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    Michael Wishart
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    One of our leadership group, has directed this office to develop a tool for the HH auditors to collect the names of staff that do not adhere to correct HH moments. The staff names are then to be provided to the Nurse managers for the follow-up to be done by them. We have expressed our dismay at this tone of management and in a word we were dismissed with our concerns.

    This is in response to ongoing low HH compliance rates, and instead of supporting the program this will completely obliterate it and encourage incorrect data entry and we will lose the auditors.

    I am asking for some suggestions on how to manage this suggestion and also key suggestions how we can gain traction.

    I am at a loss for change in this facility because no matter what we have implemented it lacks sustained support and is ultimately ends up being used as a punitive tool .

    Concerned experienced Infection Prevention and Control Professional.

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    #76126
    Debra Lee
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    Hi there,

    I too was asked to do something similar.
    The approach my facility undertook was to conduct an ongoing Quality Improvement Activity – “modified audit” as an educational training program for the last 4 years.
    The intern group are allocated to a HH auditor for an hour and follow other teams, it usually takes 2 weeks to rotate through the interns. The focus is on Medical staff (and was initiated by the DMS in response to disappointing hand hygiene rates) and they are named in the modified tool. ALL teams are aware of the activity and the results are collated only by the Medical Education/DMS team and then privately discussed with any individuals whose performance is lower than benchmark. The generic results of Surgeons vs Medical vs Paeds etc. and Consultant vs Reg vs Interns are displayed during Grand Rounds.
    This has resulted in a lot of healthy competition between streams and a MARKED sustained improvement in compliance rates. It also gives the interns a really thorough understanding of WHEN and WHY hand hygiene moments are required.

    I would suggest that you approach your executive and suggest a targeted “Quality Improvement Activity” of short duration, rather than a systemic, ongoing, “name and shame” approach.

    I’m more than happy to share the presentation I delivered at the ACIPC conference in Melbourne if the question author wants to correspond with me directly.

    Debra Lee
    Clinical Nurse Consultant
    Infection Management and Prevention Service
    West Block – Ground floor
    Redcliffe Hospital
    Redcliffe, Qld 4020
    debra.lee@health.qld.gov.au
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    One of our leadership group, has directed this office to develop a tool for the HH auditors to collect the names of staff that do not adhere to correct HH moments. The staff names are then to be provided to the Nurse managers for the follow-up to be done by them. We have expressed our dismay at this tone of management and in a word we were dismissed with our concerns.

    This is in response to ongoing low HH compliance rates, and instead of supporting the program this will completely obliterate it and encourage incorrect data entry and we will lose the auditors.

    I am asking for some suggestions on how to manage this suggestion and also key suggestions how we can gain traction.

    I am at a loss for change in this facility because no matter what we have implemented it lacks sustained support and is ultimately ends up being used as a punitive tool .

    Concerned experienced Infection Prevention and Control Professional.

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    #76127
    Debra Lee
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    Debra Lee

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    Can I add these audits are not submitted to HHA (or NHHI) as the interns are not accredited auditors!

    Cheers,
    Deb

    (Make Prevention Your Intention)

    IMPS – Redcliffe
    P: (07) 3883 7300
    debra_lee@health.qld.gov.au

    Hi there,

    I too was asked to do something similar.
    The approach my facility undertook was to conduct an ongoing Quality Improvement Activity – “modified audit” as an educational training program for the last 4 years.
    The intern group are allocated to a HH auditor for an hour and follow other teams, it usually takes 2 weeks to rotate through the interns. The focus is on Medical staff (and was initiated by the DMS in response to disappointing hand hygiene rates) and they are named in the modified tool. ALL teams are aware of the activity and the results are collated only by the Medical Education/DMS team and then privately discussed with any individuals whose performance is lower than benchmark. The generic results of Surgeons vs Medical vs Paeds etc. and Consultant vs Reg vs Interns are displayed during Grand Rounds.
    This has resulted in a lot of healthy competition between streams and a MARKED sustained improvement in compliance rates. It also gives the interns a really thorough understanding of WHEN and WHY hand hygiene moments are required.

