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Hi Everyone
In developing an HDU the staff would like to have a pan sanitiser installed. Has anyone else had experience with this?
Are there any development guidelines that refer to the requirements around pan sanitisers?
Are they supposed to be located in a separate room, for example? Do they produce aerosols so require a separate room?
The AusHFG do not seem to provide that kind of detail so your assistance would be welcome.
CheersLincoln Fowler
Infection Prevention Nurse ConsultantBairnsdale Regional Health Service
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Hi Lincoln,
Pan sanitisers are typically located in a dirty utility room –
https://www.healthfacilityguidelines.com.au/standard-components go to this
link and search for dirty utility and it will give you room layouts. Dirty
utility rooms should be at a negative pressure to the surrounding
environment and achieve 10 air changes per hour.The pan sanitiser should be specified to meet ISO15883.3.
I hope that helps.
Kind Regards
Terry McAuley
Sterilisation & Infection Prevention and Control Consultant
STEAM Consulting Pty Ltd ACN 604 439 698
E: terry@steamconsulting.com.au
W: http://www.steamconsulting.com.au
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Endeavour Hills
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Hi Everyone
In developing an HDU the staff would like to have a pan sanitiser installed.
Has anyone else had experience with this?Are there any development guidelines that refer to the requirements around
pan sanitisers?Are they supposed to be located in a separate room, for example? Do they
produce aerosols so require a separate room?The AusHFG do not seem to provide that kind of detail so your assistance
would be welcome.Cheers
Lincoln Fowler
Infection Prevention Nurse Consultant
Bairnsdale Regional Health Service
Think Green, read it from the screen.
Bairnsdale Regional Health Service acknowledges the Gunaikurnai people as
the traditional owners of the land on which the health service is located.We recognise and respect their cultural heritage, beliefs and relationship
with the lands. We pay our respects to elders both past and present and
thank them for their contribution to the health service.This communication is intended only to be read or used by the addressee.
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Hi Lincoln
We developed a template to review our machines (pan and utensil washers) which helped us
Feel free to use if you would like and add elements you find important.We looked at everything from ANZ4187 compliance with Validation testing / use of detergents/ how many items could be washed / consideration of cycle time and water usage (impact on environment)
Our SSD Manager helped with the review which helped us understand what was needed from a Standards point of view
Our Microbiologist reviewed the testing reports for the machines before final approval givenWhen designing our dirty utility rooms we looked at
1. Dirty and clean flows
2. Position of extraction fans in pan room to be above flush sink and near pan sanitiser to remove steam created by cycle
3. Ensuring no cupboards or racks above flush sink
4. Ensuring that there were no gaps under shelving (coved flooring)
Our sanitisers are within the dirty utility room
From my experience the flush sink would be more of a risk of aerosols. Happy to be corrected. Staff should be careful when loading bottles to protect from splash etc.It is only Within our new SSD we have complete physical separation of areas but this principle did not apply in pan rooms. However we made sure we had Dirty and clean flows
Good luck
You can contact us at SGH if you would like some additional guidance
Thanks
BelindaBelinda Boston
Infection Prevention and Control CNC | Nursing
St George Public Hospital
1st Floor James Laws House
Gray Street Kogarah NSW
Tel (02) 9113 4608 | Fax (02) 9113 1575 | Mob 0429 890 544 | belinda.boston@health.nsw.gov.au
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In developing an HDU the staff would like to have a pan sanitiser installed. Has anyone else had experience with this?
Are there any development guidelines that refer to the requirements around pan sanitisers?
Are they supposed to be located in a separate room, for example? Do they produce aerosols so require a separate room?
The AusHFG do not seem to provide that kind of detail so your assistance would be welcome.
CheersLincoln Fowler
Infection Prevention Nurse ConsultantBairnsdale Regional Health Service
http://www.brhs.com.auThink Green, read it from the screen.
Bairnsdale Regional Health Service acknowledges the Gunaikurnai people as the traditional owners of the land on which the health service is located.
We recognise and respect their cultural heritage, beliefs and relationship with the lands. We pay our respects to elders both past and present and thank them for their contribution to the health service.This communication is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. Information contained in this communication may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. The confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this communication in error, please destroy it and send a reply message to the author.
