCUs already contaminated prior to being shipped to end users? YES. Listen carefully to the last question and answer.
Does this particular outbreak primarily involve one make/model of HCU? YES. While nontuberculous mycobacteria have been isolated from other types of HCUs, the specific M. chimaera cluster in this case involves Sorin 3T units.
Is the invasive, disseminated, high crude mortality form of the illness restricted to those patients with implants (e.g. valves, grafts)? YES. The life-threatening disseminated infection appears to require some prosthetic material to which the organism can adhere, protecting itself (via biofilm formation) from host defense. According to Dr. van Ingen, case finding in the Netherlands is now limited to those with implants, and does not include standard non-valve, non-implant CABG patients.
Is it possible to mount an effective, rapid national response to this urgent problem? YES. Slide 18 details the Dutch response, which involved discontinuing all non-urgent cardiac surgery until HCUs were placed outside of ORs (which was done within 48 hours). As we learned here when we did the same thing, it is amazing what you can accomplish when you are left with no other option.
Is opening up a Sorin 3T HCU a frightening experience? YES. Im sure Ill have nightmares about these water-stained, biofilm-befouled devices for a long time (see below for one image from Garvey, et al).
[https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nrOmoURm3NQ/VxA6HaCEksI/AAAAAAAABPk/fpT7TpyENfcB4jxnEW8LZ1_qKBzRIO7LQCKgB/s640/Screen%2BShot%2B2016-04-14%2Bat%2B7.32.56%2BPM.png]What are the implications?
HCUs are not safe to operate in an OR. The air exhausting from the HCU ventilation fan must be physically separated from the air in the OR, and the easiest way to do that is to remove them from the OR (and maintain the OR at positive pressure, of course).
Everyone using Sorin 3T HCUs should assume that they may have exposed patients to M. chimaera, until more is known about the details of the point-source. Contaminated units cannot be disinfected even with the more intensive protocols currently recommended. In addition, only a few labs are capable of properly performing NTM cultures of water samples, so negative water cultures are of limited value and could be falsely reassuring.
A much more active national patient and provider notification is needed. Our experience is similar to that of others: identified cases would never have been found had it not been for aggressive and active case-finding. There are undoubtedly others currently being treated with immunosuppression for sarcoidosis or some other granulomatous process of uncertain etiology who actually have undiagnosed disseminated M. chimaera disease.
Below I’ve pasted an epidemic curve, an underestimate as it involves only those cases reported to FDA from US (blue bars) and abroad (red). This outbreak isn’t over, not by a long shot, and the fact that there are still hospitals performing cardiac surgery with their Sorin 3T HCUs inside of the OR is extremely distressing.
[https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-C2f_g5YW_rM/VxA-j-6qAhI/AAAAAAAABP8/9EgqZ6WlqZcrrCfOjH_F-Bo3m34JiCndwCLcB/s640/Screen%2BShot%2B2016-04-14%2Bat%2B8.05.55%2BPM.png]You are subscribed to email updates from Controversies in Hospital Infection Prevention.
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29/04/2016 at 1:51 pm #73050Wilson, Fiona (TIPCU)ParticipantAuthor:
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Hi, it will be ready in early May it is just being tested to make sure there are no glitches.
Fiona Wilson I Clinical Nurse Consultant
Public Health Services I Department of Health and Human Services
3/25Argyle St Hobart, GPO Box 125 Hobart 7001
Phone (03) 6166 0601| Mobile 0439 014 634 | Fax (03) 6233 0553
Prevention is better than cureFrom: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Claire Boardman
Sent: Friday, 29 April 2016 1:24 PM
To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
Subject: Re: Registration for ACIPC 2016Hi Cath,
As per the ACIPC conference website you could contact:
Conference Managers
For all enquiries please contact the team at Conference Design:
mail@conferencedesign.com.au
+61 3 6231 2999They would be sure to know.
The abstract portal is open and working.
Regards,
ClaireClaire Boardman | Deputy Director, RHDAustralia
BAppSc, Grad Cert IC, CICP, MPH
M +61 418 956 110 | T +61 8 8946 8651 | claire.boardman @menzies.edu.au | http://www.rhdaustralia.org.au |
PO Box 41096, Casuarina NT 0811 | John Matthews Building (Bldg 58), Royal Darwin Hospital Campus, Rocklands Drive, Casuarina, NT
RHD Australia is an initiative based at Menzies School of Health Research and funded by the Australian Government Department of Health.In the spirit of respect, Menzies School of Health Research acknowledges the people and the Elders of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Nations who are the Traditional Owners of the land and seas of Australia.
From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Dr Cathryn Murphy
Sent: Friday, 29 April 2016 11:26 AM
To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Registration for ACIPC 2016Is anyone aware of when members will be able to register online for the conference. The website seems to not yet be ready?
