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18/10/2019 at 10:38 am #75917
Hi Brainstrust,
have the dates re compliance to AS4187 recently changed??
Thanks,
EmmaEmma Trippe
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18/10/2019 at 10:56 am #75919Michael WishartParticipantAuthor:
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NSWHi Emma
This was posted on the list in August:
As you are aware, concerns have been raised with the Commission about the application of Standard Australia standard AS/NZS4187:2014 – Reprocessing of reusable medical devices in health service organisations.
The Commission agreed at the June meetings of the IJC and the Private Hospital Sector Committee to conduct a workshop to consider these issues and redraft the current Advisory AS18/07 in the interim.
Please be advised that an amended Advisory AS18/07 – Reprocessing of reusable medical devices in health service organisations was released today. It can be found on our website at the following link – https://www.safetyandquality.gov.au/publications-and-resources/resource-library/as1807-reprocessing-reusable-medical-devices-health-service-organisations
Please contact Margaret Banks on 02 9126 3684 if you have any queries in relation to this matter.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
KatherineKatherine Norden
Manager, Secretariat and Corporate Governance
Australian Commission on Safety and Quality in Health Care
GPO Box 5480 Sydney NSW 2001 | Level 5, 255 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000
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[2019 conference email signature]Hi Brainstrust,
have the dates re compliance to AS4187 recently changed??
Thanks,
EmmaEmma Trippe
Infection Control Consultant
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Calvary Riverina Hospital
Hardy Avenue Wagga Wagga NSW 2650
P: 02 6932 1628
E: Emma.Trippe@calvarycare.org.au
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18/10/2019 at 11:28 am #75921Morris, Sylvia (Health)ParticipantAuthor:
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Dear Emma
At this stage facilities should still be working towards overall compliance by 2021. The most critical aspect is having a gap analysis and knowing here a facility sits and having a detailed Action Plans that show planned progress.
However as Michael Wishart has pointed out the Australian Commission on Health Care Standards recently held a meeting in September 2019 as there is considerable angst in some facilities with the cost and requirement for RO water and testing and infrastructure cost to facilitate pass through equipment especially in remote facilities that risk having to close if non-compliant. An advisory was sent out that in the short term accreditation would be based on the 2003 version (identified by Michael Wishart). The 2003 version recommended having good quality water for rinsing RMDs and testing but did not specify RO water as an option or require endotoxin testing. The situation is even more complicated by the fact that AS/NZS4187 is being reviewed to incorporate AS/NZS4815 and this will be challenging for office based and dental facilities, so we are not quite sure of what is coming. .
There will be an updated Advisory hopefully before the end of the year.
My take on the proceedings of the meeting however it could change so not endorsed yet is:
Most facilities are required to have completed a gap analysis and documented an action plan. (Most facilities have done this)
It is possible there may be some ability for facilities to hold off big dollar tasks such as installation of RO water and infrastructure change over until they have to upgrade equipment. If a washer is working well a risk assessment would be required in relation to ensuring instruments are not being damaged or patients are not at risk. It is unlikely a washer could be purchased now without requiring good quality water and this would trigger the need for RO installation and pass through structure.
However all the governance issues such as having adequate policy and procedures, quality management processes, clearly defined reprocessing procedures and knowledge of the equipment and chemicals in use, validating processes would still need to be complied with by 2021.
Best wishes
Sylvia
Sylvia Morris
Sterilising and Reusable Medical Device Reprocessing State Coordinator
Infection Control Service
Health Regulation and Protection
Department for Health and Wellbeing/Government of South Australia
Level 3 Citi Centre 11 Hindmarsh Square Adelaide SA 5000HCW infection prevention: http://www.sahealth.sa.gov.au/infectionprevention
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Hi Brainstrust,
have the dates re compliance to AS4187 recently changed??
Thanks,
EmmaEmma Trippe
Infection Control Consultant
[cid:image001.png@01D585A0.1CDB66E0]
Calvary Riverina Hospital
Hardy Avenue Wagga Wagga NSW 2650
P: 02 6932 1628
E: Emma.Trippe@calvarycare.org.au
http://www.calvary-wagga.com.auHospitality | Healing | Stewardship | Respect
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18/10/2019 at 1:02 pm #75923Thanks so much Michael, I did read that earlier but I’ve recently heard the date has been pushed back to 2025 re CSSD compliance re AS4187 ?? Is there any notation describing this??
Thanks again , EmmaEmma Trippe
Infection Control Consultant
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Calvary Riverina Hospital
Hardy Avenue Wagga Wagga NSW 2650
P: 02 6932 1628
E: Emma.Trippe@calvarycare.org.au
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http://www.calvarycare.org.au.Hi Emma
This was posted on the list in August:
As you are aware, concerns have been raised with the Commission about the application of Standard Australia standard AS/NZS4187:2014 – Reprocessing of reusable medical devices in health service organisations.
The Commission agreed at the June meetings of the IJC and the Private Hospital Sector Committee to conduct a workshop to consider these issues and redraft the current Advisory AS18/07 in the interim.
Please be advised that an amended Advisory AS18/07 – Reprocessing of reusable medical devices in health service organisations was released today. It can be found on our website at the following link – https://www.safetyandquality.gov.au/publications-and-resources/resource-library/as1807-reprocessing-reusable-medical-devices-health-service-organisations
Please contact Margaret Banks on 02 9126 3684 if you have any queries in relation to this matter.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
KatherineKatherine Norden
Manager, Secretariat and Corporate Governance
Australian Commission on Safety and Quality in Health Care
GPO Box 5480 Sydney NSW 2001 | Level 5, 255 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000
T (02) 9126 3532 | http://www.safetyandquality.gov.au
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MichaelMichael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E
St Vincent’s Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
E michael.wishart@svha.org.au |
W https://www.svphn.org.au[cid:image001.jpg@01D46C86.4CDB6090]
[2019 conference email signature]Hi Brainstrust,
have the dates re compliance to AS4187 recently changed??
Thanks,
EmmaEmma Trippe
Infection Control Consultant
[cid:image001.png@01D585A0.1CDB66E0]
Calvary Riverina Hospital
Hardy Avenue Wagga Wagga NSW 2650
P: 02 6932 1628
E: Emma.Trippe@calvarycare.org.au
http://www.calvary-wagga.com.auHospitality | Healing | Stewardship | Respect
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18/10/2019 at 5:11 pm #75927AnonymousInactiveAuthor:
AnonymousOrganisation:
State:
Hi Emma,
This NSQHS Advisory may be what you are referring to
https://www.safetyandquality.gov.au/sites/default/files/2019-08/advisory_as1807_reprocessing_of_reusable_medical_devices_in_health_service_organisations_aug_2019.pdf
Cheers,Lesley Lewis
Regional Infection Control Consultant | HRICRCS
Lesley.Lewis@nhw.org.auHi Brainstrust,
have the dates re compliance to AS4187 recently changed??
Thanks,
EmmaEmma Trippe
Infection Control Consultant
[cid:image001.png@01D585A0.1CDB66E0]
Calvary Riverina Hospital
Hardy Avenue Wagga Wagga NSW 2650
P: 02 6932 1628
E: Emma.Trippe@calvarycare.org.au
http://www.calvary-wagga.com.auHospitality | Healing | Stewardship | Respect
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