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Hi Everyone,
I have a construction question for any information if you can help please? In a brand new Operating Theatre Suite the architects or builders decided to put 5 manholes in the ceiling of every operating room. The building has just been handed over but a few weeks before during one of our visits I saw one of these manholes opened and noticed that it didn’t have any seals so when closed its won’t be airtight. I voiced my concerns about this and the response I got was “the ceiling /manholes are sealed to the soffit therefore services penetrated into the ceiling are not required to be sealed.”
Should I be concerned about having these manholes in the ORs in the first place? And even if these were sealed, anyone from engineering can simply open into the roof space at any time, disturb whatever is brewing up in the ceiling cavity and close it as if nothing has happened. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.Kind Regards,
Richard
Richard Bartolo
Manager Infection Prevention
Western Health
Gordon Street, Footscray VIC 3011
Ph. 03 8345 6113
Mob. 0438 560 441
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Hi Richard,
We had a similar problem at my previous place of employment. A clean room had been fitted out with an access panel for the HVAC system and we continuously failed our particles counts which led to delays in utilising the facility.
Eventually we had the ceiling access panel sealed and after a thorough clean hey presto, the particle counts came down to acceptable levels. Although guarantees can be made that the hatches are sealed I believe that changes in air pressure (that so often occur in clean rooms under positive pressure) may well force open these hatches just enough to let particles i.e. dust, to get through.
Of course, there is also the concern you raised of personnel accessing these hatches without your knowledge. If sealed then any access should be obvious to see afterwards as the seal around the hatch would be damaged in some way.
Those are my thoughts on the issue and I hope they may help you in some way. Cheers.
Kind regards,
Sean.Sean Lansley BSc. Med.
MASM ABSANZ | Infection Control, Logistics and Contracts Manager
sean@ecojemss.com.au | 0401 398 966
ECO JEMSS PTY LTD | ABN: 93 169 468 464
(08) 9304 4361
https://www.ecojemss.com.auHi Everyone,
I have a construction question for any information if you can help please? In a brand new Operating Theatre Suite the architects or builders decided to put 5 manholes in the ceiling of every operating room. The building has just been handed over but a few weeks before during one of our visits I saw one of these manholes opened and noticed that it didnt have any seals so when closed its wont be airtight. I voiced my concerns about this and the response I got was the ceiling /manholes are sealed to the soffit therefore services penetrated into the ceiling are not required to be sealed.
Should I be concerned about having these manholes in the ORs in the first place? And even if these were sealed, anyone from engineering can simply open into the roof space at any time, disturb whatever is brewing up in the ceiling cavity and close it as if nothing has happened. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.Kind Regards,
Richard
Richard Bartolo
Manager Infection Prevention
Western Health
Gordon Street, Footscray VIC 3011
Ph. 03 8345 6113
Mob. 0438 560 441
Email. richard.bartolo@wh.org.au
Web. http://www.westernhealth.org.auNotice:
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Hi Sean,
Thank you for sharing your experience and thoughts. I will let you know of any outcome.Kind Regards,
Richard
Richard Bartolo
Manager Infection Prevention
Western Health
Gordon Street, Footscray VIC 3011
Ph. 03 8345 6113
Mob. 0438 560 441
Email. richard.bartolo@wh.org.au
Web. http://www.westernhealth.org.au[cid:image003.jpg@01D4EB04.7B220290]
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Subject: Re: Man holes in the Operating Suites ceilingsHi Richard,
We had a similar problem at my previous place of employment. A clean room had been fitted out with an access panel for the HVAC system and we continuously failed our particles counts which led to delays in utilising the facility.
Eventually we had the ceiling access panel sealed and after a thorough clean hey presto, the particle counts came down to acceptable levels. Although guarantees can be made that the hatches are sealed I believe that changes in air pressure (that so often occur in clean rooms under positive pressure) may well force open these hatches just enough to let particles i.e. dust, to get through.
Of course, there is also the concern you raised of personnel accessing these hatches without your knowledge. If sealed then any access should be obvious to see afterwards as the seal around the hatch would be damaged in some way.
Those are my thoughts on the issue and I hope they may help you in some way. Cheers.
Kind regards,
Sean.[cid:image002.png@01D4801C.7E24D650]
Sean Lansley BSc. Med.
MASM ABSANZ | Infection Control, Logistics and Contracts Manager
sean@ecojemss.com.au | 0401 398 966
ECO JEMSS PTY LTD | ABN: 93 169 468 464
(08) 9304 4361
https://www.ecojemss.com.auFrom: Bartolo, Richard
Sent: Thursday, 4 April 2019 7:17 AM
To: ACIPCLIST@ACIPC.ORG.AU
Subject: Man holes in the Operating Suites ceilingsHi Everyone,
I have a construction question for any information if you can help please? In a brand new Operating Theatre Suite the architects or builders decided to put 5 manholes in the ceiling of every operating room. The building has just been handed over but a few weeks before during one of our visits I saw one of these manholes opened and noticed that it didnt have any seals so when closed its wont be airtight. I voiced my concerns about this and the response I got was the ceiling /manholes are sealed to the soffit therefore services penetrated into the ceiling are not required to be sealed.
Should I be concerned about having these manholes in the ORs in the first place? And even if these were sealed, anyone from engineering can simply open into the roof space at any time, disturb whatever is brewing up in the ceiling cavity and close it as if nothing has happened. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.Kind Regards,
Richard
Richard Bartolo
Manager Infection Prevention
Western Health
Gordon Street, Footscray VIC 3011
Ph. 03 8345 6113
Mob. 0438 560 441
Email. richard.bartolo@wh.org.au
Web. http://www.westernhealth.org.au[cid:image002.jpg@01D4EACC.EFE27250]
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