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  • #76187
    Kylie Robb
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    Niche Dental

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    Hi everyone,

    I’m looking for a policy or information that can provide guidance on how a dental practitioner/dental assistant could manage with a larger beard?
    My instant thought is that a mask would struggle to fit over it, and with the likelihood of frequent and routine generation of aerosols – the beard would have to go. Are there hairnets or other resources that could work to support the health care worker to keep the beard, yet still manage the infection control risk?

    What if the beard is worn for cultural reasons? Does culture trump infection control?

    Thanks a lot for considering this, I would value any insights.

    Kylie

    Kylie Robb
    MHSM (Clinical Leadership), CICP-P
    Practice Services Manager
    Australian Dental Association NSW Branch
    Level 1, 1 Atchison Street, St Leonards, New South Wales 2065
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    #76192
    Tricker, Karen J
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    HI,
    You can get beard nets, which we use.

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    Karen Tricker
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    Western Health
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    Hi everyone,

    I’m looking for a policy or information that can provide guidance on how a dental practitioner/dental assistant could manage with a larger beard?
    My instant thought is that a mask would struggle to fit over it, and with the likelihood of frequent and routine generation of aerosols – the beard would have to go. Are there hairnets or other resources that could work to support the health care worker to keep the beard, yet still manage the infection control risk?

    What if the beard is worn for cultural reasons? Does culture trump infection control?

    Thanks a lot for considering this, I would value any insights.

    Kylie

    Kylie Robb
    MHSM (Clinical Leadership), CICP-P
    Practice Services Manager
    Australian Dental Association NSW Branch
    Level 1, 1 Atchison Street, St Leonards, New South Wales 2065
    t: 02 8436 9936 m: 0438 628 664
    E: kylie.robb@adansw.com.au | W: http://www.adansw.com.au

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    #76194
    Joanne Cocks – SVHM
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    Hi Kylie

    There are things called beard nets! We have a staff member in theatre who wears one (his beard is for cultural reasons)
    They are often worn in the food (preparation) areas

    Good luck

    jo
    Joanne Cocks | Infection Control Coordinator
    St Vincent’s Melbourne | PO Box 2900 | 41 Victoria Parade, Fitzroy VIC 3065
    t: +61 3 9231 4069 | f: +61 3 9231 4068 http://www.svha.org.au

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    Hi everyone,

    I’m looking for a policy or information that can provide guidance on how a dental practitioner/dental assistant could manage with a larger beard?
    My instant thought is that a mask would struggle to fit over it, and with the likelihood of frequent and routine generation of aerosols – the beard would have to go. Are there hairnets or other resources that could work to support the health care worker to keep the beard, yet still manage the infection control risk?

    What if the beard is worn for cultural reasons? Does culture trump infection control?

    Thanks a lot for considering this, I would value any insights.

    Kylie

    Kylie Robb
    MHSM (Clinical Leadership), CICP-P
    Practice Services Manager
    Australian Dental Association NSW Branch
    Level 1, 1 Atchison Street, St Leonards, New South Wales 2065
    t: 02 8436 9936 m: 0438 628 664
    E: kylie.robb@adansw.com.au | W: http://www.adansw.com.au

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    #76195
    Emma Trippe
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    Hi All,
    Not to confuse matters – but is the beard net worn in theatres ( if person is scrubbed) for all types of beards or just beards not covered by mask ect?
    Thanks Emma

    Emma Trippe
    Infection Control Consultant
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    Hi Kylie

    There are things called beard nets! We have a staff member in theatre who wears one (his beard is for cultural reasons)
    They are often worn in the food (preparation) areas

    Good luck

    jo
    Joanne Cocks | Infection Control Coordinator
    St Vincent’s Melbourne | PO Box 2900 | 41 Victoria Parade, Fitzroy VIC 3065
    t: +61 3 9231 4069 | f: +61 3 9231 4068 http://www.svha.org.au

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    Hi everyone,

    I’m looking for a policy or information that can provide guidance on how a dental practitioner/dental assistant could manage with a larger beard?
    My instant thought is that a mask would struggle to fit over it, and with the likelihood of frequent and routine generation of aerosols – the beard would have to go. Are there hairnets or other resources that could work to support the health care worker to keep the beard, yet still manage the infection control risk?

    What if the beard is worn for cultural reasons? Does culture trump infection control?

    Thanks a lot for considering this, I would value any insights.

