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16/03/2010 at 11:44 am #68223Wishart, MichaelParticipant
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[Posted on behalf of Jenny McCarthy – Moderator]
Hi Michael
If this is the same product we use in the OR here (a video laryngoscope)
the sheath is actually the laryngoscope blade. It is made of hard
plastic and I would imagine almost impossible to perforate during use.
The company recommend washing the reusable handle in detergent and than
wiping over with 70% alcohol. As the OR manager and the infection
control coordinator I was happy with this.
Jenny McCarthy
OR Manager/IC Coordinator
Maryvale Private Hospital
Morwell—–Original Message—–
Of Wilson, Fiona L (Infection Control)Dear Michael, it sounds like a sheath to me (main definition of sheath
is a protective covering) and the national guidelines do make it clear
that sheaths are not a substitute for high level disinfection or
sterilisation of semi-critical items (bit like gloves and hand hygiene
really). I would be recommending that the scope is
disinfected/sterilised between patients (whether a sheath was in place
or not).
I am really not sure why sheaths are used at all – if the scopes are
reprocessed between patients, why put a sheath on them?
I would be interested in what the ‘hard plastic disposable cover’ is for
and why it is not considered to be a ‘sheath’.
Also – it may be approved for use by TGA but they would not be saying it
was s substitute for appropriate reprocessing – just that it is
approved for use to cover the scope.Fiona Wilson
Manager, Infection Control
Western Health
email: fiona.wilson@wh.org.au—–Original Message—–
Of Wishart, MichaelI am perplexed by a product I have just looked at. It is a video
laryngoscope which has a sterile, disposable hard plastic cover which is
placed over a flexible fibreoptic component and then placed into the
oral cavity for tracheal intubation. Once used on a patient, the hard
plastic cover is disposed of and the manufacturer’s instructions state
the flexible fibreoptic component can be wiped over with 70% alcohol to
decontaminate it.My understanding of the current national infection control guidelines is
that fibreoptic endoscopes which are covered by sheaths still require
high level disinfection of the non-disposable component that enters a
body cavity. The supplier debated with me that this hard plastic
disposable cover is not a sheath, as it is not likely to be perforated
during normal use. TGA must agree with them as the product is fully
approved for clinical use by TGA. Most users must agree as apparently
this product has been well accepted, mainly in emergency centres and
emergency vehicles.This made me ask the question: what is a sheath? I do agree that the
hard plastic cover of this product does look like it would resist
perforation in normal use, but at what point does a sheath not become a
sheath? Does this mean that if an ENT endoscope manufacturer comes up
with a hard wearing disposable cover it would not be considered a sheath
for the purpose of our national infection control guidelines?I would welcome some discussion on this topic to help settle my
perplexion.Thanks
MichaelMichael Wishart | GPH – Infection Control Coordinator
GPH – Quality & Safety Unit (Infection Control) | Greenslopes Private
Hospital
Newdegate Street, Greenslopes QLD 4120
t: 07 3394 7919 | f: 07 3394 7985
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You can unsubscribe from this list be sending ‘signoff aicalist’ (without the quotes) to listserv@aicalist.org.au17/03/2010 at 11:35 am #68224The hard plastic cover is still regarded as a sheath. This entire device
( once the sheath is discarded )requires high level disinfection as a
minimum as per the national guidelines/ Spalding device classifications.
The actual device manufacturers reprocessing instructions must be
reviewed during the product trial phase by infection/ risk management
input to ensure they are appropriate prior to use.
At my hospital this or a similar devices go through CSD and are
reprocessed using Sterrad as per the manufacturers instructions.Regards
Lisa Ryan
Infection Control / RTW Coordinator
Calvary North Adelaide Hospital
89 Strangways tce
North Adelaide, 5006
ph;08 82399276
pager; 08 82399100 no 476
email; lryan@calvarysa.com.au—–Original Message—–
Behalf Of Wishart, Michael[Posted on behalf of Jenny McCarthy – Moderator]
Hi Michael
If this is the same product we use in the OR here (a video laryngoscope)
the sheath is actually the laryngoscope blade. It is made of hard
plastic and I would imagine almost impossible to perforate during use.
The company recommend washing the reusable handle in detergent and than
wiping over with 70% alcohol. As the OR manager and the infection
control coordinator I was happy with this.
Jenny McCarthy
OR Manager/IC Coordinator
Maryvale Private Hospital
Morwell—–Original Message—–
Of Wilson, Fiona L (Infection Control)Dear Michael, it sounds like a sheath to me (main definition of sheath
is a protective covering) and the national guidelines do make it clear
that sheaths are not a substitute for high level disinfection or
sterilisation of semi-critical items (bit like gloves and hand hygiene
really). I would be recommending that the scope is
disinfected/sterilised between patients (whether a sheath was in place
or not).
I am really not sure why sheaths are used at all – if the scopes are
reprocessed between patients, why put a sheath on them?
I would be interested in what the ‘hard plastic disposable cover’ is for
and why it is not considered to be a ‘sheath’.
Also – it may be approved for use by TGA but they would not be saying it
was s substitute for appropriate reprocessing – just that it is
approved for use to cover the scope.Fiona Wilson
Manager, Infection Control
Western Health
email: fiona.wilson@wh.org.au—–Original Message—–
Of Wishart, MichaelI am perplexed by a product I have just looked at. It is a video
laryngoscope which has a sterile, disposable hard plastic cover which is
placed over a flexible fibreoptic component and then placed into the
oral cavity for tracheal intubation. Once used on a patient, the hard
plastic cover is disposed of and the manufacturer’s instructions state
the flexible fibreoptic component can be wiped over with 70% alcohol to
decontaminate it.My understanding of the current national infection control guidelines is
that fibreoptic endoscopes which are covered by sheaths still require
high level disinfection of the non-disposable component that enters a
body cavity. The supplier debated with me that this hard plastic
disposable cover is not a sheath, as it is not likely to be perforated
during normal use. TGA must agree with them as the product is fully
approved for clinical use by TGA. Most users must agree as apparently
this product has been well accepted, mainly in emergency centres and
emergency vehicles.This made me ask the question: what is a sheath? I do agree that the
hard plastic cover of this product does look like it would resist
perforation in normal use, but at what point does a sheath not become a
sheath? Does this mean that if an ENT endoscope manufacturer comes up
with a hard wearing disposable cover it would not be considered a sheath
for the purpose of our national infection control guidelines?I would welcome some discussion on this topic to help settle my
perplexion.Thanks
MichaelMichael Wishart | GPH – Infection Control Coordinator
GPH – Quality & Safety Unit (Infection Control) | Greenslopes Private
Hospital
Newdegate Street, Greenslopes QLD 4120
t: 07 3394 7919 | f: 07 3394 7985
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