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    Beckingham, Wendy
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    Dear Colleagues

    I am wondering does anyone have a policy in the way you care for patients with MRO’s in a acute versus subacute unit.

    In saying this a definition to cover sub acute has also been difficult to come by and am wondering if anyone can help this as well.

    Wendy Beckingham
    CNC Infection Control
    The Canberra Hospital
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    Prue Wright
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    Dear Wendy,

    We have only recently closed our medical ward, which I assume you would
    have defined as “sub-acute”. We have an acute surgical ward and post
    natal also. As post caesarian section patients are nursed on post
    natal, they need to be classified as surgical.

    When the medical ward was still open; patients with confirmed MROs were
    treated with full precautions; just as they are in the surgical ward. We
    could not risk HAIs in any of our patients, and are very aware of our
    higher risk surgical areas.

    So – in a nutshell – our policy for MRO management is across the board.

    Hope this is some help

    Regards

    Prue Wright

    Infection Control Coordinator
    Hurstville Private

    —–Original Message—–
    Behalf Of Beckingham, Wendy

    Dear Colleagues

    I am wondering does anyone have a policy in the way you care for
    patients with MRO’s in a acute versus subacute unit.

    In saying this a definition to cover sub acute has also been difficult
    to come by and am wondering if anyone can help this as well.

    Wendy Beckingham
    CNC Infection Control
    The Canberra Hospital
    pager 50390 or phone 43695

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    #68503
    Wishart, Michael
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    Hi Wendy

    In many ways I agree with Prue here, although I am not sure her medical
    ward would be considered sub-acute, as by definition they would have an
    acute illness (unless it was a convalescent medical ward or something).
    In my view, it all depends on where your sub-acute area is, and how it
    is staffed. We often have this discussion with rural and remote
    facilities that have attached residential care areas to their acute
    treatment facilities. What we normally advise is that if staff are
    shared commonly between areas, and patients at risk of actual infection
    (versus colonisation) may be managed by the same staff as handling
    patients in a sub-acute care during the same shift, then we would be
    concerned about potential for cross transmission.

    We treat our rehab unit in this way, as even though it is in a separate
    building it shares staff with acute wards, so they use the same
    precautions for MRO’s as the acute wards do.

    If a sub-acute or non-acute setting is stand alone and no staff sharing
    to acute occurs for the same shift, it is all about actual risk of
    infection for that patient group, and can often be managed without
    routine contact precautions for colonised patients.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    —–Original Message—–
    Behalf Of Prue Wright
    acute in caring for MRO’s

    Dear Wendy,

    We have only recently closed our medical ward, which I assume you would
    have defined as “sub-acute”. We have an acute surgical ward and post
    natal also. As post caesarian section patients are nursed on post
    natal, they need to be classified as surgical.

    When the medical ward was still open; patients with confirmed MROs were
    treated with full precautions; just as they are in the surgical ward. We
    could not risk HAIs in any of our patients, and are very aware of our
    higher risk surgical areas.

    So – in a nutshell – our policy for MRO management is across the board.

    Hope this is some help

    Regards

    Prue Wright

    Infection Control Coordinator
    Hurstville Private

    —–Original Message—–
    Behalf Of Beckingham, Wendy

    Dear Colleagues

    I am wondering does anyone have a policy in the way you care for
    patients with MRO’s in a acute versus subacute unit.

    In saying this a definition to cover sub acute has also been difficult
    to come by and am wondering if anyone can help this as well.

    Wendy Beckingham
    CNC Infection Control
    The Canberra Hospital
    pager 50390 or phone 43695

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