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13/09/2017 at 9:55 am #74018
Good morning,
Just wondering if any facilities have instant chilled and boiling water systems for patients and staff to access for drinking water and hot tea/coffee in there lounges/kitchens.
If you do, how long have they been installed?
Do you undertake any legionella and bacterial micro testing on the cold and hot water from the system including the sink tap water that its connected to?
If you would be prepared to share what system you use and your results with us please contact me off line directly by email at marija.juraja@sa.gov.auKind Regards
Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager -CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
The Royal Adelaide Hospital| Central Adelaide Local Health Network
8E Rm256 Port Road, ADELAIDE 5000
The Queen Elizabeth Hospital | Central Adelaide Local Health Network
Level 8 Tower Building | 28 Woodville Road, WOODVILLE SOUTH 5011
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13/09/2017 at 10:37 am #74019Morning,
We now only have hot & ambient water available to staff due to issues with our previous water coolers, however we are currently trialling some new water coolers that use UV lights I can’t remember the brand but I can find out for you if the trial is successful then we will install some additional units throughout the hospital & where there had been the ‘Zippy’ taps with hot & chilled water we have removed the chilled water component and installed a ambient filtered water tap instead. If these water coolers are installed then they will be put on a routine testing schedule as we do our Ice and bottled water that we provide patients with.
With kind regards,
Lynette CribbInfection Control Coordinator
Direct 07 3834 4328 | mobile 0427141223 | Fax 0738344599
SAWMH.ICC@uchealth.com.au | standrewshospital.com.au
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Remember to protect your patients, family and yourself by getting the Influenza vaccinationGood morning,
Just wondering if any facilities have instant chilled and boiling water systems for patients and staff to access for drinking water and hot tea/coffee in there lounges/kitchens.
If you do, how long have they been installed?
Do you undertake any legionella and bacterial micro testing on the cold and hot water from the system including the sink tap water that its connected to?
If you would be prepared to share what system you use and your results with us please contact me off line directly by email at marija.juraja@sa.gov.auKind Regards
Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager -CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
The Royal Adelaide Hospital| Central Adelaide Local Health Network
8E Rm256 Port Road, ADELAIDE 5000
The Queen Elizabeth Hospital | Central Adelaide Local Health Network
Level 8 Tower Building | 28 Woodville Road, WOODVILLE SOUTH 5011
t: +61 8 7074 2810 (RAH) 8222 7588 (TQEH)| f: +61 8 7074 6228 (RAH) +61 8 8222 6461 (TQEH) | m: 0466 379 821|DX: 465432 (TQEH) |e:marija.juraja@sa.gov.au |web: IPCU Intranet Site and Resources
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13/09/2017 at 11:06 am #74020We use plumbed in water coolers now. We recently isolated Legionella incidentally from a water cooler that was not plumbed in in our ICU as part of a Pseudomonas issue in which we were testing multiple water outlets – no Pseudomonas was found. The cooler has a charcoal pre-filter which attracts Legionella growth our microbiologist advised.
Our hospital undertakes a rigorous legionella testing regime from the hot water supply but only tests water and shower heads – not hand washing or drinking outlets.Cheers
Ruth
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We now only have hot & ambient water available to staff due to issues with our previous water coolers, however we are currently trialling some new water coolers that use UV lights I can’t remember the brand but I can find out for you if the trial is successful then we will install some additional units throughout the hospital & where there had been the ‘Zippy’ taps with hot & chilled water we have removed the chilled water component and installed a ambient filtered water tap instead. If these water coolers are installed then they will be put on a routine testing schedule as we do our Ice and bottled water that we provide patients with.
With kind regards,
Lynette CribbInfection Control Coordinator
Direct 07 3834 4328 | mobile 0427141223 | Fax 0738344599
SAWMH.ICC@uchealth.com.au | standrewshospital.com.au
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Remember to protect your patients, family and yourself by getting the Influenza vaccinationGood morning,
Just wondering if any facilities have instant chilled and boiling water systems for patients and staff to access for drinking water and hot tea/coffee in there lounges/kitchens.
If you do, how long have they been installed?
Do you undertake any legionella and bacterial micro testing on the cold and hot water from the system including the sink tap water that its connected to?
If you would be prepared to share what system you use and your results with us please contact me off line directly by email at marija.juraja@sa.gov.auKind Regards
Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager -CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
The Royal Adelaide Hospital| Central Adelaide Local Health Network
8E Rm256 Port Road, ADELAIDE 5000
The Queen Elizabeth Hospital | Central Adelaide Local Health Network
Level 8 Tower Building | 28 Woodville Road, WOODVILLE SOUTH 5011
t: +61 8 7074 2810 (RAH) 8222 7588 (TQEH)| f: +61 8 7074 6228 (RAH) +61 8 8222 6461 (TQEH) | m: 0466 379 821|DX: 465432 (TQEH) |e:marija.juraja@sa.gov.au |web: IPCU Intranet Site and Resources
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13/09/2017 at 11:14 am #74021Morning Marija,
We use Zip taps hot and cold for some patient areas and some staff areas, they are not tested as per our legionella policy, but are treated and tested monthly as it comes from our potable water supply, the water is also filtered , hot water is supplied at boiling point at point of use. Makes and models I would need to look up as we use a number of different one, happy to forward to you once I know.
