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31/10/2022 at 10:26 am #81495AnonymousInactive
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Good morning everyone
A few months ago, there was a conversation on here regarding expiration dates for isolation gowns and whether they can be used. I can’t remember the outcome of the conversation.We have a large supply from the Commonwealth stockpile that were very close to their expiration date at the time they were sent to us. Now there are some that are 4 months over the date.
Can they still be safely used in a covid or any other outbreak?
I appreciate any information that you can give me.
Regards
Karen Kemp OAM
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31/10/2022 at 2:09 pm #81511Hi Karen
If its sterile items you are talking about, then if they are stored correctly, ( designated storage area, correct storage shelving, restricted traffic, temp and humidity and air changes monitored etc) , then they should not expire, but packaging needs to be checked to ensure the item is not comprised.
Hope this assists you.
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________________________________Good morning everyone
A few months ago, there was a conversation on here regarding expiration dates for isolation gowns and whether they can be used. I cant remember the outcome of the conversation.
We have a large supply from the Commonwealth stockpile that were very close to their expiration date at the time they were sent to us. Now there are some that are 4 months over the date.
Can they still be safely used in a covid or any other outbreak?
I appreciate any information that you can give me.
Regards
Karen Kemp OAM
Infection Control and Staff Health CNC
[cid:logo_a4fe3091-450f-4d0e-b594-635f37aad37c.jpg]. .08 8080 1850
KKemp@sccbh.com.au
https://www.sccbh.com.au.
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02/11/2022 at 7:03 am #81499Sarah WhiteleyParticipantAuthor:
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Hi Karen
I had asked our LPHU the same question and was informed that providing they remain fit for purpose, we can use them.
I found it highly unusual for them to have expiration dates as opposed to packaging dates.
I am interested to see other IPC perspectives on this.Sarah
Sarah Gaines Hill
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Level 1, 117 Camberwell Road, Hawthorn East, VIC 3123Good morning everyone
A few months ago, there was a conversation on here regarding expiration dates for isolation gowns and whether they can be used. I can’t remember the outcome of the conversation.We have a large supply from the Commonwealth stockpile that were very close to their expiration date at the time they were sent to us. Now there are some that are 4 months over the date.
Can they still be safely used in a covid or any other outbreak?
I appreciate any information that you can give me.
Regards
Karen Kemp OAM
Infection Control and Staff Health CNC
[cid:logo_a4fe3091-450f-4d0e-b594-635f37aad37c.jpg].
.08 8080 1850
KKemp@sccbh.com.au
https://www.sccbh.com.au.
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02/11/2022 at 8:55 am #81500AnonymousInactiveAuthor:
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Hi Karen
I would recommend to contact the manufacturer of the gowns and seek their advice or alternatively contact the DOH as they supplied the gowns and see if they can contact their supplier.
I experienced the same issue with face shields supplied from the SA Health during a COVID-19 outbreak in 2020.
The manufacturer was local so I was able to easily contact them and they advised that their product if stored correctly would still be able to be used past the expiry date.
As with all PPE the user should undertake a risk assessment by inspecting the item of PPE prior to donning to ensure that it is fit for purpose e.g in the case of an isolation gown it does not have any tears/holes
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CatherineCatherine McGovern
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Hi Karen
I had asked our LPHU the same question and was informed that providing they remain fit for purpose, we can use them.
I found it highly unusual for them to have expiration dates as opposed to packaging dates.
I am interested to see other IPC perspectives on this.Sarah
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From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of Karen Kemp
Sent: Monday, 31 October 2022 10:26 AM
To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] expired isolation gownsGood morning everyone
A few months ago, there was a conversation on here regarding expiration dates for isolation gowns and whether they can be used. I cant remember the outcome of the conversation.We have a large supply from the Commonwealth stockpile that were very close to their expiration date at the time they were sent to us. Now there are some that are 4 months over the date.
Can they still be safely used in a covid or any other outbreak?
