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  • #77743
    robertsh@sath.org.au
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    Good afternoon everyone,

    Just enquiring in which waste bin (general or clinical) do staff put their PPE after being in a precautions room (MRSA, VRE, CDiff etc).

    Currently, we put all our PPE in to clinical waste.

    I cannot see a clear directive in the Guild line for Prevention and control of infection in healthcare.

    Do you place it in general waste or clinical waste?

    Thanks in advance
    Helen

    Helen Roberts
    Infection Control
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    #77744
    Thomson, Rachel EA (THS)
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    Hi Helen,

    You will need to comply with your local waste guidelines. In Tasmania waste from rooms as mentioned below are segregated into the normal waste streams, thus very little waste from our TBP rooms goes into clinical waste.

    Kind regards
    Rachel

    ..
    Rachel Thomson
    Nurse Unit Manager

    Infection Prevention & Control Unit
    Royal Hobart Hospital
    Tasmanian Health Organisation-South

    : 03 6166 7882/ 6166 8658

    Mobile: 0400 718 574
    Email: rachel.thomson@ths.tas.gov.au

    Level 4, H Block
    48 Liverpool Street
    Hobart, 7000

    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of Helen Roberts
    Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2021 2:34 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] PPE waste

    Good afternoon everyone,

    Just enquiring in which waste bin (general or clinical) do staff put their PPE after being in a precautions room (MRSA, VRE, CDiff etc).

    Currently, we put all our PPE in to clinical waste.

    I cannot see a clear directive in the Guild line for Prevention and control of infection in healthcare.

    Do you place it in general waste or clinical waste?

    Thanks in advance
    Helen
    Helen Roberts
    Infection Control
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    #77745
    Manager (Fitzgerald Aged Care Facility)
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    Hi Helen, I have been told its general waste unless visibly contaminated with something.

    However depending on who talk eg Accreditation auditors it can be clinical.

    Kind regards,

    | Anna Whitney | Executive Manager

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    Good afternoon everyone,

    Just enquiring in which waste bin (general or clinical) do staff put their PPE after being in a precautions room (MRSA, VRE, CDiff etc).

    Currently, we put all our PPE in to clinical waste.

    I cannot see a clear directive in the Guild line for Prevention and control of infection in healthcare.

    Do you place it in general waste or clinical waste?

    Thanks in advance

    Helen

    Helen Roberts

    Infection Control

    P:

    07 4646 3106

    |

    F:

    07 4633 7602

    E:

    robertsh@sath.org.au

    |

    W:

    http://www.sath.org.au

    PO Box 263, Toowoomba, QLD 4350

    280 North St, Toowoomba, QLD 4350

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    #77746
    Michelle Bibby
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    Michelle Bibby

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    Infection Prevention Australia

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    This is a really simple little waste segregation poster you may like to use

    regards

    Michelle Bibby

    Infection Prevention Australia

    0429071165

    michelle@infectionprevention.com.au

    http://www.infectionprevention.com.au

    Hi Helen, I have been told its general waste unless visibly contaminated with something.

    However depending on who talk eg Accreditation auditors it can be clinical.

    Kind regards,

    | Anna Whitney | Executive Manager

    | t. (02) 4577 2800 | m. 0406 574 042 | f. (02) 4577 2627

    | 1 Rum Corp Lane WINDSOR NSW 2756

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    Good afternoon everyone,

    Just enquiring in which waste bin (general or clinical) do staff put their PPE after being in a precautions room (MRSA, VRE, CDiff etc).

    Currently, we put all our PPE in to clinical waste.

    I cannot see a clear directive in the Guild line for Prevention and control of infection in healthcare.

    Do you place it in general waste or clinical waste?

    Thanks in advance

    Helen

    Helen Roberts

    Infection Control

    P:

    07 4646 3106

    |

    F:

    07 4633 7602

    E:

    robertsh@sath.org.au

    |

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    http://www.sath.org.au

    PO Box 263, Toowoomba, QLD 4350

    280 North St, Toowoomba, QLD 4350

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    #77748
    Vanessa Davis
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    Vanessa Davis

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    Hi,

    Based on multiple visits from various government departments, we have been advised that if there is a suspicion of PPE being contaminated with a communicable disease then it needs to go into clinical waste. One would think that if you are isolating because of a suspicion then that meets the criteria for disposal into clinical waste. However, this would depend on what state you are in, what document you read and who you speak with.