Kind regards
Jayne O’Connor RN,BSc.Inf.Cont.
IPC Co-Ordinator
Sydney Adventist Hospital
185 Fox Valley Rd.,
Wahroonga 2076Tel DD: (02) 9487 9732
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Good morning,
Just wondering if any facilities have instant chilled and boiling water systems for patients and staff to access for drinking water and hot tea/coffee in there lounges/kitchens.
If you do, how long have they been installed?
Do you undertake any legionella and bacterial micro testing on the cold and hot water from the system including the sink tap water that its connected to?
If you would be prepared to share what system you use and your results with us please contact me off line directly by email at marija.juraja@sa.gov.auKind Regards
Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager -CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
The Royal Adelaide Hospital| Central Adelaide Local Health Network
8E Rm256 Port Road, ADELAIDE 5000
The Queen Elizabeth Hospital | Central Adelaide Local Health Network
Level 8 Tower Building | 28 Woodville Road, WOODVILLE SOUTH 5011
t: +61 8 7074 2810 (RAH) 8222 7588 (TQEH)| f: +61 8 7074 6228 (RAH) +61 8 8222 6461 (TQEH) | m: 0466 379 821|DX: 465432 (TQEH) |e:marija.juraja@sa.gov.au |web: IPCU Intranet Site and Resources
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18/09/2017 at 4:42 pm #74023Good Afternoon,
I would always include the filtered water when putting together a testing programme for any healthcare building. The carbon filters do (in my experience) tend to have a build-up of bacteria in them, and they also get rid of residual chlorine in the water supply that passes through them. If they are present, then they should be maintained as per the manufacturer’s instructions, and filters changed in line with this. The source tap water should also be tested at some point, as only then do you know if the filter is the issue, or if it is an issue with supply water. If they are needed or not should be part of the Legionella/potable water risk assessment for the facility.
I’m going to be speaking at the national conference on Legionella, on the Tuesday just before lunch.
Hopefully I can cover this, but, if anyone else has any burning questions that they would like to know the answer to, please get in touch and I will see how much I can include to make my presentation as useful as possible for everyone.
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Just wondering if any facilities have instant chilled and boiling water systems for patients and staff to access for drinking water and hot tea/coffee in there lounges/kitchens.
If you do, how long have they been installed?
Do you undertake any legionella and bacterial micro testing on the cold and hot water from the system including the sink tap water that its connected to?
If you would be prepared to share what system you use and your results with us please contact me off line directly by email at marija.juraja@sa.gov.auKind Regards
Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager -CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
The Royal Adelaide Hospital| Central Adelaide Local Health Network
8E Rm256 Port Road, ADELAIDE 5000
The Queen Elizabeth Hospital | Central Adelaide Local Health Network
Level 8 Tower Building | 28 Woodville Road, WOODVILLE SOUTH 5011
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19/09/2017 at 10:21 am #74024Hi Sarah,
We recently had our accreditation all good with our water testing however they did ask how we tested our ice machines, frequency etc., not the ice for consumption but that used for equipment.
We hadn’t previously tested the ice machine but will do now following their observation. Any information you have in regards to ice water testing would be greatly appreciated.
Look forward to hearing your talk in November.
Kind regards
Jayne O’Connor RN,BSc.Inf.Cont.
IPC Co-Ordinator
Sydney Adventist Hospital
185 Fox Valley Rd.,
Wahroonga 2076Tel DD: (02) 9487 9732
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Good Afternoon,
I would always include the filtered water when putting together a testing programme for any healthcare building. The carbon filters do (in my experience) tend to have a build-up of bacteria in them, and they also get rid of residual chlorine in the water supply that passes through them. If they are present, then they should be maintained as per the manufacturer’s instructions, and filters changed in line with this. The source tap water should also be tested at some point, as only then do you know if the filter is the issue, or if it is an issue with supply water. If they are needed or not should be part of the Legionella/potable water risk assessment for the facility.
I’m going to be speaking at the national conference on Legionella, on the Tuesday just before lunch.
Hopefully I can cover this, but, if anyone else has any burning questions that they would like to know the answer to, please get in touch and I will see how much I can include to make my presentation as useful as possible for everyone.
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Just wondering if any facilities have instant chilled and boiling water systems for patients and staff to access for drinking water and hot tea/coffee in there lounges/kitchens.
If you do, how long have they been installed?
Do you undertake any legionella and bacterial micro testing on the cold and hot water from the system including the sink tap water that its connected to?
If you would be prepared to share what system you use and your results with us please contact me off line directly by email at marija.juraja@sa.gov.auKind Regards
Marija Juraja |Nurse Unit Manager -CALHN Infection Prevention & Control Unit|
Division of Acute Medicine (RN, GCNS Inf Ctrl, CICP-E)
The Royal Adelaide Hospital| Central Adelaide Local Health Network
8E Rm256 Port Road, ADELAIDE 5000
The Queen Elizabeth Hospital | Central Adelaide Local Health Network
Level 8 Tower Building | 28 Woodville Road, WOODVILLE SOUTH 5011
t: +61 8 7074 2810 (RAH) 8222 7588 (TQEH)| f: +61 8 7074 6228 (RAH) +61 8 8222 6461 (TQEH) | m: 0466 379 821|DX: 465432 (TQEH) |e:marija.juraja@sa.gov.au |web: IPCU Intranet Site and Resources
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