Cathryn Murphy RN MPH PhD
Executive Director
Infection Control Plus Pty Ltd
PO Box 3079
Burleigh Town 4219
Queensland
AUSTRALIAE: Cath@infectioncontrolplus.com.au
Ph: +61 428 154154http://www.infectioncontrolplus.com.au
From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Glenys Harrington
Sent: Thursday, 28 April 2016 14:34 PM
To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
Subject: FW: Mycobacterium chimaera update: A must listen from ECCMIDDear All,
For those following the Mycobacterium chimaera heater-cooler units you may find some of the answers you need in the following blog from the Controversies in Hospital Infection Prevention below.
The link to the presentation by Dr. Jakko van Ingen at ECCMID is well worth looking at – see link below.
Regards
Glenys
Glenys Harrington
Consultant
Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)
PO Box 5202
Middle Park
Victoria, 3206
Australia
M: +61 404 816 434
infexion@ozemail.com.au
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Sent: 15 April, 2016 4:21 PM
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Subject: Controversies in Hospital Infection PreventionControversies in Hospital Infection Prevention
________________________________
Mycobacterium chimaera update: A must listen from ECCMID
Posted: 14 Apr 2016 06:33 PM PDT
[Image removed by sender.]Weve posted several times about the horrible M. chimaera outbreak linked to heater-cooler units (HCUs) used during cardiac bypass surgery. As weve addressed the problem here at Iowa, weve become increasingly frustrated (and dumbfounded) at the lack of available information about the clinical and epidemiological features of the outbreak itself, and at the general lack of urgency about this ongoing and grave risk to patients.
Fortunately, Dr. Jakko van Ingen gave an excellent talk at ECCMID that answers several important questions weve had about this outbreak, confirming some of the things weve heard (in confidence, I assume for political or legal reasons) on various conference calls and email strings. I urge you to take 30 minutes of your time to listen to his talk, all the way to the end of the Q&A period.
Aside from being an extremely entertaining speaker, Jakko addresses several key questions, including:
Is this a clonal outbreak? YES. Slide 29 reports whole genome sequencing data that clusters the isolates from Sorin 3T units and infected patients (within just 2-3 SNPs), and further discussion (during Q&A session) confirms that isolates from other European countries are also in this cluster.
Were the HCUs already contaminated prior to being shipped to end users? YES. Listen carefully to the last question and answer.
Does this particular outbreak primarily involve one make/model of HCU? YES. While nontuberculous mycobacteria have been isolated from other types of HCUs, the specific M. chimaera cluster in this case involves Sorin 3T units.
Is the invasive, disseminated, high crude mortality form of the illness restricted to those patients with implants (e.g. valves, grafts)? YES. The life-threatening disseminated infection appears to require some prosthetic material to which the organism can adhere, protecting itself (via biofilm formation) from host defense. According to Dr. van Ingen, case finding in the Netherlands is now limited to those with implants, and does not include standard non-valve, non-implant CABG patients.
Is it possible to mount an effective, rapid national response to this urgent problem? YES. Slide 18 details the Dutch response, which involved discontinuing all non-urgent cardiac surgery until HCUs were placed outside of ORs (which was done within 48 hours). As we learned here when we did the same thing, it is amazing what you can accomplish when you are left with no other option.
Is opening up a Sorin 3T HCU a frightening experience? YES. Im sure Ill have nightmares about these water-stained, biofilm-befouled devices for a long time (see below for one image from Garvey, et al).
[Image removed by sender.]What are the implications?
HCUs are not safe to operate in an OR. The air exhausting from the HCU ventilation fan must be physically separated from the air in the OR, and the easiest way to do that is to remove them from the OR (and maintain the OR at positive pressure, of course).
Everyone using Sorin 3T HCUs should assume that they may have exposed patients to M. chimaera, until more is known about the details of the point-source. Contaminated units cannot be disinfected even with the more intensive protocols currently recommended. In addition, only a few labs are capable of properly performing NTM cultures of water samples, so negative water cultures are of limited value and could be falsely reassuring.
A much more active national patient and provider notification is needed. Our experience is similar to that of others: identified cases would never have been found had it not been for aggressive and active case-finding. There are undoubtedly others currently being treated with immunosuppression for sarcoidosis or some other granulomatous process of uncertain etiology who actually have undiagnosed disseminated M. chimaera disease.
Below I’ve pasted an epidemic curve, an underestimate as it involves only those cases reported to FDA from US (blue bars) and abroad (red). This outbreak isn’t over, not by a long shot, and the fact that there are still hospitals performing cardiac surgery with their Sorin 3T HCUs inside of the OR is extremely distressing.
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