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    Good morning everyone
    A few months ago, there was a conversation on here regarding expiration dates for isolation gowns and whether they can be used. I can’t remember the outcome of the conversation.

    We have a large supply from the Commonwealth stockpile that were very close to their expiration date at the time they were sent to us. Now there are some that are 4 months over the date.

    Can they still be safely used in a covid or any other outbreak?

    I appreciate any information that you can give me.

    Regards

    Karen Kemp OAM
    Infection Control and Staff Health CNC
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    Robyn Lawson
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    Hi Karen

    If its sterile items you are talking about, then if they are stored correctly, ( designated storage area, correct storage shelving, restricted traffic, temp and humidity and air changes monitored etc) , then they should not expire, but packaging needs to be checked to ensure the item is not comprised.

    Hope this assists you.

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    Good morning everyone

    A few months ago, there was a conversation on here regarding expiration dates for isolation gowns and whether they can be used. I cant remember the outcome of the conversation.

    We have a large supply from the Commonwealth stockpile that were very close to their expiration date at the time they were sent to us. Now there are some that are 4 months over the date.

    Can they still be safely used in a covid or any other outbreak?

    I appreciate any information that you can give me.

    Regards

    Karen Kemp OAM
    Infection Control and Staff Health CNC
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    Sarah Whiteley
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    Hi Karen
    I had asked our LPHU the same question and was informed that providing they remain fit for purpose, we can use them.
    I found it highly unusual for them to have expiration dates as opposed to packaging dates.
    I am interested to see other IPC perspectives on this.

    Sarah

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    Good morning everyone
    A few months ago, there was a conversation on here regarding expiration dates for isolation gowns and whether they can be used. I can’t remember the outcome of the conversation.

    We have a large supply from the Commonwealth stockpile that were very close to their expiration date at the time they were sent to us. Now there are some that are 4 months over the date.

    Can they still be safely used in a covid or any other outbreak?

    I appreciate any information that you can give me.

    Regards

    Karen Kemp OAM
    Infection Control and Staff Health CNC
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    #81500
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    Hi Karen
    I would recommend to contact the manufacturer of the gowns and seek their advice or alternatively contact the DOH as they supplied the gowns and see if they can contact their supplier.
    I experienced the same issue with face shields supplied from the SA Health during a COVID-19 outbreak in 2020.
    The manufacturer was local so I was able to easily contact them and they advised that their product if stored correctly would still be able to be used past the expiry date.
    As with all PPE the user should undertake a risk assessment by inspecting the item of PPE prior to donning to ensure that it is fit for purpose e.g in the case of an isolation gown it does not have any tears/holes
    Kind regards
    Catherine

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of Sarah Gaines Hill
    Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2022 6:33 AM
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    Hi Karen
    I had asked our LPHU the same question and was informed that providing they remain fit for purpose, we can use them.
    I found it highly unusual for them to have expiration dates as opposed to packaging dates.
    I am interested to see other IPC perspectives on this.

    Sarah

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    Sarah

    Gaines Hill

    Infection Prevention Manager

    P: +61 3 9828 1705

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    Wurundjeri Country

    Level 1, 117 Camberwell Road,

    Hawthorn East,

    VIC

    3123

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of Karen Kemp
    Sent: Monday, 31 October 2022 10:26 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] expired isolation gowns

    Good morning everyone
    A few months ago, there was a conversation on here regarding expiration dates for isolation gowns and whether they can be used. I cant remember the outcome of the conversation.

    We have a large supply from the Commonwealth stockpile that were very close to their expiration date at the time they were sent to us. Now there are some that are 4 months over the date.

    Can they still be safely used in a covid or any other outbreak?

    I appreciate any information that you can give me.

    Regards

    Karen Kemp OAM
    Infection Control and Staff Health CNC

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    #81504
    Michael Wishart
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    I think we need to be careful when we make decisions about using stock that has passed a manufacturers expiry date. Products are often tested, eg in regard to deterioration in specific storage conditions, to see if the item will remain fit-for-purpose.

    If we decide to use items that have passed manufacturer recommendations, we need to have some assurance that the items still remain fit-for-purpose. Otherwise we could find ourselves facing questions about why we allowed something if any concerns are raised, which can result in problems for an organisation.

    Its not just about sterility concerns when thinking about expiry dates. Its very important that items remain fit-for-purpose, and continue to meet appropriate standards.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of Sarah Gaines Hill
    Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2022 6:03 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] expired isolation gowns

    Hi Karen
    I had asked our LPHU the same question and was informed that providing they remain fit for purpose, we can use them.
    I found it highly unusual for them to have expiration dates as opposed to packaging dates.
    I am interested to see other IPC perspectives on this.

    Sarah

    [BlueCross]

    Sarah

    Gaines Hill

    Infection Prevention Manager

    P: +61 3 9828 1705

    |

    M: +61 429 480 183

    Wurundjeri Country

    Level 1, 117 Camberwell Road,

    Hawthorn East,

    VIC

    3123

    [BlueCross]

    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of Karen Kemp
    Sent: Monday, 31 October 2022 10:26 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] expired isolation gowns

    Good morning everyone
    A few months ago, there was a conversation on here regarding expiration dates for isolation gowns and whether they can be used. I cant remember the outcome of the conversation.

    We have a large supply from the Commonwealth stockpile that were very close to their expiration date at the time they were sent to us. Now there are some that are 4 months over the date.

    Can they still be safely used in a covid or any other outbreak?

    I appreciate any information that you can give me.

    Regards

    Karen Kemp OAM
    Infection Control and Staff Health CNC

    [cid:logo_a4fe3091-450f-4d0e-b594-635f37aad37c.jpg].

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    #81513
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    Hi, I suspect this is to the wrong email address. I will delete.

    On Mon, 7 Nov 2022, 9:09 am Robyn Lawson, wrote:

    > Hi Karen
    >
    > If its sterile items you are talking about, then if they are stored
    > correctly, ( designated storage area, correct storage shelving, restricted
    > traffic, temp and humidity and air changes monitored etc) , then they
    > should not expire, but packaging needs to be checked to ensure the item is
    > not comprised.
    >
    > Hope this assists you.
    >
    > Robyn Lawson
    > OR Consulting
    >
    > PO Box 465 Dianella
    > Western Australia
    > roblily49@gmail.com
    > 0408 871 624
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    > ——————————
    > *From:* ACIPC Infexion Connexion on behalf of
    > Karen Kemp
    > *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2022 7:26:14 AM
    > *To:* ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    > *Subject:* Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] expired isolation gowns
    >
    >
    > Good morning everyone
    >
    > A few months ago, there was a conversation on here regarding expiration
    > dates for isolation gowns and whether they can be used. I cant remember
    > the outcome of the conversation.
    >
    >
    >
    > We have a large supply from the Commonwealth stockpile that were very
    > close to their expiration date at the time they were sent to us. Now there
    > are some that are 4 months over the date.
    >
    >
    >
    > Can they still be safely used in a covid or any other outbreak?
    >
    >
    >
    > I appreciate any information that you can give me.
    >
    >
    >
    > Regards
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > *Karen Kemp OAM*
    > Infection Control and Staff Health CNC
    > . .
    >
    > 08 8080 1850
    > KKemp@sccbh.com.au
    > https://www.sccbh.com.au
    >
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