Home › Forums › Infexion Connexion › Re: Commonwealth advice regarding COVID-19, Interim recommendations for the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) during hospital care of people with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
- This topic has 1 reply, 2 voices, and was last updated 4 years, 5 months ago by
Maureen Canning.
-
AuthorPosts
-
28/02/2020 at 5:29 pm #76407
Glenys Harrington
ParticipantAuthor:
Glenys HarringtonPosition:
ConsultantOrganisation:
Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)State:
Thanks for the explanation Phil.
I will refer my enquiry to the Commonwealth via the email address suggested,
however it does seem to be a fairly cumbersome process in the setting of the
activation of the Australian Health Sector Emergency Response Plan (27/2)
and an emerging pandemic.Given our college representatives on this ICEAG group are not able to
comment I will re-phrase my query and request guidance from the ACIPC
College as the peak body for infection prevention and control in Australia.My query to the college is as follows:
*Does the college recommend performing hand hygiene on the following
occasions when removing PPE during droplet, contact and airborne precautions
which are recommended for Coronavirus?*after remove gown and gloves
*after removal of eye protection and
*after removal of maskIt will be of interest to the members that on reviewing the following
infection control guidelines there is no requirement to performing hand
hygiene on all of the above occasions when removing PPE during droplet,
contact and airborne precautions and/or when removing PPE for Coronavirus.*Australia – The Australian Guidelines for the Prevention and Control
of Infection in Healthcare were co-funded by the National Health and Medical
Research Council and Australian Commission on Safety and Quality in Health
Care, 2019.
*CDC guidelines – Interim Infection Prevention and Control
Recommendations for Patients with Confirmed Coronavirus Disease 2019
(COVID-19) or Persons Under Investigation for COVID-19 in Healthcare
Settings. Updated February 21, 2020https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/infection-control/control-recommen
dations.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-nc
ov%2Fhcp%2Finfection-control.html*WHO – Infection prevention and control during health care when novel
coronavirus (nCoV) infection is suspected, Interim guidance 25 January 2020https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/health-services-and-general-practitioners-corona
virus-disease-covid-19*Victoria Health and Human Services – how to take of your PPE
https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/health-services-and-general-practitioners-corona
virus-disease-covid-19Many ACIPC members including myself look forward to college guidance in
relation to this query.regards
Glenys
Glenys Harrington
Consultant
Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)
P.O. Box 6385
Melbourne
Australia, 3004
M: +61 404816434
Russo
For ACIPC members who have inquiries regarding advice posted on the
Commonwealth website regarding COVID-19.ACIPC is well represented on the ICEAG who provide advice to the
Commonwealth when requested. Recommendations are provided to the
Commonwealth and undergo several reviews by other expert bodies before they
are published. As such individual ICEAG members are not authorised to
respond directly to queries posted on Infexion Connexion.The Commonwealth welcomes and encourages all feedback and comments be sent
to Health.Ops@health.gov.au and also
recommend that you provide a meaningful subject line so it can be reviewed
quickly.Philip Russo PhD MClinEpid BN, FACIPC
ACIPC President
P +61 3 6281 9239
W
acipc.org.auA 228 Liverpool Street, Hobart TAS 7000, Australia
MESSAGES POSTED TO THIS LIST ARE SOLELY THE OPINION OF THE AUTHOR, AND DO
NOT REPRESENT THE OPINION OF ACIPC.The use of trade/product/commercial brand names through the list is
discouraged by ACIPC. If you wish to discuss specific reference to products
or services by brand or commercial names, please do this outside the list.Archive of all messages are available at http://aicalist.org.au/archives –
registration and login required.Replies to this message will be directed back to the list. To create a new
message send an email to acipclist@acipc.org.auTo send a message to the list administrator send an email to
admin@acipc.org.auYou can unsubscribe manually from this list by sending ‘signoff acipclist’
(without the quotes) to listserv@aicalist.org.auMESSAGES POSTED TO THIS LIST ARE SOLELY THE OPINION OF THE AUTHOR, AND DO NOT REPRESENT THE OPINION OF ACIPC.
The use of trade/product/commercial brand names through the list is discouraged by ACIPC. If you wish to discuss specific reference to products or services by brand or commercial names, please do this outside the list.
Archive of all messages are available at http://aicalist.org.au/archives – registration and login required.
Replies to this message will be directed back to the list. To create a new message send an email to acipclist@acipc.org.au
To send a message to the list administrator send an email to admin@acipc.org.au
You can unsubscribe manually from this list by sending ‘signoff acipclist’ (without the quotes) to listserv@aicalist.org.au
01/03/2020 at 12:24 pm #76413Hi Glenys, I think this has probably been a topic of robust discussion amongst many IC teams with differing views, so thank you for the necessary challenging conversations. Maybe it is time for a paradigm shift in our thinking and teaching of PPE.