    Kylie

    Kylie Robb
    MHSM (Clinical Leadership), CICP-P
    Practice Services Manager
    Australian Dental Association NSW Branch
    Level 1, 1 Atchison Street, St Leonards, New South Wales 2065
    t: 02 8436 9936 m: 0438 628 664
    E: kylie.robb@adansw.com.au | W: http://www.adansw.com.au

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    #76199
    Michelle Lewis
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    Good morning Kylie,

    We have this issue and are going to be using the following bead cover under mask. Link attached

    https://www.livingstone.com.au/Product/id/DISPOBC0500BNT/LIV-DISP-BEARD-COVER-DOUBLE-LOOP-LTX-FREE-16GSM-BLUE-500-CTN/

    Kind Regards

    Michelle Lewis
    Dental Clinic Assistant Infection Control
    UWA Dental School/Oral Health Centre of WA
    M512, 17 Monash Avenue, Nedlands WA 6009

    T: +61 8 6457 7637 E: michelle.lewis@uwa.edu.au

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    Hi everyone,

    I’m looking for a policy or information that can provide guidance on how a dental practitioner/dental assistant could manage with a larger beard?
    My instant thought is that a mask would struggle to fit over it, and with the likelihood of frequent and routine generation of aerosols – the beard would have to go. Are there hairnets or other resources that could work to support the health care worker to keep the beard, yet still manage the infection control risk?

    What if the beard is worn for cultural reasons? Does culture trump infection control?

    Thanks a lot for considering this, I would value any insights.

    Kylie

    Kylie Robb
    MHSM (Clinical Leadership), CICP-P
    Practice Services Manager
    Australian Dental Association NSW Branch
    Level 1, 1 Atchison Street, St Leonards, New South Wales 2065
    t: 02 8436 9936 m: 0438 628 664
    E: kylie.robb@adansw.com.au | W: http://www.adansw.com.au

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    #76202
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    Hi Kylie,

    The CDC has a great blog post around mask fit and aerosol inhalation risks.

    https://blogs.cdc.gov/niosh-science-blog/2017/11/02/noshave/

    Kind Regards
    Terry McAuley
    Director
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    PO BOX 2249, Greenvale, VIC Australia 3059

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    Hi everyone,
    I was considering the need to wear a mask to prevent the inhalation of aerosols generated while conducting dental treatment (with a handpiece/ultrasonic). I would imagine a hairnet wouldn’t solve this issue – or maybe there’s a net/mask resource around that does both?
    It’s more to do with the aerosol inhalation issue rather than containing flyaway hairs.
    Thanks Kylie

    Kylie Robb
    MHSM (Clinical Leadership), CICP-P
    Practice Services Manager
    Australian Dental Association NSW Branch
    Level 1, 1 Atchison Street, St Leonards, New South Wales 2065
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    Hi All,
    Not to confuse matters – but is the beard net worn in theatres ( if person is scrubbed) for all types of beards or just beards not covered by mask ect?
    Thanks Emma

    Emma Trippe
    Infection Control Consultant
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    Calvary Riverina Hospital
    Hardy Avenue Wagga Wagga NSW 2650
    P: 02 6932 1628
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    Hi Kylie

    There are things called beard nets! We have a staff member in theatre who wears one (his beard is for cultural reasons)
    They are often worn in the food (preparation) areas

    Good luck

    jo
    Joanne Cocks | Infection Control Coordinator
    St Vincent’s Melbourne | PO Box 2900 | 41 Victoria Parade, Fitzroy VIC 3065
    t: +61 3 9231 4069 | f: +61 3 9231 4068 http://www.svha.org.au

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    Hi everyone,

    I’m looking for a policy or information that can provide guidance on how a dental practitioner/dental assistant could manage with a larger beard?
    My instant thought is that a mask would struggle to fit over it, and with the likelihood of frequent and routine generation of aerosols – the beard would have to go. Are there hairnets or other resources that could work to support the health care worker to keep the beard, yet still manage the infection control risk?

    What if the beard is worn for cultural reasons? Does culture trump infection control?

    Thanks a lot for considering this, I would value any insights.

    Kylie

    Kylie Robb
    MHSM (Clinical Leadership), CICP-P
    Practice Services Manager
    Australian Dental Association NSW Branch
    Level 1, 1 Atchison Street, St Leonards, New South Wales 2065
    t: 02 8436 9936 m: 0438 628 664
    E: kylie.robb@adansw.com.au | W: http://www.adansw.com.au

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