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19/02/2016 at 8:22 am #72772
Hi Jenny
I asked this question of my CSSD manager, who was a SRACA representative on the committee for this Standard. His reply is below. I believe you would be best to refer to the ISO / BN guidances for a fuller picture.
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart
Infection Control Coordinator
Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
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________________________________Hi Michael,
The section 7.2.3.1 refers to water quality for supply purposes for washers and sterilizer feeds. Not drinking water.
There are tables in Section 7 that have been extracted and referenced to both ISO and BN standards for these purposes.One must remember that the definition of potable water can be interpreted by Local Councils and in some places in Qld, the local potable water is illegal to be given to livestock as it is classified as too high in various chemicals and compounds. Similarly by law, Public utilities do not report and will not disclose contaminants and only have to disclose if the water when it leaves there pump houses is potable.
The water quality spoken about is for technical terms and not in regards to the necessary bacterial contamination. It is referenced to the specifics on what the water is to be used for that defines the quality of the water required. Picking a phrase out of the standards without the referencing is always going to be a debatable item with anyone having interpreted it differently.
What are your thoughts
Regards
David L McNamara
CSSD Manager
Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
p 07 3326 3904 | f 07 3326 3907
a 627 Rode Road, Chermside Q 4032
e david.mcnamara@svha.org.au
wwww.holyspiritnorthside.org.auAny comments?
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart
Infection Control Coordinator
Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032
t: (07) 3326 3068 | f: (07) 3326 3523
e: Michael.Wishart@hsn.org.au
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7.2.3.1 says if local water is not of recognized suitable quality then tests will be conducted .
Local water for most is our drinking water. We have been on the water boards water quality site and all but the endotoxins is reported and we have requested if this information is available for our use (awaiting a reply)
How are people testing their water??Jennifer Benjamin
Infection Control Consulant
Melbourne Pathology
M: 0402000590
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19/02/2016 at 11:16 am #72775Jennifer McCarthy
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Jennifer McCarthyPosition:
Infection Control CoordinatorOrganisation:
Maryvale Private HospitalState:
Hi all
The other issue we are having with testing the quality of water is the
need to test the “final water rinse” (Table 7.2)
My understanding is this refers to the final rinse in the instrument
washers cycle. Our particular washer (Miele) do not allow us to access
the rinse water – is this how others understand this requirement?
thanks
JennyKind regards,
Jenny McCarthy
Operating Room Manger/Infection Prevention and Control Coordinator
Maryvale Private Hospital
PO Box 348, Morwell, 3840
286 Maryvale Rd. Morwell, 3840
T +61 3 5132 1283 | F +61 3 5132 1281
E jenny@maryvaleph.com.au________________________________
Behalf Of Michael Wishart
Hi Jenny
I asked this question of my CSSD manager, who was a SRACA
representative on the committee for this Standard. His reply is below. I
believe you would be best to refer to the ISO / BN guidances for a
fuller picture.Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart
Infection Control Coordinator
Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032
t: (07) 3326 3068 | f: (07) 3326 3523
w:www.holyspiritnorthside.org.au
Please consider the environment before printing this email
________________________________
Hi Michael,
The section 7.2.3.1 refers to water quality for supply purposes for
washers and sterilizer feeds. Not drinking water.There are tables in Section 7 that have been extracted and referenced to
both ISO and BN standards for these purposes.One must remember that the definition of ‘potable’ water can be
interpreted by Local Councils and in some places in Qld, the local
‘potable’ water is illegal to be given to livestock as it is classified
as too high in various chemicals and compounds. Similarly by law, Public
utilities do not report and will not disclose contaminants and only have
to disclose if the water when it leaves there pump houses is ‘potable’.The water quality spoken about is for technical terms and not in regards
to the necessary bacterial contamination. It is referenced to the
specifics on what the water is to be used for that defines the ‘quality’
of the water required. Picking a phrase out of the standards without
the referencing is always going to be a debatable item with anyone
having interpreted it differently.What are your thoughts
Regards
David L McNamara
CSSD Manager
Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
p 07 3326 3904 | f 07 3326 3907
a 627 Rode Road, Chermside Q 4032
e david.mcnamara@svha.org.au
wwww.holyspiritnorthside.org.auAny comments?
Cheers
MichaelMichael Wishart
Infection Control Coordinator
Holy Spirit Northside Private Hospital
627 Rode Road, Chermside, Qld 4032
t: (07) 3326 3068 | f: (07) 3326 3523
w:www.holyspiritnorthside.org.au
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________________________________
Jennifer Benjamin [jennifer.benjamin@MPS.COM.AU]
7.2.3.1 says ” if local water is not of recognized suitable quality then
tests will be conducted “.Local water for most is our drinking water. We have been on the water
boards water quality site and all but the endotoxins is reported and we
have requested if this information is available for our use (awaiting a
reply)How are people testing their water??
Jennifer Benjamin
Infection Control Consulant
Melbourne PathologyM: 0402000590
Quality is in our DNA
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