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Hi all,
We are currently in the planning phase of the new Monash Children’s Hospital in Victoria. The issue of macerators versus pan flushes has raised some debate. From an infection control perspective we favour macerators. Engineering has evaluated the maintenance issues to be equal.
There appears to be a trend toward complete maceration systems in new builds, however I am receiving some comments that there are concerns with some Water authorities anticipating future environmental impacts.Can anyone who has completed a recent build with partial or complete maceration systems in place please advise me on any significant issues around their choice.
Thanks,
AnitaAnita Lovegrove
Snr Infection Control Consultant
Monash Medical Centre
Monash HealthFax:95946992
email: anita.lovegrove@monashhealth.org.au
MonashHealth
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Hi all,
We looked at the Macerators some time ago and were actually asked to speak with Sydney water who had concerns around the waste product going into the water system. As it stands Sydney water has been reluctant with the introduction of Macerators on the impact to the system and any implementation must have approval via Sydney water. We also had a lot of issues with storage of the consumables. The other interesting issue was around for example the pan holders that still required washing in between patients anyway and so we would’ve needed to implement a macerator alongside a washer machine. I think if all those issues could be addressed than the macerator may have some merit. The system was considered not viable for a hospital of our size 760-900beds. Contacting Sydney water may give you some more insight.
Cheers
KathyKathy Dempsey
Clinical Nurse Consultant / CoManager
Infection Prevention & Control
PO Box 533, Wentworthville NSW 2145
Tel (02) 9845 7501 | Fax (02) 9845 9148 | Mob 0423 000 169 | kathy.dempsey@health.nsw.gov.au
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Hi all,
We are currently in the planning phase of the new Monash Children’s Hospital in Victoria. The issue of macerators versus pan flushes has raised some debate. From an infection control perspective we favour macerators. Engineering has evaluated the maintenance issues to be equal.
There appears to be a trend toward complete maceration systems in new builds, however I am receiving some comments that there are concerns with some Water authorities anticipating future environmental impacts.Can anyone who has completed a recent build with partial or complete maceration systems in place please advise me on any significant issues around their choice.
Thanks,
AnitaAnita Lovegrove
Snr Infection Control Consultant
Monash Medical Centre
Monash HealthFax:95946992
email: anita.lovegrove@monashhealth.org.au
MonashHealth
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Dear Anita
Not sure if you have seen this review from Canada. Its 2009 but may be of interest/ assistance?
Regards
Lindy
Lindy Ryan
Infection Prevention & Control Clinical Nurse Consultant | Nepean Hospital, NBM LHD
Infection control Service, PO Box 63 Penrith, 2751, NSW
Tel (02) 4734 2228 | Fax (02) 4734 2517 | lindy.ryan@health.nsw.gov.au
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Hi all,
We are currently in the planning phase of the new Monash Children’s Hospital in Victoria. The issue of macerators versus pan flushes has raised some debate. From an infection control perspective we favour macerators. Engineering has evaluated the maintenance issues to be equal.
There appears to be a trend toward complete maceration systems in new builds, however I am receiving some comments that there are concerns with some Water authorities anticipating future environmental impacts.Can anyone who has completed a recent build with partial or complete maceration systems in place please advise me on any significant issues around their choice.
Thanks,
AnitaAnita Lovegrove
Snr Infection Control Consultant
Monash Medical Centre
Monash HealthFax:95946992
email: anita.lovegrove@monashhealth.org.au
MonashHealth
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Hello All,
At Bendigo Health we have recommended Macerators for the New Bendigo Hospital(due for completion 2016). We have used macerators for some years across the existing facility in acute, subacute, psychiatry and aged care sites with few issues. Bed pan supports which are used with these systems are required to be sanitised in a utensil washer between patients therefore each unit with a macerator will have a utensil washer. We are ensuring that there is adequate storage for consumables and also considering dedicating bed pan supports (as required) to beds so that they can be reused for single patient use for the duration of the patients stay, this requires a bracket on the bed to hold the bed pan support, the support would then be sanitised on terminal clean/discharge of the patient. We did review the Canadian paper which has previously been referred to on Infexion connexion and found it very useful when presenting this and making the decision.
Regards,
JaneJane Hellsten – CICP | Manager – Infection Prevention Control & Infectious Diseases Service
Loddon Mallee Infection Control Resource Centre | Medical Services – Acute Campus
Bendigo Health
PO Box 126 Bendigo Victoria 3552
p. 03 5454 8417 | f. 03 5454 8419 | m. 0428 630 004e. jhellsten@bendigohealth.org.au
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Hi all,
We are currently in the planning phase of the new Monash Children’s Hospital in Victoria. The issue of macerators versus pan flushes has raised some debate. From an infection control perspective we favour macerators. Engineering has evaluated the maintenance issues to be equal.
There appears to be a trend toward complete maceration systems in new builds, however I am receiving some comments that there are concerns with some Water authorities anticipating future environmental impacts.Can anyone who has completed a recent build with partial or complete maceration systems in place please advise me on any significant issues around their choice.
Thanks,
AnitaAnita Lovegrove
Snr Infection Control Consultant
Monash Medical Centre
Monash HealthFax:95946992
email: anita.lovegrove@monashhealth.org.au
MonashHealth
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