    I would suggest that you approach your executive and suggest a targeted “Quality Improvement Activity” of short duration, rather than a systemic, ongoing, “name and shame” approach.

    I’m more than happy to share the presentation I delivered at the ACIPC conference in Melbourne if the question author wants to correspond with me directly.

    Debra Lee
    Clinical Nurse Consultant
    Infection Management and Prevention Service
    West Block – Ground floor
    Redcliffe Hospital
    Redcliffe, Qld 4020
    debra.lee@health.qld.gov.au
    metronorth.health.qld.gov.au
    (Make Prevention Your Intention)
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    Metro North Hospital and Health Service
    [Description: Putting people first]

    [Posted on behalf of a member who prefers to remain anonymous, for obvious reasons – reply to the list and they will see the responses. If anyone would like to provide a response direct to the member can do so by emailing me directly at michael.wishart@svha.org.au.
    Thanks, Moderator]

    One of our leadership group, has directed this office to develop a tool for the HH auditors to collect the names of staff that do not adhere to correct HH moments. The staff names are then to be provided to the Nurse managers for the follow-up to be done by them. We have expressed our dismay at this tone of management and in a word we were dismissed with our concerns.

    This is in response to ongoing low HH compliance rates, and instead of supporting the program this will completely obliterate it and encourage incorrect data entry and we will lose the auditors.

    I am asking for some suggestions on how to manage this suggestion and also key suggestions how we can gain traction.

    I am at a loss for change in this facility because no matter what we have implemented it lacks sustained support and is ultimately ends up being used as a punitive tool .

    Concerned experienced Infection Prevention and Control Professional.

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    #76144
    Coralie Tyrrell
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    Author:
    Coralie Tyrrell

    Position:
    CNC Infection Control

    Organisation:
    West Gippsland Healthcare Group

    State:

    Our organization has continued to use the LOCAL Audit within the Audit program in parallel with our National schedule. When undertaking a “local” audit we will step in as appropriate and with discretion (rather than name and shame) immediately the issue has been identified. We will discuss the missed opportunity and perhaps troubleshoot the clinical practice issue at the time.
    These audits are not counted in our National data and allow us to give instant feed back to the individual when a missed opportunity has been observed. This has been well received across the range of health professional and as feedback is given in real time appears to have had an impact on compliance.
    Regards
    Coralie

    Coralie Tyrrell | Manager Infection Prevention & Control Monday-Thursday| P: 03 56230625 | E: coralie.tyrrell@wghg.com.au
    West Gippsland Healthcare Group | 41 Landsborough Street | Warragul Vic 3820 | http://www.wghg.com.au

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    [Posted on behalf of a member who prefers to remain anonymous, for obvious reasons – reply to the list and they will see the responses. If anyone would like to provide a response direct to the member can do so by emailing me directly at michael.wishart@svha.org.au.
    Thanks, Moderator]

    One of our leadership group, has directed this office to develop a tool for the HH auditors to collect the names of staff that do not adhere to correct HH moments. The staff names are then to be provided to the Nurse managers for the follow-up to be done by them. We have expressed our dismay at this tone of management and in a word we were dismissed with our concerns.

    This is in response to ongoing low HH compliance rates, and instead of supporting the program this will completely obliterate it and encourage incorrect data entry and we will lose the auditors.

    I am asking for some suggestions on how to manage this suggestion and also key suggestions how we can gain traction.

    I am at a loss for change in this facility because no matter what we have implemented it lacks sustained support and is ultimately ends up being used as a punitive tool .

    Concerned experienced Infection Prevention and Control Professional.

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    #76170
    Matthew Mason
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    Author:
    Matthew Mason

    Position:
    Lecturer

    Organisation:
    University of the Sunshine Coast

    State:
    QLD

    Hi All,
    Sorry to revive an oldish thread, I was on leave and pondering this while there.

