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    Denyer, Vicki
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    Hi All,

    Need some expert advice on the following please

    We are opening a new paediatric ward with a play area outside. ( the ward is situated on the 11th floor of a new building)

    I have just been informed that there will be 4 large pots area with appropriately 2080 litres of potting mixture within being placed in the outdoor area ( appropriately 2080 litres of potting mixture within)

    Is there is a NSW PD or other Ministry correspondence that states that we cannot have soil in an outdoor supervised area

    Thanks

    Vicki

    Vicki Denyer

    Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
    Lismore Base Hospital

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    Ruth Barratt
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    Hi Vicki,
    We would be hesitant about allowing potting mix indoors in our new paeds build as we have a high rate of Legionella from potting mix in this region. As it happens the wards didn’t want that type of play area. However I believe you can buy screened soil which has eliminated this type of infectious hazard.

    Cheers
    Ruth

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    Hi All,

    Need some expert advice on the following please

    We are opening a new paediatric ward with a play area outside. ( the ward is situated on the 11th floor of a new building)

    I have just been informed that there will be 4 large pots area with appropriately 2080 litres of potting mixture within being placed in the outdoor area ( appropriately 2080 litres of potting mixture within)

    Is there is a NSW PD or other Ministry correspondence that states that we cannot have soil in an outdoor supervised area

    Thanks

    Vicki

    Vicki Denyer

    Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
    Lismore Base Hospital

    Infection Prevention & Control is Everyone’s Business

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    Ryan, Lindy
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    Hello Vicky

    The NSW CEC 2016 interim IP&C practice hand book pg 59

    http://www.cec.health.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/318948/Interim-Infection-Prevent-and-Control-Handbook.pdf

    4.11.2 Flowers and plants
    For the vast majority of patients in hospitals and other healthcare facilities, fresh flowers or potted plants do not represent a risk of infection [110]. Cut flowers left standing in water and soil from plants and dried arrangements can be heavily contaminated with microorganisms that are pathogenic to immunocompromised patients, such as Aspergillus sp. [111]. While there is limited evidence that links the presence of these organisms to infection in these patients [110], it is strongly recommended that plants and dried or fresh flowers are not allowed in the hospital rooms of haematopoietic stem cell transplant recipients given the potential for severe infection in these patients [3, 112, 113].

    You may like to check the references attached to this statement to value add to your decision .
    Interestingly enough the literature reflected less on infection risk but more on allergenic pollens etc from plants as the risk

    Happy to be corrected is anyone else has anything more recant than this info

    Hoe this helpful

    Cheers

    Lindy

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    Hi Vicki,
    We would be hesitant about allowing potting mix indoors in our new paeds build as we have a high rate of Legionella from potting mix in this region. As it happens the wards didn’t want that type of play area. However I believe you can buy screened soil which has eliminated this type of infectious hazard.

    Cheers
    Ruth

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    Ruth Barratt RN, BSc, MAdvPrac (Hons)
    Clinical NurseSpecialist Infection Prevention and Control
    Community Liaison Infection Prevention
    *: ruth.barratt@cdhb.health.nz
    *: + 64 3 3640 083 or ext.80083
    [1098272744j4O36h]: 0275 263175
    Level 5, Riverside Building
    Christchurch Hospital | Private Bag 4710, Christchurch
    Clean Hands Save Lives!

    Hi All,

    Need some expert advice on the following please

    We are opening a new paediatric ward with a play area outside. ( the ward is situated on the 11th floor of a new building)

    I have just been informed that there will be 4 large pots area with appropriately 2080 litres of potting mixture within being placed in the outdoor area ( appropriately 2080 litres of potting mixture within)

    Is there is a NSW PD or other Ministry correspondence that states that we cannot have soil in an outdoor supervised area

    Thanks

    Vicki

    Vicki Denyer

    Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant
    Lismore Base Hospital

    Infection Prevention & Control is Everyone’s Business

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