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  • #68248
    Wishart, Michael
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    Wishart, Michael

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    In our day oncology unit, to help with cannulation of patients with
    difficult to access peripheral veins, they are using a tub of warm water
    to soak a patient’s hand or arm in for 15-20 minutes prior to
    cannulation to make the vein more accessible. Whilst the limb is dried
    and appropriate skin antisepsis is performed prior to cannulation, there
    are some other concerns with this practice (more related to staff and
    patient safety than infection control) and thus we are looking at
    alternatives. Apart from warm towels and hot packs (which do not hold
    heat long enough, according to the staff of the unit), does anyone know
    of any other methods limbs can be warmed safely prior to cannulation?

    Thanks
    Michael

    Michael Wishart | GPH – Infection Control Coordinator

    GPH – Quality & Safety Unit (Infection Control) | Greenslopes Private
    Hospital
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    #68249
    John Ferguson
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    John Ferguson

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    Dear Colleagues

    Might AICA discuss the following proposal?

    We all particularly struggle to get medical staff to learn about correct hand hygiene practices. They either know it all or profess not to have the time etc. Furthermore in order to enforce the standard, one needs to ensure that the person is aware of the expectations etc.

    My proposal is that AICA (together with ASID- I have suggested this to them) makes a formal request to the new National Registration and Accreditation scheme (Health Workforce) to require completion of a specified online hand hygiene elearning program and assessment PRIOR to issue of registration renewal for all health professionals.

    Furthermore, we should require them to include safe practice of hand hygiene in the relevant codes of conduct for each cadre of health staff.

    Best wishes
    John

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    #68254
    Chard, Colette
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    Hi Michael,

    In OT we utilize the warming towels/ blankets from the warming cabinets.
    I know some of our patients aren’t at high risk of poor veins as in on
    oncology but it maybe food for thought

    Thanks

    Colette Chard
    Infection Control Coordinator
    Clinical Nurse Day Surgery
    North West Private Hospital
    137 Flockton St.,
    Everton Park
    07 3246 3145 / 3246 3183(Tuesdays)
    email:chardc@ramsayhealth.com.au

    —–Original Message—–
    Behalf Of Wishart, Michael

    In our day oncology unit, to help with cannulation of patients with
    difficult to access peripheral veins, they are using a tub of warm water
    to soak a patient’s hand or arm in for 15-20 minutes prior to
    cannulation to make the vein more accessible. Whilst the limb is dried
    and appropriate skin antisepsis is performed prior to cannulation, there
    are some other concerns with this practice (more related to staff and
    patient safety than infection control) and thus we are looking at
    alternatives. Apart from warm towels and hot packs (which do not hold
    heat long enough, according to the staff of the unit), does anyone know
    of any other methods limbs can be warmed safely prior to cannulation?

    Thanks
    Michael

    Michael Wishart | GPH – Infection Control Coordinator

    GPH – Quality & Safety Unit (Infection Control) | Greenslopes Private
    Hospital
    Newdegate Street, Greenslopes QLD 4120
    t: 07 3394 7919 | f: 07 3394 7985
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    #68255
    Fiona de Sousa
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    Fiona de Sousa

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    Hi Michael,

    We have two day chemotherapy / infusion units and both use hot packs for
    warming veins.

    Fiona De Sousa
    Infection Prevention & Control Coordinator,
    Syndey Adventist Hospital
    02 9487 9732

    —–Original Message—–
    Behalf Of Chard, Colette

    Hi Michael,

    In OT we utilize the warming towels/ blankets from the warming cabinets.
    I know some of our patients aren’t at high risk of poor veins as in on
    oncology but it maybe food for thought

    Thanks

    Colette Chard
    Infection Control Coordinator
    Clinical Nurse Day Surgery
    North West Private Hospital
    137 Flockton St.,
    Everton Park

    07 3246 3145 / 3246 3183(Tuesdays)
    email:chardc@ramsayhealth.com.au

    —–Original Message—–
    Behalf Of Wishart, Michael

    In our day oncology unit, to help with cannulation of patients with
    difficult to access peripheral veins, they are using a tub of warm water
    to soak a patient’s hand or arm in for 15-20 minutes prior to
    cannulation to make the vein more accessible. Whilst the limb is dried
    and appropriate skin antisepsis is performed prior to cannulation, there
    are some other concerns with this practice (more related to staff and
    patient safety than infection control) and thus we are looking at
    alternatives. Apart from warm towels and hot packs (which do not hold
    heat long enough, according to the staff of the unit), does anyone know
    of any other methods limbs can be warmed safely prior to cannulation?

    Thanks
    Michael

    Michael Wishart | GPH – Infection Control Coordinator

    GPH – Quality & Safety Unit (Infection Control) | Greenslopes Private
    Hospital
    Newdegate Street, Greenslopes QLD 4120
    t: 07 3394 7919 | f: 07 3394 7985
    e: WishartM@ramsayhealth.com.au | w: http://www.ramsayhealth.com.au

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    #68261
    Antony Shannon
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    Antony Shannon

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    Hello Michael, I agree with Coletteas that was the methodology we used when I worked in Oncology in Aberdeen Royal Infirmary. However very few of our patients would use peripheral cannulaes as they would all have a Hickman or other Central Lines which mitigates this issue

    Antony Shannon
    Clinical Nurse Specialist- Infection Prevention & Control
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    #68280
    John Ferguson
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    John Ferguson

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    Dear Colleagues

    HICSIG is facilitating the development of a guideline for the infection prevention & control of MRSA in Australian residential aged care facilities, as it has been noted that this issue is not specifically addressed under any Australian national guideline and that there is need for a well-considered evidence-based risk-appropriate approach.

    A small group with representatives from AICA, ASID and other stakeholders commenced work in late 2009. We would really like to expand the group and would welcome all volunteers, especially from Victoria and the Northern Territory.

    The Terms of Reference for the group are at http://www.asid.net.au/hicsigwiki/index.php?titleTerms_of_Reference_-_RCF_MRSA_working_group.

    We meet by teleconference once a month week for one hour and some additional work will be required- currently this involves evaluation of existing guidelines using the AGREE instrument.

    Please let Michelle Taylor (hicsig1@gmail.com) know if you are interested in joining the group!

    Thanks
    john

    Dr John Ferguson
    Director, Infection Prevention and Control Unit
    Microbiologist and Infectious Diseases Physician
    HUNTER NEW ENGLAND HEALTH
    Locked Bag 1, Newcastle, NSW 2310, Australia
    tel 61 2 49214422, fax 61 2 49214440
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