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Thank you everyone for your consideration and responses.
I’ll ask another question: Do the standards/codes state, imply, require that a “Flusher Disinfector” must not be in a patient area such as a high dependency unit and should only be in a dirty utility room?
I’m mindful that aerosols could be a potential problem although the risks around using open disposal areas with splashing is probably much higher.
I’d be interested to know of anyone who has direct experience of this type of installation.
CheersLincoln Fowler
Infection Prevention Nurse ConsultantBairnsdale Regional Health Service
http://www.brhs.com.auThink Green, read it from the screen.
Bairnsdale Regional Health Service acknowledges the Gunaikurnai people as the traditional owners of the land on which the health service is located.
We recognise and respect their cultural heritage, beliefs and relationship with the lands. We pay our respects to elders both past and present and thank them for their contribution to the health service.This communication is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. Information contained in this communication may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. The confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this communication in error, please destroy it and send a reply message to the author.
Hi Everyone
In developing an HDU the staff would like to have a pan sanitiser installed. Has anyone else had experience with this?
Are there any development guidelines that refer to the requirements around pan sanitisers?
Are they supposed to be located in a separate room, for example? Do they produce aerosols so require a separate room?
The AusHFG do not seem to provide that kind of detail so your assistance would be welcome.
CheersLincoln Fowler
Infection Prevention Nurse ConsultantBairnsdale Regional Health Service
http://www.brhs.com.auThink Green, read it from the screen.
Bairnsdale Regional Health Service acknowledges the Gunaikurnai people as the traditional owners of the land on which the health service is located.
We recognise and respect their cultural heritage, beliefs and relationship with the lands. We pay our respects to elders both past and present and thank them for their contribution to the health service.This communication is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. Information contained in this communication may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. The confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this communication in error, please destroy it and send a reply message to the author.
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Hi Lincoln,
Flusher disinfectors that are used for emptying, washing and disinfection of
human waste containers should be in a dedicated dirty utility room/area and
not located in a clinical patient care area such as a high dependence unit
(HDU).Regards
Glenys
Glenys Harrington
Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)
P.O. Box 6385
Melbourne
Australia, 3004
M: +61 404816434
Of Lincoln Fowler @BRHS
Thank you everyone for your consideration and responses.
I’ll ask another question: Do the standards/codes state, imply, require that
a “Flusher Disinfector” must not be in a patient area such as a high
dependency unit and should only be in a dirty utility room?I’m mindful that aerosols could be a potential problem although the risks
around using open disposal areas with splashing is probably much higher.I’d be interested to know of anyone who has direct experience of this type
of installation.Cheers
Lincoln Fowler
Infection Prevention Nurse Consultant
Bairnsdale Regional Health Service
Think Green, read it from the screen.
Bairnsdale Regional Health Service acknowledges the Gunaikurnai people as
the traditional owners of the land on which the health service is located.We recognise and respect their cultural heritage, beliefs and relationship
with the lands. We pay our respects to elders both past and present and
thank them for their contribution to the health service.This communication is intended only to be read or used by the addressee.
Information contained in this communication may be confidential information.
If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with,
distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and
prohibited. The confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived
or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this
communication in error, please destroy it and send a reply message to the
author.Of Lincoln Fowler @BRHS
Hi Everyone
In developing an HDU the staff would like to have a pan sanitiser installed.
Has anyone else had experience with this?Are there any development guidelines that refer to the requirements around
pan sanitisers?Are they supposed to be located in a separate room, for example? Do they
produce aerosols so require a separate room?The AusHFG do not seem to provide that kind of detail so your assistance
would be welcome.Cheers
Lincoln Fowler
Infection Prevention Nurse Consultant
Bairnsdale Regional Health Service
Think Green, read it from the screen.
Bairnsdale Regional Health Service acknowledges the Gunaikurnai people as
the traditional owners of the land on which the health service is located.We recognise and respect their cultural heritage, beliefs and relationship
with the lands. We pay our respects to elders both past and present and
thank them for their contribution to the health service.This communication is intended only to be read or used by the addressee.
Information contained in this communication may be confidential information.
If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with,
distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and
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