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    Hi all,
    not sure what that rationale is if a person has not been fit tested? Studies have shown that a poorly fitted P2 mask gives about as much protection as a surgical mask. Given that

    the current trends for Men favour beards no seal achievable with the vast majority of beard types

    many people do not even wear surgical masks correctly,

    many already use masks beyond their instructions for use i.e. reusing them

    lay people are likely to not be applying then correctly let alone removing without contaminating themselves

    I think that P2 masks for the general public probably give more of a false sense of security rather than any major improvement on protection. And may make supplies for healthcare more scarce?

    Kind regards,
    Kelly
    I acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which we work and live, and respect their ongoing custodianship of the land. I pay respect to Aboriginal people, and Elders past and present.

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Brian Moore
    Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2022 4:27 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Query regarding use of N95 mask in non medical industry

    I would think that if an individual wishes to self protect, and can afford the cost of several N95 masks each day, go for it. Any worker who is required by their employment to have face to face contact with clients be they health workers or bank customer service should be supported to use N95 masks offer greater protection than say a surgical mask
    Brain Moore

    On Tue, 11 Jan. 2022, 10:17 am Terri Goldstein, <terri.birger@winc.com.au> wrote:
    Hi all

    I have a query regarding the use of N95 masks in a non-medical setting i.e. professional services such as banking staff and retails shops etc?

    Is there currently any Government directive around use of N95 masks in non-health settings? I am trying to ascertain this info as I understand these are difficult to source? I understand the need for hospitals, aged care etc.

    Thanks
    Terri

    Terri Goldstein
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    #79255
    marjenes@OPTUSNET.COM.AU Subject: Re: Query regarding use of N95 mask in non-medical industry In-Reply-To:
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    marjenes@OPTUSNET.COM.AU Subject: Re: Query regarding use of N95 mask in non-medical industry In-Reply-To:

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    Dear colleagues,

    To support Kelly further, I would add

    1.Go back to pandemic rule 101 avoid the hazard. Ask is it essential to have f2f not even GPs are doing all f2f atm
    2.The highest risk of transmission right now is not customer to staff but staff to staff sharing breathing space for long period indoors probably with suboptimal fresh air changes
    3.PPE is the weakest precaution so going for a P2 even if it passes fit testing when ignoring 1 and 2 is still a high risk option

    And dont rely on daily RAT tests plus a P2 while still ignoring 1 and 2 Avoid the hazard first where possible which is each of us!.

    Regards,

    Margaret Jennings

    Marjen Education Services

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    Hi all,

    not sure what that rationale is if a person has not been fit tested? Studies have shown that a poorly fitted P2 mask gives about as much protection as a surgical mask. Given that

    *the current trends for Men favour beards no seal achievable with the vast majority of beard types
    *many people do not even wear surgical masks correctly,
    *many already use masks beyond their instructions for use i.e. reusing them
    *lay people are likely to not be applying then correctly let alone removing without contaminating themselves

    I think that P2 masks for the general public probably give more of a false sense of security rather than any major improvement on protection. And may make supplies for healthcare more scarce?

    Kind regards,

    Kelly

    I acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which we work and live, and respect their ongoing custodianship of the land. I pay respect to Aboriginal people, and Elders past and present.

    Kelly Barton

    COVID-19 Response/ Infection Prevention & Control Officer

    RN BHSc (Nursing). Grad Cert (Infection Control)(Advanced Acute Care). Nurse Immuniser. Cert IV T&A

    P Reduce, re-use, recycle. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.

    I would think that if an individual wishes to self protect, and can afford the cost of several N95 masks each day, go for it. Any worker who is required by their employment to have face to face contact with clients be they health workers or bank customer service should be supported to use N95 masks offer greater protection than say a surgical mask

    Brain Moore

    On Tue, 11 Jan. 2022, 10:17 am Terri Goldstein, <terri.birger@winc.com.au > wrote:

    Hi all

    I have a query regarding the use of N95 masks in a non-medical setting i.e. professional services such as banking staff and retails shops etc?

    Is there currently any Government directive around use of N95 masks in non-health settings? I am trying to ascertain this info as I understand these are difficult to source? I understand the need for hospitals, aged care etc.

    Thanks

    Terri

    Terri Goldstein

    Medical & Health Specialist

    Registered Nurse

    Winc Australia Pty Limited

    E. terri.goldstein@winc.com.au

    M. 0400 808 879

    163 ORiordan Street Mascot NSW 2020

    LockedBag

    winc.com.au

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