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Dear knowledge Bank,
This might sound like an odd question but one of our sites has just been had accreditation and they observed a cleaner mopping 4 bathrooms before they change mop heads and water. Bearing in mind they only mop the bathroom floor as the rest of the room is carpeted.!!! ( that’s another story). Our policy states to change after 3-4 rooms unless grossly soiled/contaminated.
Is there legislation ( I cannot find it in NSW Health or CEC guidelines)dictating how frequently mop heads and water are changed between patient rooms i.e. NON infectious patient rooms.
Common sense should prevail as changing for each room would not only be logistical nightmare but also have WH&S risks, time and cost constraints..
Happy to hear comments 🙂 Thank you in advance.
Jayne
Jayne O’Connor RN,BSc.Inf.Cont.
IPC Co-Ordinator
Sydney Adventist Hospital
185 Fox Valley Rd.,
Wahroonga 2076Tel DD: (02) 9487 9732
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Hi Jayne,
Glad you raised this. We are also currently attempting to find guidelines for changing water and have been unsuccessful. Any help will on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Mary
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Dear knowledge Bank,
This might sound like an odd question but one of our sites has just been had accreditation and they observed a cleaner mopping 4 bathrooms before they change mop heads and water. Bearing in mind they only mop the bathroom floor as the rest of the room is carpeted.!!! ( that’s another story). Our policy states to change after 3-4 rooms unless grossly soiled/contaminated.
Is there legislation ( I cannot find it in NSW Health or CEC guidelines)dictating how frequently mop heads and water are changed between patient rooms i.e. NON infectious patient rooms.
Common sense should prevail as changing for each room would not only be logistical nightmare but also have WH&S risks, time and cost constraints..
Happy to hear comments 🙂 Thank you in advance.
Jayne
Jayne O’Connor RN,BSc.Inf.Cont.
IPC Co-Ordinator
Sydney Adventist Hospital
185 Fox Valley Rd.,
Wahroonga 2076Tel DD: (02) 9487 9732
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Hi Jayne
I would also be very interested to hear some comments as we have had similar issues/queries raised here as well.
As you say common sense should prevail but any guidelines would be very useful.
Kind regards
MaryMary Willimann CICP-E| Manager Infection Control
St John of God Subiaco Hospital
T: (08) 9382 6871 | M: 0439 993 772 | F: (08) 9382 6785 | E: Mary.Willimann@sjog.org.au
12 Salvado Road Subiaco WA 6008 | PO Box 14, Subiaco WA 6904
http://sjog.org.au/subiaco | http://twitter.com/sjog_healthcare | LinkedIn | http://facebook.com/StJohnOfGodSubiacoHospitalWe acknowledge the Traditional Owners of Country throughout Australia and recognise their continuing connection to land, waters and community.
We pay our respect to them and their cultures and to Elders past and present.—–Original Message—–
Dear knowledge Bank,
This might sound like an odd question but one of our sites has just been had accreditation and they observed a cleaner mopping 4 bathrooms before they change mop heads and water. Bearing in mind they only mop the bathroom floor as the rest of the room is carpeted.!!! ( that’s another story). Our policy states to change after 3-4 rooms unless grossly soiled/contaminated.
Is there legislation ( I cannot find it in NSW Health or CEC guidelines)dictating how frequently mop heads and water are changed between patient rooms i.e. NON infectious patient rooms.
Common sense should prevail as changing for each room would not only be logistical nightmare but also have WH&S risks, time and cost constraints..
Happy to hear comments 🙂 Thank you in advance.
Jayne
Jayne O’Connor RN,BSc.Inf.Cont.
IPC Co-Ordinator
Sydney Adventist Hospital
185 Fox Valley Rd.,
Wahroonga 2076Tel DD: (02) 9487 9732
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Hi Mary i’d be happy to share if I discover anything.
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Reply To: ACIPC Infexion ConnexionHi Jayne
I would also be very interested to hear some comments as we have had similar issues/queries raised here as well.
As you say common sense should prevail but any guidelines would be very useful.
Kind regards
MaryMary Willimann CICP-E| Manager Infection Control
St John of God Subiaco Hospital
T: (08) 9382 6871 | M: 0439 993 772 | F: (08) 9382 6785 | E: Mary.Willimann@sjog.org.au
12 Salvado Road Subiaco WA 6008 | PO Box 14, Subiaco WA 6904
http://sjog.org.au/subiaco | http://twitter.com/sjog_healthcare | LinkedIn | http://facebook.com/StJohnOfGodSubiacoHospitalWe acknowledge the Traditional Owners of Country throughout Australia and recognise their continuing connection to land, waters and community.
We pay our respect to them and their cultures and to Elders past and present.—–Original Message—–
Dear knowledge Bank,
This might sound like an odd question but one of our sites has just been had accreditation and they observed a cleaner mopping 4 bathrooms before they change mop heads and water. Bearing in mind they only mop the bathroom floor as the rest of the room is carpeted.!!! ( that’s another story). Our policy states to change after 3-4 rooms unless grossly soiled/contaminated.