I appreciate any information that you can give me.
Regards
Karen Kemp OAM
Infection Control and Staff Health CNC[cid:logo_a4fe3091-450f-4d0e-b594-635f37aad37c.jpg].
.
08 8080 1850
KKemp@sccbh.com.au
https://www.sccbh.com.au.
.
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02/11/2022 at 8:56 am #81504Michael WishartParticipantAuthor:
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NSWI think we need to be careful when we make decisions about using stock that has passed a manufacturers expiry date. Products are often tested, eg in regard to deterioration in specific storage conditions, to see if the item will remain fit-for-purpose.
If we decide to use items that have passed manufacturer recommendations, we need to have some assurance that the items still remain fit-for-purpose. Otherwise we could find ourselves facing questions about why we allowed something if any concerns are raised, which can result in problems for an organisation.
Its not just about sterility concerns when thinking about expiry dates. Its very important that items remain fit-for-purpose, and continue to meet appropriate standards.
Cheers
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From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of Sarah Gaines Hill
Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2022 6:03 AM
To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] expired isolation gownsHi Karen
I had asked our LPHU the same question and was informed that providing they remain fit for purpose, we can use them.
I found it highly unusual for them to have expiration dates as opposed to packaging dates.
I am interested to see other IPC perspectives on this.Sarah
[BlueCross]
Sarah
Gaines Hill
Infection Prevention Manager
P: +61 3 9828 1705
|
M: +61 429 480 183
Wurundjeri Country
Level 1, 117 Camberwell Road,
Hawthorn East,
VIC
3123
[BlueCross]
From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of Karen Kemp
Sent: Monday, 31 October 2022 10:26 AM
To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] expired isolation gownsGood morning everyone
A few months ago, there was a conversation on here regarding expiration dates for isolation gowns and whether they can be used. I cant remember the outcome of the conversation.We have a large supply from the Commonwealth stockpile that were very close to their expiration date at the time they were sent to us. Now there are some that are 4 months over the date.
Can they still be safely used in a covid or any other outbreak?
I appreciate any information that you can give me.
Regards
Karen Kemp OAM
Infection Control and Staff Health CNC[cid:logo_a4fe3091-450f-4d0e-b594-635f37aad37c.jpg].
.
08 8080 1850
KKemp@sccbh.com.au
https://www.sccbh.com.au.
.
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07/11/2022 at 9:11 am #81513AnonymousInactiveAuthor:
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Hi, I suspect this is to the wrong email address. I will delete.
On Mon, 7 Nov 2022, 9:09 am Robyn Lawson, wrote:
> Hi Karen
>
> If its sterile items you are talking about, then if they are stored
> correctly, ( designated storage area, correct storage shelving, restricted
> traffic, temp and humidity and air changes monitored etc) , then they
> should not expire, but packaging needs to be checked to ensure the item is
> not comprised.
>
> Hope this assists you.
>
> Robyn Lawson
> OR Consulting
>
> PO Box 465 Dianella
> Western Australia
> roblily49@gmail.com
> 0408 871 624
>
>
>
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> *From:* ACIPC Infexion Connexion on behalf of
> Karen Kemp
> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2022 7:26:14 AM
> *To:* ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
> *Subject:* Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] expired isolation gowns
>
>
> Good morning everyone
>
> A few months ago, there was a conversation on here regarding expiration
> dates for isolation gowns and whether they can be used. I cant remember
> the outcome of the conversation.
>
>
>
> We have a large supply from the Commonwealth stockpile that were very
> close to their expiration date at the time they were sent to us. Now there
> are some that are 4 months over the date.
>
>
>
> Can they still be safely used in a covid or any other outbreak?
>
>
>
> I appreciate any information that you can give me.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
>
> *Karen Kemp OAM*
> Infection Control and Staff Health CNC
> . .
>
> 08 8080 1850
> KKemp@sccbh.com.au
> https://www.sccbh.com.au
>
> .
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