    The National Audit data for period 2 2019 has overall compliance at 85.7%. This is an improvement from where we started and a lot of resources, locally and nationally, have been used to get to this point. While there are arguments as to the value for money this represents what this data and initiative does do is set an expectation for practice. This is internally at the local level, and externally both nationally (from government) and professionally (through health care worker registration standards).

    If a health care worker does not meet the standard of practice expected why shouldn’t they be called out on it? What Coralie presents below is a form of doing this. If that worker continues to not meet the standard required what are the next steps? If we consider hand hygiene important for patient safety why shouldn’t we “name and shame” those that continue to not meet these professional expectations by reporting them to their registering body?

    There are systematic barriers to hand hygiene so this reporting of individuals is not palatable. What are we doing to overcome these? Are we setting evidence based expectations (compliance rates) if we can’t overcome all obstacles to being compliant? Should these vary between settings, hospitals, wards etc.? At what point to we name and shame organisations for putting patients at risk for not responding requests to enable better hand hygiene?

    One of the criticisms of Infection Prevention is that we are often seen to enforce arbitrary and non-evidenced based policy and procedures (no water bottles for staff, you can have a therapy pony in ICU but not reusable theatre caps). I personally think that hand hygiene risks falling into that area. We know it is important but we are not really sure how important enough to set hard limits. We have a lot of compliance data but we can’t use that to really set a benchmark for practice because of systematic differences and barriers. This is why we can’t name and shame health care workers/organisations. If we were so sure that a repeatedly poorly compliant health care worker was putting patients at risk we would have to report them to their registering body, just like we would if we saw them risking patients by practising poorly in another way and not responding to other interventions.

    I certainly don’t have answers for this but given the importance placed on hand hygiene, and the resources used, I think we as a specialisation need to work on setting hard benchmarks that can be used to call out individuals/organisations. If we can’t do that then maybe we should be rethinking what we are doing with hand hygiene.

    Cheers Matt

    Lecturer
    School of Nursing, Midwifery & Paramedicine
    USC
    Ph +61 7 5456 5191
    mmason1@usc.edu.au

    Our organization has continued to use the LOCAL Audit within the Audit program in parallel with our National schedule. When undertaking a “local” audit we will step in as appropriate and with discretion (rather than name and shame) immediately the issue has been identified. We will discuss the missed opportunity and perhaps troubleshoot the clinical practice issue at the time.
    These audits are not counted in our National data and allow us to give instant feed back to the individual when a missed opportunity has been observed. This has been well received across the range of health professional and as feedback is given in real time appears to have had an impact on compliance.
    Regards
    Coralie

    Coralie Tyrrell | Manager Infection Prevention & Control Monday-Thursday| P: 03 56230625 | E: coralie.tyrrell@wghg.com.au
    West Gippsland Healthcare Group | 41 Landsborough Street | Warragul Vic 3820 | http://www.wghg.com.au

    ”WGHG strives to attract and retain a highly talented learning workforce that engages with a level of pride and passion in improving the health and wellbeing of its community”
    [cid:image001.jpg@01CEB51E.65D9EC30]
    WGHG is committed to achieving culturally safe health practices for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.
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    [Posted on behalf of a member who prefers to remain anonymous, for obvious reasons – reply to the list and they will see the responses. If anyone would like to provide a response direct to the member can do so by emailing me directly at michael.wishart@svha.org.au.
    Thanks, Moderator]

    One of our leadership group, has directed this office to develop a tool for the HH auditors to collect the names of staff that do not adhere to correct HH moments. The staff names are then to be provided to the Nurse managers for the follow-up to be done by them. We have expressed our dismay at this tone of management and in a word we were dismissed with our concerns.

    This is in response to ongoing low HH compliance rates, and instead of supporting the program this will completely obliterate it and encourage incorrect data entry and we will lose the auditors.

    I am asking for some suggestions on how to manage this suggestion and also key suggestions how we can gain traction.

    I am at a loss for change in this facility because no matter what we have implemented it lacks sustained support and is ultimately ends up being used as a punitive tool .

    Concerned experienced Infection Prevention and Control Professional.

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