    Interested to hear others thoughts.

    Regards,

    Vanessa Watkins

    RN, IPC Lead – nearly (fingers crossed I pass!)

    Donwood Community Aged Care

    Croydon, Vic

    9845 8500

    Hi Helen, I have been told its general waste unless visibly contaminated with something.

    However depending on who talk eg Accreditation auditors it can be clinical.

    Kind regards,

    | Anna Whitney | Executive Manager

    | t. (02) 4577 2800 | m. 0406 574 042 | f. (02) 4577 2627

    | 1 Rum Corp Lane WINDSOR NSW 2756

    | w. http://www.fitzgeraldacf.com.au

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    Good afternoon everyone,

    Just enquiring in which waste bin (general or clinical) do staff put their PPE after being in a precautions room (MRSA, VRE, CDiff etc).

    Currently, we put all our PPE in to clinical waste.

    I cannot see a clear directive in the Guild line for Prevention and control of infection in healthcare.

    Do you place it in general waste or clinical waste?

    Thanks in advance

    Helen

    Helen Roberts

    Infection Control

    P:

    07 4646 3106

    |

    F:

    07 4633 7602

    E:

    robertsh@sath.org.au

    |

    W:

    http://www.sath.org.au

    PO Box 263, Toowoomba, QLD 4350

    280 North St, Toowoomba, QLD 4350

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    #77749
    Michael Wishart
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    Michael Wishart

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    Hi Helen

    All of the responses you have received thus far are correct for the settings in which they are applied. The important parameter is that you need to follow your local and state regulations in regard to waste segregation and disposal.

    In Queensland, this is governed by the Department of Environment and Science (state), as well as any specific regulations that have been published for local council waste disposal (if you use a local council waste disposal site). The state guidance document is: https://environment.des.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0029/89147/pr-gl-clinical-and-related-waste.pdf

    In this document it states this:
    Human body fluids such as saliva, mucus, pleural fluid, cerebrospinal fluid, pericardial fluid and any other fluid that is visibly contaminated with blood, and all body fluids generated from circumstances where there is potential for the presence of infectious agents, are included in this category. Urine, faeces and vomitus are not generally included as clinical waste, unless they originate from a person with a known infectious disease or are visibly contaminated with blood.

    In my facility, our Infection Control Committee has determined that ALL waste coming from a transmission-based precautions room will be treated as clinical waste. This decision was made in conjunction with our waste management contractor. It makes it very easy for all staff, at all levels, to identify what should be considered clinical waste when a patient is on precautions. Whist there is a known additional cost for the management of this waste (in comparison to general waste), it was considered reasonable to apply this to reduce the risk of incorrect disposal of potentially infectious material at the local council waste disposal site, which, if detected, has ramifications for both the health facility licencing and the licensing of the waste management contractor.

    So I would suggest your facility have a discussion with your waste contractor, and seek clarifications of any requirements for the site your general waste is being disposed at, and then have a facility level discussion about an agreed process of managing waste for transmission-based precautions rooms.

    Hope this helps.

    Cheers
    Michael

    Michael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E

    St Vincents Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
    M +61 448 954 282 | T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
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    [Stop the Flu before it stops you]

    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of Helen Roberts
    Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2021 1:34 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] PPE waste

    Good afternoon everyone,

    Just enquiring in which waste bin (general or clinical) do staff put their PPE after being in a precautions room (MRSA, VRE, CDiff etc).

    Currently, we put all our PPE in to clinical waste.

    I cannot see a clear directive in the Guild line for Prevention and control of infection in healthcare.

    Do you place it in general waste or clinical waste?

    Thanks in advance
    Helen
    Helen Roberts
    Infection Control
    P:
    07 4646 3106
    |
    F:
    07 4633 7602
    E:
    robertsh@sath.org.au
    |
    W:
    http://www.sath.org.au
    Post:
    PO Box 263, Toowoomba, QLD 4350
    Address:
    280 North St, Toowoomba, QLD 4350
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    #77751
    Katie Dwan
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    Katie Dwan

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    Hi Helen,

    We are the same as Michael etc.

    Any waste from a Transmission-based precautions room is treated as clinical waste.

