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    Jayne OConnor
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    Dear Brains Trust,
    Does anyone know of some robust research/evidence to back up, or not, the use of over shoes for visitors to operating theatre and for theatre staff wearing them out side of the theatre environment?
    Many thanks in advance.
    Jayne

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    Michael Wishart
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    Hi Jayne

    No robust evidence, just an old, old document from the UK full of common sense called ‘Behaviours and Rituals in the Operating Theatre’ (attached).

    Theatre footwear
    The floor surface of the operating theatre should be kept clean but the effect this has on infection rates remains uncertain. Studies of bacterial contamination of the operating theatre corridor floors indicate that a change of footwear should occur as far from the operating theatre as possible.74 Well-fitting footwear
    with impervious soles should be worn and regularly cleaned to remove splashes of blood and body fluid.
    All footwear should be cleaned after every use, and procedures should be in place to ensure that this is undertaken at the end of every session.
    Humphreys et al.75 illustrated that the use of plastic overshoes led to a significant increase in floor colony counts rather than a decrease. Carter
    76 also showed that hands became contaminated when overshoes were put on or removed.
    Recommendation: category 3
    Special footwear should be worn in the operating department and regularly cleaned. The practice of wearing plastic overshoes should cease.

    My personal thought is that provided you keep them visibly clean (no blood, no mud, etc), footwear worn in OT can be worn throughout the hospital and then worn back into OT. The way we state that in policy here is that footwear worn in OT must be cleaned after going outside the building, or outside worn shoes must either be cleaned or covered with an overshoe on entry to the operating suite.

    Evidence is great if you have it, but sometimes we need to consider common sense and the epidemiology of infections.

    Oh, and just a thought on those Gucci loafers the anaesthetist has on…. if you don’t want them splashed with body fluid, put some overshoes on! Nothing to do with protecting the patient, just to protect your $1000 Gucci’s.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Over shoes for use outside of operating theatres

    Dear Brains Trust,
    Does anyone know of some robust research/evidence to back up, or not, the use of over shoes for visitors to operating theatre and for theatre staff wearing them out side of the theatre environment?
    Many thanks in advance.
    Jayne

    Jayne O’Connor RN ,BSc.,Inf.Cont
    IPC Co-Ordinator
    Sydney Adventist Hospital | 185 Fox Valley Road, Wahroonga, NSW 2076

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    Jayne OConnor
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    Thanks Michael,
    was struggling with the evidence as there’s not much of it or its very old., I tend to agree with you too, as long as the shoes are not visibly soiled and are cleaned after being outside the OT then the wearing overshoe is a waste of time. Acorn standards advise to only wear them in theatre to protect (Gucci and other designer) shoes from splashes.

    From experience I also note hand hygiene is often not performed after removing the over shoes.

    Jayne O’Connor RN ,BSc.,Inf.Cont
    IPC Co-Ordinator
    Sydney Adventist Hospital | 185 Fox Valley Road, Wahroonga, NSW 2076

    p: +61 2 9487 9732 | f: +61 2 9473 8052 | m: +61 0406 752685 | e: jayne.oconnor@sah.org.au
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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Michael Wishart
    Sent: Tuesday, 5 June 2018 1:23 PM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: Over shoes for use outside of operating theatres

    Hi Jayne

    No robust evidence, just an old, old document from the UK full of common sense called ‘Behaviours and Rituals in the Operating Theatre’ (attached).

    Theatre footwear
    The floor surface of the operating theatre should be kept clean but the effect this has on infection rates remains uncertain. Studies of bacterial contamination of the operating theatre corridor floors indicate that a change of footwear should occur as far from the operating theatre as possible.74 Well-fitting footwear with impervious soles should be worn and regularly cleaned to remove splashes of blood and body fluid.
    All footwear should be cleaned after every use, and procedures should be in place to ensure that this is undertaken at the end of every session.
    Humphreys et al.75 illustrated that the use of plastic overshoes led to a significant increase in floor colony counts rather than a decrease. Carter
    76 also showed that hands became contaminated when overshoes were put on or removed.
    Recommendation: category 3
    Special footwear should be worn in the operating department and regularly cleaned. The practice of wearing plastic overshoes should cease.

    My personal thought is that provided you keep them visibly clean (no blood, no mud, etc), footwear worn in OT can be worn throughout the hospital and then worn back into OT. The way we state that in policy here is that footwear worn in OT must be cleaned after going outside the building, or outside worn shoes must either be cleaned or covered with an overshoe on entry to the operating suite.

    Evidence is great if you have it, but sometimes we need to consider common sense and the epidemiology of infections.

    Oh, and just a thought on those Gucci loafers the anaesthetist has on…. if you don’t want them splashed with body fluid, put some overshoes on! Nothing to do with protecting the patient, just to protect your $1000 Gucci’s.

    Cheers
    Michael

    Michael Wishart, CICP-E
    Infection Control Coordinator

    A627 Rode Road, Chermside QLD 4032
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    —–Original Message—–
    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Jayne OConnor
    Sent: Tuesday, 5 June 2018 12:38 PM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: [ACIPC_Infexion_Connexion] Over shoes for use outside of operating theatres

    Dear Brains Trust,
    Does anyone know of some robust research/evidence to back up, or not, the use of over shoes for visitors to operating theatre and for theatre staff wearing them out side of the theatre environment?
    Many thanks in advance.
    Jayne

    Jayne O’Connor RN ,BSc.,Inf.Cont
    IPC Co-Ordinator
    Sydney Adventist Hospital | 185 Fox Valley Road, Wahroonga, NSW 2076

    p: +61 2 9487 9732 | f: +61 2 9473 8052 | m: +61 0406 752685 | e: jayne.oconnor@sah.org.au
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