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    Has anybody had any experience with installation of hand dryers (warm
    blowing air) in clinical areas?
    We are building a new facility, the question has been raised can we
    install hand dryers instead of paper towel in clinical areas at the hand
    washing sinks?
    Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

    Lyn

    Infection Prevention and Control Manager

    Echuca Regional Health
    17 Francis Street
    Echuca 3564

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    #70074
    Maree Sommerville
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    Dear Lyn,

    Our neonatal unit considered hand dryers as an option to paper towels a
    couple of years ago.

    The 2 issues that we raised were uncontrolled air dispersal and the
    noise factor (and they are so noisy…. Imagine hearing the hum of
    dryers all day….)

    To choose a dryer in a clinical setting would very much depend on that
    setting.

    In our neonatal nursery, the hand basins are within the ward, we have
    carpeted floors, and the dryers potentially could disperse hand bacteria
    and, depending on design, could disperse bacteria lurking in the carpet.

    My organisation adopted a paper recycling process for the paper towels.

    Hand dryers are relegated to public areas and not clinical ones.

    * The NSW hand hygiene policy directive states ‘no hand dryers’.

    http://www0.health.nsw.gov.au/policies/pd/2010/pdf/PD2010_058.pdf

    * A study funded by Dyson (hand dryer company) supports their
    claims that their product is superior to other hand dryers however they
    are noisy.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3017747/

    * HHA have a ‘sample hand hygiene procedure’ that includes the
    possibility of using a hand dryer

    http://www.hha.org.au/UserFiles/file/Manual/Generic%20Hand%20Hygiene%20G
    uidelines_final%20_4_.pdf

    I wish you the best in making a final decision.

    Maree Sommerville

    Infection Control Coordinator

    Mercy Hospital for Women

    ________________________________

    Behalf Of Lyn A. Golden

    Has anybody had any experience with installation of hand dryers (warm
    blowing air) in clinical areas?
    We are building a new facility, the question has been raised can we
    install hand dryers instead of paper towel in clinical areas at the hand
    washing sinks?

    Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

    Lyn

    Infection Prevention and Control Manager

    Echuca Regional Health
    17 Francis Street
    Echuca 3564

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    #70076
    Michael Wishart
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    Hi Lyn

    Apart from the possible air disruption / bacterial dispersion issues, there has been some discussion in the past about the speed and efficiency of electric hand driers in clinical areas. You would need to ensure you were not setting up your staff for longer drying times (or even worse, less adequate drying because it takes too long), and also increased skin care issues for staff due to excessive drying of the skin. If you do decide to support electric hand dryers in clinical areas, I would really encourage you to propose a solid trial phase and review the impact on both hand hygiene practices (are staff discouraged from hand hygiene with soap and water because of the dryers?) and also impact on staff skin integrity.

    Good luck with whichever decision is made.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Maree Sommerville
    Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013 9:33 AM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Re: Mechanical Hand dryers at clinical staff sinks

    Dear Lyn,
    Our neonatal unit considered hand dryers as an option to paper towels a couple of years ago.
    The 2 issues that we raised were uncontrolled air dispersal and the noise factor (and they are so noisy. Imagine hearing the hum of dryers all day.)
    To choose a dryer in a clinical setting would very much depend on that setting.
    In our neonatal nursery, the hand basins are within the ward, we have carpeted floors, and the dryers potentially could disperse hand bacteria and, depending on design, could disperse bacteria lurking in the carpet.
    My organisation adopted a paper recycling process for the paper towels.
    Hand dryers are relegated to public areas and not clinical ones.

    The NSW hand hygiene policy directive states no hand dryers.
    http://www0.health.nsw.gov.au/policies/pd/2010/pdf/PD2010_058.pdf

    A study funded by Dyson (hand dryer company) supports their claims that their product is superior to other hand dryers however they are noisy.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3017747/

    HHA have a sample hand hygiene procedure that includes the possibility of using a hand dryer
    http://www.hha.org.au/UserFiles/file/Manual/Generic%20Hand%20Hygiene%20Guidelines_final%20_4_.pdf

    I wish you the best in making a final decision.

    Maree Sommerville
    Infection Control Coordinator
    Mercy Hospital for Women
    ________________________________
    From: ACIPC Infexion Connexion [mailto:AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU] On Behalf Of Lyn A. Golden
    Sent: Wednesday, 12 June 2013 4:34 PM
    To: AICALIST@AICALIST.ORG.AU
    Subject: Mechanical Hand dryers at clinical staff sinks

    Has anybody had any experience with installation of hand dryers (warm blowing air) in clinical areas?
    We are building a new facility, the question has been raised can we install hand dryers instead of paper towel in clinical areas at the hand washing sinks?

    Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

    Lyn

    Infection Prevention and Control Manager

    Echuca Regional Health
    17 Francis Street
    Echuca 3564

    Phone: 54855340
    Fax: 54855390
    E-mail: lgolden@erh.org.au

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    #70077
    RUSSO, Philip
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    Hi Lyn

    We have recently released the latest version of the Hand Hygiene
    Australia Manual.

    http://www.hha.org.au/UserFiles/file/Manual/HHAManual_2010-11-23.pdf

    In Section 3.2 we state:

    Both soap and ABHR products are necessary for the introduction of a HH
    program;

    a soap and water wash is required if hands are visibly soiled, and
    either product

    can be used if hands are visibly clean. As wet hands can more readily
    acquire and spread microorganisms, the proper drying of hands is an
    integral part of routine

    hand hygiene (1).

    Paper towels, cloth towels, and air dryers are commonly used to dry
    washed hands. There is currently conflicting evidence as to the
    efficacy of each method for removing bacteria from washed hands (23-25).
    Ideally, hands should be dried using either individual paper towels, or
    hand driers which can dry hands as effectively and as quickly as it can
    be done with paper towels (26). Hand driers used in healthcare should be
    proven not to be associated with the aerosolisation of pathogens (1),
    for example using hospital grade HEPA filtration to minimise airborne
    microorganisms (27).

    (References are listed in the manual)

    I would also support Maries comments regarding noise (day and night),
    and also add that regular cleaning and maintenance of these machines
    must also be considered.

    Hope this helps your decision.

    Kind regards
    Phil Russo, M.Clin.Epid
    Hand Hygiene Australia
    National Project Manager
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    5555 Heidelberg, VIC, Australia 3084

    Behalf Of Lyn A. Golden

    Has anybody had any experience with installation of hand dryers (warm
    blowing air) in clinical areas?
    We are building a new facility, the question has been raised can we
    install hand dryers instead of paper towel in clinical areas at the hand
    washing sinks?

    Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

    Lyn

    Infection Prevention and Control Manager

    Echuca Regional Health
    17 Francis Street
    Echuca 3564

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    #70086
    Glenys Harrington
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    Hi Lyn,

    My understanding is that they are too noisy for clinical areas particularly
    at night.

    Regards

    Glenys

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    Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)

    PO Box 5202

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    Australia

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    Of Lyn A. Golden
    sinks

    Has anybody had any experience with installation of hand dryers (warm
    blowing air) in clinical areas?
    We are building a new facility, the question has been raised can we install
    hand dryers instead of paper towel in clinical areas at the hand washing
    sinks?

    Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

    Lyn

    Infection Prevention and Control Manager

    Echuca Regional Health
    17 Francis Street
    Echuca 3564

    Helping Everyone To Be And Stay Healthy

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    #70087
    Judy Forrest
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    From my experience, many facilities I have been to actually turn off the hand dryers at night because they are too noisy. The question has to then be asked ….how do they dry their hands? On their uniforms?

    Kind Regards
    Judy Forrest
    RN,CIC (Syd Hosp), Grad Cert. (Communicable Diseases), FCN, CPM FAAPM
    Managing Director
    [High Res – Screen]
    Bug Control (Aust) Pty Ltd
    Infection Control Advisory Service
    PO Box 406 GORDON NSW 2072 Australia

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    Hi Lyn,

    My understanding is that they are too noisy for clinical areas particularly at night.

    Regards

    Glenys

    Glenys Harrington
    Consultant
    Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)

    PO Box 5202
    Middle Park
    Victoria, 3206
    Australia
    H: +61 3 96902216
    M: +61 404 816 434
    infexion@ozemail.com.au
    ABN 47533508426

    Has anybody had any experience with installation of hand dryers (warm blowing air) in clinical areas?
    We are building a new facility, the question has been raised can we install hand dryers instead of paper towel in clinical areas at the hand washing sinks?

    Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

    Lyn

    Infection Prevention and Control Manager

    Echuca Regional Health
    17 Francis Street
    Echuca 3564

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    #70091
    Gill Wheaton
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    Gill Wheaton

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    Our experience here was that nurses in the clinical setting stated they
    do not have time to stand and air dry their hands and we have re-
    installed paper dispensers.
    Regards

    Gill Wheaton
    Peri-operative Services Manager
    St John of God Hospital
    136 Botanic Road (PO Box 316)
    Warrnambool 3280

    >>> Judy Forrest 20/06/13 8:51 AM >>>

    From my experience, many facilities I have been to actually turn off
    the hand dryers at night because they are too noisy. The question has
    to then be asked .how do they dry their hands? On their uniforms?

