Re: Alcohol Hand Gel and Gloves

[Lindy Ryan]

Dear Jo
I have come across this so often over the years that i find it is not
uncommon & i am no longer surprised that staff automatically think they
can use it this way … and they are often surprised when i tell them
that its a big No and that hand rub is only tried, tested and approved
for use on human skin…..not on nitrile or latex and that they can
actually place themselves at great risk by using it on their gloves as
the integrity of the gloves it not guar rented to remain intact and
safe with any ABHR product (as its not tested or approved for use on
gloves) so they are not protected.
I recently had who a very senior nurse announce at an education session
I was running on the 5 moments that they put on ABHR on their gloves
before doing any dressing etc just to ensure they were ‘sterilised’
properly…………..just to be sure…… and I have encountered many
levels of health care workers think this and that it saves their hands
(it is not only the junior staff …its senior staff as well!!)
so no you are not alone & given the frequency over the years now where
staff have felt comfortable enough to ask me or bring up themselves as
an observation (probably about 1 out of every 10 – 20 sessions I give)
that i now always include this as a ‘tid bit’ on it not being OK in
most of my IC or hand hygiene education sessions i give nowadays
….just to try to head of this practice which is quietly simmering out
there …still!! ??!!
Hopefully see you at the conference next week!!
cheers
Lindy

Lindy Ryan

Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Control Services, Nepean Hospital.
Nepean Blue Mountains Local Health District PO Box 63 Penrith NSW
2751Tel 02 4734 2228 | Fax 02 4734 2517 |
lindy.ryan@swahs.health.nsw.gov.au
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[mailto:Joe-Anne.Bendall@SESIAHS.HEALTH.NSW.GOV.AU]

Hi

Has anyone else noticed staff wearing gloves and then cleaning the
gloves with alcohol hand rub – rather than removing the gloves and
performing hand hygiene?

Thanks

Joe

Joe-anne Bendall

Infection Prevention and Control CNC

Sydney Hospital and Sydney Eye Hospital

8 Macquarie St

Sydney 2000

joeanne.bendall@sesiahs.health.nsw.gov.au

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[Anonymous]

Dear Jo

I like Lindy have seen this quite often over the past few years. Initially I
was shocked that staff had taken it upon themselves to think this practice
was ok, what part of gloves are disposable is not understood? I also have
taken to include this information in my education sessions – a big NO you
cannot use ABHR for this purpose.

Cheers

Teresa Lewis

Relieving ICP

Newcastle Private Hospital

Of Lindy Ryan

Dear Jo

I have come across this so often over the years that i find it is not
uncommon & i am no longer surprised that staff automatically think they can
use it this way … and they are often surprised when i tell them that its a
big No and that hand rub is only tried, tested and approved for use on human
skin…..not on nitrile or latex and that they can actually place themselves
at great risk by using it on their gloves as the integrity of the gloves it
not guar rented to remain intact and safe with any ABHR product (as its not
tested or approved for use on gloves) so they are not protected.

I recently had who a very senior nurse announce at an education session I
was running on the 5 moments that they put on ABHR on their gloves before
doing any dressing etc just to ensure they were ‘sterilised’
properly…………..just to be sure…… and I have encountered many
levels of health care workers think this and that it saves their hands (it
is not only the junior staff …its senior staff as well!!)

so no you are not alone & given the frequency over the years now where staff
have felt comfortable enough to ask me or bring up themselves as an
observation (probably about 1 out of every 10 – 20 sessions I give) that i
now always include this as a ‘tid bit’ on it not being OK in most of my IC
or hand hygiene education sessions i give nowadays ….just to try to head
of this practice which is quietly simmering out there …still!! ??!!

Hopefully see you at the conference next week!!

cheers

Lindy

Lindy Ryan

Clinical Nurse Consultant | Infection Control Services, Nepean Hospital.
Nepean Blue Mountains Local Health District PO Box 63 Penrith NSW 2751Tel 02
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Hi

Has anyone else noticed staff wearing gloves and then cleaning the gloves
with alcohol hand rub – rather than removing the gloves and performing hand
hygiene?

Thanks

Joe

Joe-anne Bendall

Infection Prevention and Control CNC

Sydney Hospital and Sydney Eye Hospital

8 Macquarie St

Sydney 2000

joeanne.bendall@sesiahs.health.nsw.gov.au

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