The CDC interim recommendations include 2 examples of doffing PPE with the second being somewhat the one you are querying step wise. Both CDC examples have additional hand hygiene proviso between doffing steps with this statement at the bottom PERFORM HAND HYGIENE BETWEEN STEPS IF HANDS BECOME CONTAMINATED AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER REMOVING ALL PPE https://www.cdc.gov/hai/pdfs/ppe/ppe-sequence.pdf
The Australian guidelines only give the 1 (first) example. The question then should be what determines contamination assessment visible soiling or potential risk based on transmissibility of the organism of concern or in general for risk mitigation. Most of us observe poor standards of doffing routinely with cross contamination and we certainly see staff illnesses during gastro and influenza outbreaks linked to practice and cross contamination from doffing and the environment.I was taught the CDC example 2 PPE doffing version and have taught that way for a number of years so as to avoid any accidental cross contamination, especially to face. In my last position, we probably added in an additional step of removing the gloves, performing hand hygiene before then removing the gown during Ebola given the high risk to HCWs. We long term taught this approach routinely especially in gastro or influenza outbreaks to protect staff. Given all of the resource investment in upgrading the PPE training then, it had become normal practice to do this approach sequentially with the additional hand hygiene moments. That way the HCW can be better prepared for any escalation of risk in future preparedness plans. I know other organisations are doing this approach as well having seen some of their COVID-19 guidelines. The Commonwealths interim PPE recommendations for consideration for PAPR for ICU staff that spend more than an hour with a patient does raise this essentially to Biological PPE that was used for EVD and the additional risk of cross transmission with doffing from the PAPR hoods and power packs plus suits if used.
If a health care professional is required to remain in the patients room continuously for a long period (e.g. more than one hour) because of the need to perform multiple procedures, the use of a powered air purifying respirator (PAPR) may be considered for additional comfort and visibility. A number of different types of relatively lightweight, comfortable PAPRs are now available and should be used according to the manufacturers instructions. Only PPE marked as reusable should be reused, following reprocessing according to the manufacturers instructions. All other PPE must be disposed of after use. ICU staff caring for patients with COVID-19 (or any other potentially serious infectious disease) should be trained in the correct use of PPE, including by an infection control professional. This also applies to the use of PAPRs, if required. Particular care should be taken on removal of PAPR, which is associated with a risk of contamination.
I see the CDC example 1 (and the Australian Guideline example used) as more the minimum OH&S risk mitigation standard for PPE doffing. In the current climate of heightened staff anxiety over COVID-19 this 2nd example is a simpler approach to teach with additional hand hygiene moments between each step and reinforce as best practice risk mitigation to protect staff so they feel safe. I think we also need to consider novice versus expert practice and teach accordingly.
From the JAMA publication Feb 24 the numbers of HCWs infected in Wuhan is of concern. Yes, there are likely multifactorial reasons; but I think it prudent we take a more cautionary approach with an impending pandemic, which may impact significantly on healthcare services delivery in responding to patient presentations especially coming into our peak winter demand period.
Health care personnel infected
3.8% (1716 of 44672)
63% in Wuhan (1080 of 1716)
14.8% cases classified as severe or critical (247 of 1668)
5 deathsGiven the current staff fear factor of looking after these patients and potential for high levels of absenteeism or sick leave in the workforce the more we can simplify the process for staff the more they are likely to come to work confidant in caring for these patients and stay safe. Social media with full body suits, PAPR etc makes staff feel they wont be protected with just droplet and contact TBP. Reinforcing basic doffing good practices with additional hand hygiene steps can help allay those concerns.
Part of my current seconded preparedness role is looking at a variety of training methods for staff as part of the organisations risk mitigation strategic plan of what we will do if we see large numbers of patients, changes to models of care, closure of services, staff redeployments and upskilling of nurses and clinicians from areas closed that perhaps havent used PPE in many years. We have initiated a train the trainer model this last week with all of our clinical educators and Liaison/Link nurses who will take over doing all of the refresher education to the clinical workforce across all disciplines. We have used glow germ and UV light to demonstrate ease of cross transmission in training sessions. It needs to be simplified under this model for consistency and ease of delivery. This then frees up the IP team to do their core work and support clinical areas. PSAs and environmental services will be critical during this so anything that simplifies and streamlines donning and doffing practices helps them and reassures them. Even skilled staff have expressed significant concerns out of the fear factor.
Informing, engaging and empowering our staff to feel safe at work is our number one goal at present to ensure they continue to come to work and are not infected whilst working. It will be interesting to hear future conversations and outcomes.
Kind regards
MaureenMaureen Canning
Infection Prevention CNC
Western Health COVID-19 Preparedness Team
Informing, Engaging and Empowering staffWestern Health COVID-19 microsite http://www.coronavirus.wh.org.au
Sunshine Hospital
Western Health
176 Furlong Rd St Albans Vic 3021Email. maureen.canning@wh.org.au
Web. http://www.westernhealth.org.auSent from Mail for Windows 10
Thanks for the explanation Phil.