    Kind Regards
    Judy Forrest
    RN,CIC (Syd Hosp), Grad Cert. (Communicable Diseases), FCN, CPM FAAPM
    Managing Director

    Bug Control (Aust) Pty Ltd
    Infection Control Advisory Service
    PO Box 406 GORDON NSW 2072 Australia
    Bug Control New Zealand Ltd
    Infection Control Advisory Service
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    Behalf Of Glenys Harrington

    Hi Lyn,
    My understanding is that they are too noisy for clinical areas
    particularly at night.
    Regards
    Glenys
    Glenys Harrington
    Consultant
    Infection Control Consultancy (ICC)
    PO Box 5202
    Middle Park
    Victoria, 3206
    Australia
    H: +61 3 96902216
    M: +61 404 816 434
    infexion@ozemail.com.au
    ABN 47533508426

    Behalf Of Lyn A. Golden
    staff sinks

    Has anybody had any experience with installation of hand dryers (warm
    blowing air) in clinical areas?
    We are building a new facility, the question has been raised can we
    install hand dryers instead of paper towel in clinical areas at the hand
    washing sinks?
    Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
    Lyn
    Infection Prevention and Control Manager
    Echuca Regional Health
    17 Francis Street
    Echuca 3564
    Helping Everyone To Be And Stay Healthy
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    Hi Lyn,
    I’ve recently reviewed the proposed use of “ultra-rapid” hand dryers for my hospital for clinical areas (my comments are thus specific to this area and do not cover its use in general public areas such as public toilets, etc).
    The use of HEPA filter filtration for the new hand dryers has to be seen in the proper context…
    If the machine (“ultra-rapid” discussed here and not the conventional hand dryers) produces high velocity filtered air within a small confined area, that air needs to have an avenue to be exhausted out otherwise it gets channeled back at the user’s face (this based on the current “hands facing downwards” design)… thus the sides to the machine are left exposed to allow air (with water droplets from the user’s hands) to be channeled away from the user.
    This would result in potential contamination of the immediate area surrounding the hand dryer (floor, wall, etc.) as water from the user’s hands gets aerosolised or propelled off.
    The HEPA filtration in the dryer filters the propelled air but not the air that gets exhausted post contact with the user’s hands to the surrounding environment (so if you get users with extremely bad hand washing techniques i.e. no soap used post contact with gastro patient… this will then be an issue in a clinical environment).
    Some studies such as:
    Comparative evaluation of the hygienic efficacy of an ultra-rapid hand dryer vs conventional warm air hand dryers. (English) By: Snelling AM; Saville T; Stevens D; Beggs CB, Journal Of Applied Microbiology [J Appl Microbiol], ISSN: 1365-2672, 2011 Jan; Vol. 110 (1), pp. 19-26; PMID: 20887403
    speak favorably regarding the new “ultra-rapid” hand dryers (kindly note that the study was funded by Dyson Limited, Malmesbury, UK.).
    A comparative study of different hand drying methods: paper towel, warm air dryer, jet air dryer (2009). By: Redway K & Fawdar S. School of Biosciences, University of Westminster, London.

    compared paper towels vs conventional warm air dryers vs the newer “ultra rapid” hand dryers and found paper towels to be the superior option (also note that this study was sponsored by the European Tissue Symposium (ETS) Brussels).
    The Mayo Clinic did an extensive review of current evidence in 2012:
    The hygienic efficacy of different hand-drying methods: a review of the evidence. (English) By: Huang C; Ma W; Stack S, Mayo Clinic Proceedings. Mayo Clinic [Mayo Clin Proc], ISSN: 1942-5546, 2012 Aug; Vol. 87 (8), pp. 791-8; PMID: 22656243
    and is a great read as you explore the various options available.
    Hope that helps and all the best with your hospital’s final decision to the matter.
    Kind regards,
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    >>> Glenys Harrington 19/06/2013 6:06 PM >>>

    Hi Lyn,
    My understanding is that they are too noisy for clinical areas particularly at night.
    Regards
    Glenys
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    Has anybody had any experience with installation of hand dryers (warm blowing air) in clinical areas?
    We are building a new facility, the question has been raised can we install hand dryers instead of paper towel in clinical areas at the hand washing sinks?
    Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
    Lyn
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    17 Francis Street
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