    KT

    Katie Dwan | Infection Prevention & Control Co-ordinator
    St Vincents Private Hospital Toowoomba | 22-36 Scott Street TOOWOOMBA QLD 4350
    T +61 7 4690 4042
    E katie.dwan@svha.org.au

    [STANDARD 3_ PREVENTING AND CONTROLLING HEALTHCARE-ASSOCIATED INFECTIONS]

    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of Michael Wishart
    Sent: Wednesday, 24 February 2021 7:48 AM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] PPE waste

    Hi Helen

    All of the responses you have received thus far are correct for the settings in which they are applied. The important parameter is that you need to follow your local and state regulations in regard to waste segregation and disposal.

    In Queensland, this is governed by the Department of Environment and Science (state), as well as any specific regulations that have been published for local council waste disposal (if you use a local council waste disposal site). The state guidance document is: https://environment.des.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0029/89147/pr-gl-clinical-and-related-waste.pdf

    In this document it states this:
    Human body fluids such as saliva, mucus, pleural fluid, cerebrospinal fluid, pericardial fluid and any other fluid that is visibly contaminated with blood, and all body fluids generated from circumstances where there is potential for the presence of infectious agents, are included in this category. Urine, faeces and vomitus are not generally included as clinical waste, unless they originate from a person with a known infectious disease or are visibly contaminated with blood.

    In my facility, our Infection Control Committee has determined that ALL waste coming from a transmission-based precautions room will be treated as clinical waste. This decision was made in conjunction with our waste management contractor. It makes it very easy for all staff, at all levels, to identify what should be considered clinical waste when a patient is on precautions. Whist there is a known additional cost for the management of this waste (in comparison to general waste), it was considered reasonable to apply this to reduce the risk of incorrect disposal of potentially infectious material at the local council waste disposal site, which, if detected, has ramifications for both the health facility licencing and the licensing of the waste management contractor.

    So I would suggest your facility have a discussion with your waste contractor, and seek clarifications of any requirements for the site your general waste is being disposed at, and then have a facility level discussion about an agreed process of managing waste for transmission-based precautions rooms.

    Hope this helps.

    Cheers
    Michael

    Michael Wishart | Infection Control Coordinator, CICP-E

    St Vincents Private Hospital Northside | 627 Rode Road CHERMSIDE QLD 4032
    M +61 448 954 282 | T +61 7 3326 3068 | F +61 7 3607 2226
    E michael.wishart@svha.org.au |
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion <ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU> On Behalf Of Helen Roberts
    Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2021 1:34 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] PPE waste

    Good afternoon everyone,

    Just enquiring in which waste bin (general or clinical) do staff put their PPE after being in a precautions room (MRSA, VRE, CDiff etc).

    Currently, we put all our PPE in to clinical waste.

    I cannot see a clear directive in the Guild line for Prevention and control of infection in healthcare.

    Do you place it in general waste or clinical waste?

    Thanks in advance
    Helen
    Helen Roberts
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    Hi Helen,

    We put PPE from rooms with transmission based precautions into general waste unless they are visibly soiled and / or fit the definition of clinical waste.
    Most of our PPE from these patients goes into general waste.

    Clinical waste means any waste resulting from medical, nursing, dental, pharmaceutical, skin penetration or other related clinical activity, being waste that has the potential to cause injury, infection or offence, and includes waste containing any of the following:
    human tissue (other than hair, teeth and nails)
    bulk body fluids or blood
    visibly blood-stained body fluids, materials or equipment
    laboratory specimens or cultures
    animal tissue, carcasses or other waste from animals used for medical research. https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/environment/clinicalwaste/Pages/default.aspx

    Kind regards,

    Susan

    Susan Farrugia
    Infection Control Coordinator
    Arcadia Pittwater Private Hospital
    4 Daydream Street
    Warriewood NSW
    Infectioncontrol@arcadiapittwater.com.au

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion On Behalf Of Helen Roberts
    Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2021 2:34 PM
    To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
    Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] PPE waste

    Good afternoon everyone,

    Just enquiring in which waste bin (general or clinical) do staff put their PPE after being in a precautions room (MRSA, VRE, CDiff etc).

    Currently, we put all our PPE in to clinical waste.

    I cannot see a clear directive in the Guild line for Prevention and control of infection in healthcare.

    Do you place it in general waste or clinical waste?

    Thanks in advance
    Helen
    Helen Roberts
    Infection Control
    P:
    07 4646 3106
    |
    F:
    07 4633 7602
    E:
    robertsh@sath.org.au
    |
    W:
    http://www.sath.org.au
    Post:
    PO Box 263, Toowoomba, QLD 4350
    Address:
    280 North St, Toowoomba, QLD 4350
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