I will refer my enquiry to the Commonwealth via the email address suggested, however it does seem to be a fairly cumbersome process in the setting of the activation of the Australian Health Sector Emergency Response Plan (27/2) and an emerging pandemic.
Given our college representatives on this ICEAG group are not able to comment I will re-phrase my query and request guidance from the ACIPC College as the peak body for infection prevention and control in Australia.
My query to the college is as follows:
Does the college recommend performing hand hygiene on the following occasions when removing PPE during droplet, contact and airborne precautions which are recommended for Coronavirus?
o after remove gown and gloves
o after removal of eye protection and
o after removal of maskIt will be of interest to the members that on reviewing the following infection control guidelines there is no requirement to performing hand hygiene on all of the above occasions when removing PPE during droplet, contact and airborne precautions and/or when removing PPE for Coronavirus.
Australia – The Australian Guidelines for the Prevention and Control of Infection in Healthcare were co-funded by the National Health and Medical Research Council and Australian Commission on Safety and Quality in Health Care, 2019.
CDC guidelines – Interim Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations for Patients with Confirmed Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) or Persons Under Investigation for COVID-19 in Healthcare Settings. Updated February 21, 2020
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/infection-control/control-recommendations.html?CDC_AA_refValhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fhcp%2Finfection-control.htmlWHO – Infection prevention and control during health care when novel coronavirus (nCoV) infection is suspected, Interim guidance 25 January 2020
https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/health-services-and-general-practitioners-coronavirus-disease-covid-19Victoria Health and Human Services how to take of your PPE
https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/health-services-and-general-practitioners-coronavirus-disease-covid-19Many ACIPC members including myself look forward to college guidance in relation to this query.
regards
Glenys
Glenys Harrington
Consultant
Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)
P.O. Box 6385
Melbourne
Australia, 3004
M: +61 404816434
E: infexion@ozemail.com.auFor ACIPC members who have inquiries regarding advice posted on theCommonwealth website regarding COVID-19.
ACIPC is well represented on theICEAG who provide advice to the Commonwealth when requested. Recommendations are provided to the Commonwealth and undergo several reviews by other expert bodies before they are published. As such individual ICEAG members are not authorised to respond directly to queries posted on Infexion Connexion.
The Commonwealth welcomes and encourages all feedback and comments be sent toHealth.Ops@health.gov.auand also recommend that you provide a meaningful subject line so it can be reviewed quickly.
Philip RussoPhD MClinEpid BN, FACIPC
ACIPC President
P+61 3 6281 9239
Eadmin@acipc.org.au
Wacipc.org.au
A228 Liverpool Street, Hobart TAS 7000, AustraliaMESSAGES POSTED TO THIS LIST ARE SOLELY THE OPINION OF THE AUTHOR, AND DO NOT REPRESENT THE OPINION OF ACIPC.
The use of trade/product/commercial brand names through the list is discouraged by ACIPC. If you wish to discuss specific reference to products or services by brand or commercial names, please do this outside the list.
Archive of all messages are available at http://aicalist.org.au/archives – registration and login required.
Replies to this message will be directed back to the list. To create a new message send an email to acipclist@acipc.org.au
To send a message to the list administrator send an email to admin@acipc.org.au
You can unsubscribe manually from this list by sending ‘signoff acipclist’ (without the quotes) to listserv@aicalist.org.au
MESSAGES POSTED TO THIS LIST ARE SOLELY THE OPINION OF THE AUTHOR, AND DO NOT REPRESENT THE OPINION OF ACIPC.
The use of trade/product/commercial brand names through the list is discouraged by ACIPC. If you wish to discuss specific reference to products or services by brand or commercial names, please do this outside the list.
Archive of all messages are available at http://aicalist.org.au/archives – registration and login required.
Replies to this message will be directed back to the list. To create a new message send an email to acipclist@acipc.org.au
To send a message to the list administrator send an email to admin@acipc.org.au
You can unsubscribe manually from this list by sending ‘signoff acipclist’ (without the quotes) to listserv@aicalist.org.auMESSAGES POSTED TO THIS LIST ARE SOLELY THE OPINION OF THE AUTHOR, AND DO NOT REPRESENT THE OPINION OF ACIPC.
The use of trade/product/commercial brand names through the list is discouraged by ACIPC. If you wish to discuss specific reference to products or services by brand or commercial names, please do this outside the list.
Archive of all messages are available at http://aicalist.org.au/archives – registration and login required.
Replies to this message will be directed back to the list. To create a new message send an email to acipclist@acipc.org.au
To send a message to the list administrator send an email to admin@acipc.org.au
You can unsubscribe manually from this list by sending ‘signoff acipclist’ (without the quotes) to listserv@aicalist.org.au
-
AuthorPosts
- The forum ‘Infexion Connexion’ is closed to new topics and replies.