Is there legislation ( I cannot find it in NSW Health or CEC guidelines)dictating how frequently mop heads and water are changed between patient rooms i.e. NON infectious patient rooms.
Common sense should prevail as changing for each room would not only be logistical nightmare but also have WH&S risks, time and cost constraints..
Happy to hear comments 🙂 Thank you in advance.
Jayne
Jayne O’Connor RN,BSc.Inf.Cont.
IPC Co-Ordinator
Sydney Adventist Hospital
185 Fox Valley Rd.,
Wahroonga 2076Tel DD: (02) 9487 9732
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Dear Jayne
A common sense approach would seem like the obvious way to go. That said we now more so than perhaps at any other time understand a lot more of the significant contribution environmental surfaces play in HAI risk. There was an article specifically on the risk of floors published I think within the last 2 months in AJIC. Try and get it if you have trouble let me know.
Also FYI and others who may not understand the detail legislation is typically never written for minute detail like this in infection control. Legislation broadly affects infection control through OCH&S requirements that involve IC. The problem with legislation is that there must always be a penalty which is enforceable and that usually requires ongoing monitoring – think policing. Infection control breaches are not typically of the nature of other criminal offences.
In my working life I have seen legislation specific to infection control only in NSW (in response to early 1990s pt-to-pt HIV transmission) and that was through a series of Regulations. QLD has some legislation for IC as well I think. Obviously there are also respective pieces of legislation for licencing of skin pentration/ tattooing etc. More typically IC recommendations come as Guidelines which provide overarching principles and are enforceable in that in a court of law an individual or organisation deemed to have breached them would have to show just cause as to why they deviated from the standard of the “common man”.
Also in Australia we know that compliance with national Guidelines and Standards is enshrined within the Standard 3 accreditation framework and that penalties ie. restrictions in practice can be enforced if there is deviation from those requirements. In the private sector, hospital licences to operate can be revoked by the licensing authority if breaches occur. Usually it is the state/ territory govt who are the licensing authority.
There are also professional requirements that registered HCWs have under their respective professional regulations (that is where the NSW IC requirements sit)
So in short, for a mop or any other specific IC recommendation it is unlikely that there will be “law” but good sense and use of evidence should prevail as always. I would also personally add keeping an eye on evolving technologies ie. waterless surface disinfection/ decontamination is a good idea in this instance. Others will disagree with me on that as they have in the past.
I hope this helps you and other understand how all the different directives create and contribute to our somewhat complicated Australian IC framework.
Other legal requirements relate to how products/ medications/ solutions etc get registered with the TGA.
Good luck with your mop and bucket.
Cheers
CathCathryn Murphy MPH PhD CIC
Chief Executive Officer & Creative Director
Infection Control Plus Pty Ltd
PO Box 3079
Burleigh Town 4220
OLD, AustraliaE: Cath@infectioncontrolplus.com.au
M: +61 428 154154
W: infectioncontrolplus.com.au—–Original Message—–
Hi Jayne
I would also be very interested to hear some comments as we have had similar issues/queries raised here as well.
As you say common sense should prevail but any guidelines would be very useful.
Kind regards
MaryMary Willimann CICP-E| Manager Infection Control St John of God Subiaco Hospital
T: (08) 9382 6871 | M: 0439 993 772 | F: (08) 9382 6785 | E: Mary.Willimann@sjog.org.au
12 Salvado Road Subiaco WA 6008 | PO Box 14, Subiaco WA 6904 http://sjog.org.au/subiaco | http://twitter.com/sjog_healthcare | LinkedIn | http://facebook.com/StJohnOfGodSubiacoHospitalWe acknowledge the Traditional Owners of Country throughout Australia and recognise their continuing connection to land, waters and community.
We pay our respect to them and their cultures and to Elders past and present.—–Original Message—–
Dear knowledge Bank,
This might sound like an odd question but one of our sites has just been had accreditation and they observed a cleaner mopping 4 bathrooms before they change mop heads and water. Bearing in mind they only mop the bathroom floor as the rest of the room is carpeted.!!! ( that’s another story). Our policy states to change after 3-4 rooms unless grossly soiled/contaminated.
Is there legislation ( I cannot find it in NSW Health or CEC guidelines)dictating how frequently mop heads and water are changed between patient rooms i.e. NON infectious patient rooms.
Common sense should prevail as changing for each room would not only be logistical nightmare but also have WH&S risks, time and cost constraints..
Happy to hear comments 🙂 Thank you in advance.
Jayne
Jayne O’Connor RN,BSc.Inf.Cont.
IPC Co-Ordinator
Sydney Adventist Hospital
185 Fox Valley Rd.,
Wahroonga 2076Tel DD: (02) 9487 9732
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